Division IV Region 14

• BRF

  

  Classyposter58;494701 wrote: Also they could run through the region the way Genoa did 2 years ago, not blowouts but double digit wins in each game.

  
  See, this is the thing you gotta get off.... This regular season scoring differential.... When you get to the play-offs,,,, It.s a WHOLE new ball game. Scoring differential doesn't matter.
• Classyposter58

  

  I don't know where you're going with this? I'm talking about Ottawa Glandorf this year?
• BRF

  

  I'm going with it this way..........don't go by scorimg differential during the regular season to make your judgments.
• Classyposter58

  

  BRF;494827 wrote:I'm going with it this way..........don't go by scorimg differential during the regular season to make your judgments.

  
  Thanks? I will go by what happened in the regular season though to draw conclusions and honestly OG not only beat Kenton but held them to just 20 points. Now Kenton went into that game averaging 58 PPG against Van Wert, Shawnee and Coldwater where they put up a lowly 50. Kenton may very well be the team to come out of Region 16 and OG beat them. OG right now is the favorite to win
• 5knots

  

  Classyposter58;494701 wrote:I also respect the SW part of the state too and they just beat a Kenton team that I really believed as the best in D4. Ottawa Glandorf and Kenton have a tremendous chance of rematching in the state title in my opinion. Also they could run through the region the way Genoa did 2 years ago, not blowouts but double digit wins in each game. I see Ottawa Glandorf doing something similar

  
  This is the kind of stuff that got us all ticked off about the Genoa posters last year. How can you possible make a statement like that after 4 games of a season. Have you seen all the teams in the region,,,no/ have you scouted all the teams in the region...no. I will give you that OG should be a very good football team this year based on their returning players....but you cannot possible have any idea how they will fare in the region? EC is flying high, Genoa tough again again, Orrville returned a ton of kids, I mean...come on... really. How can you make that call?
• Classyposter58

  

  5knots;494847 wrote:This is the kind of stuff that got us all ticked off about the Genoa posters last year. How can you possible make a statement like that after 4 games of a season. Have you seen all the teams in the region,,,no/ have you scouted all the teams in the region...no. I will give you that OG should be a very good football team this year based on their returning players....but you cannot possible have any idea how they will fare in the region? EC is flying high, Genoa tough again again, Orrville returned a ton of kids, I mean...come on... really. How can you make that call?

  
  I can make that call because I have critical thinking skills. I mean going by your logic Orrville and the rest of the Ohio's Crappiest Conference will probably make the playoffs and lose by 30 in the first game. It's only been four games so how do I know if your conference and opponents aren't just a bunch of hot air? See what I just did? Made the same argument u just made
• BRF

  

  5knots: I am just about done with banging my head into the wall on some of these absurd posts. i.e.....this team beat that team by 20 in week 2, so they are going to go far. Pah! At least us Riders know better. Again......your regular season win differentials mean NOTHING. (And I just stopped my typing fingers from going off some more!). Ha ha!
  
  BUT, the previous poster makes fun of OUR conference? That is rich beyond belief!
• Classyposter58

  

  BRF;494934 wrote:5knots' I am just about done woth banging my head into the wall on some of these absurd posts. i.e.....this team beat that team by 20 in week 2, so they are going to go far. Pah! At least us Riders know better. Again......your regular season win differentials mean NOTHING. (And I just stopped my typing fingers from going off some more!). Ha ha!

  
  So beating a Coldwater team who's playing this season in the memory of one of the greatest coaches in Ohio by 16 in the season opener means nothing huh? I hope Ottawa Glandorf shows you whats up like they did last year
• BRF

  

  Classyposter58;494946 wrote:So beating a Coldwater team who's playing this season in the memory of one of the greatest coaches in Ohio by 16 in the season opener means nothing huh? I hope Ottawa Glandorf shows you whats up like they did last year

  Go to bed and then during your morning study hall, think about the absurdity that you just posted. Then, take the risk of having your cell taken from you while you are trying to reply! Ha ha!
• Classyposter58

  

  BRF;494963 wrote:Go to bed and then during your morning study hall, think about the absurdity that you just posted. Then, take the risk of having your cell taken from you while you are trying to reply! Ha ha!

  
  Hey f***er I'm not in high school. Ha I mean I guess I'll say you guys beating Lexington means nothing. Ottawa Glandorf beat a great team...what is so difficult to understand about that
• BRF

  

  Classyposter58;494972 wrote:Hey f***er I'm not in high school. Ha I mean I guess I'll say you guys beating Lexington means nothing.

  
  Oops! Guess I struck a nerve. What our win over Lex means is points to get to the dance floor. That's all that matters.....whether you win by 1, or 20, or 50.
• 5knots

  

  The difference Classy...the big big difference between us, is that I don't make uneducated predictions you bozo. You show me a post where any Orrville Huddler said anything about the Riders "Running thru the region". I'll save you the time...there's NONE. We understand there is a lot of football to be played yet....and I do hope we meet OG again. It would be another classic High School game.
• OQB

  

  Classyposter58;494887 wrote:I can make that call because I have critical thinking skills. I mean going by your logic Orrville and the rest of the Ohio's Crappiest Conference will probably make the playoffs and lose by 30 in the first game. It's only been four games so how do I know if your conference and opponents aren't just a bunch of hot air? See what I just did? Made the same argument u just made

  Let us compare the conferences shall we.....
  
  
  The Ohio Cardinal Conference is comprised of
  Ashland Div. II
  Clear Fork Div. IV
  Lexington Div. II
  Mansfield Madison Div. II
  Mansfield Senior was Div I, now the past two years Div. II
  Orrville Div. IV
  West Holmes Div. III
  Wooster was Div. I, now the past two years Div. II
  
  5 division II schools, 1 division III school, 2 division IV schools (from 2003-2006 which was when the conference officially formed, Wooster and Senior were division I, and Clear Fork did not join until 2004)
  
  The Suburbal Lakes League is comprised of:
  Eastwood Div. IV
  Elmwood Div. V
  Genoa Div. IV
  Gibsonburg Div. V
  Lake Div. IV
  Lakota Div. V
  Otsego Div. IV
  Woodmore Div. V
  
  4 division IV schools, 4 division V schools
  
  I went back to good old Joe Eitel to get some data. The farthest I could go back was 2003, since that is when the OCC was formed (minus CF).
  
  Since 2003, the OCC has accomplished:
  Record: 298-281
  Playoff Appearances: 16
  Playoff Record: 12-16
  5 Regional Finals Appearances
  1 State Semi-Final Appearance
  
  Of the 16 playoff losses, 7 have come to the eventual state champion!!!
  Ashland has lost to;
  Avon Lake 15-0 lost 14-3 in 2003
  Piqua 13-2 lost 27-0 in 2006
  Anderson 13-2 lost 35-20 in 2008
  
  Mansfield Madison has lost to;
  Toledo Central Catholic 14-1 lost 31-29 in 2005
  
  Lexington has lost to;
  Sylvania Southview 15-0 lost 38-24 in 2008
  
  Clear Fork has lost to;
  Coldwater 15-0 (upset Mooney) lost 45-0 in 2005
  
  Orrville has lost to;
  Cardinal Mooney 14-0 lost 50-21 in 2006
  
  Since 2003, the SLL has accomplished:
  Record: 266-296
  Playoff Appearances: 14
  Playoff record: 11-14
  3 Regional Final Appearances
  1 State Semi-Final Appearance
  
  Of those 14 losses, 2 have come to eventual state champions.
  Elmwood lost to;
  Patrick Henry 15-0 lost 34-31 in 2005
  
  Genoa Area lost to;
  Kettering Alter 13-2 lost 42-34 in 2008
  
  
  
  
  Which league are you calling crappy now???
  
  Ps....Have you ever thought about changing your username to PainInTheclASS58??
• Ghmothwdwhso

  OrrvilleQB08;495029 wrote:Let's us compare the conferences shall we.....
  
  
  The Ohio Cardinal Conference is comprised of
  Ashland Div. II
  Clear Fork Div. IV
  Lexington Div. II
  Mansfield Madison Div. II
  Mansfield Senior was Div I, now the past two years Div. II
  Orrville Div. IV
  West Holmes Div. III
  Wooster was Div. I, now the past two years Div. II
  
  5 division II schools, 1 division III school, 2 division IV schools (from 2003-2006 which was when the conference officially formed, Wooster and Senior were division I, and Clear Fork did not join until 2004)
  
  The Suburbal Lakes League is comprised of:
  Eastwood Div. IV
  Elmwood Div. V
  Genoa Div. IV
  Gibsonburg Div. V
  Lake Div. IV
  Northwood Div. V
  Otsego Div. IV
  Woodmore Div. V
  
  4 division IV schools, 4 division V schools
  
  I went back to good old Joe Eitel to get some data. The farthest I could go back was 2003, since that is when the OCC was formed (minus CF).
  
  Since 2003, the OCC has accomplished:
  Record: 298-281
  Playoff Appearances: 16
  Playoff Record: 12-16
  5 Regional Finals Appearances
  1 State Semi-Final Appearance
  
  Since 2003, the SLL has accomplished:
  Record: 266-296
  Playoff Appearances: 14
  Playoff record: 11-14
  3 Regional Final Appearances
  1 State Semi-Final Appearance
  
  
  
  
  Which league are you calling crappy now???
  
  Ps....Have you ever thought about changing your username to PainInTheclASS58??

  
  You don't even have the proper teams in the SLL. Do some research and come back later.......
• Classyposter58

  

  Ok let me clear this up.... I have been talking about Ottawa Glandorf and their schedule. Never once have I referenced Genoa yet you all are talking about the SLL. You all need to comprehend my statements
• Classyposter58

  

  Do you all understand why I said the Ohio Crappy Conference? See I guess I overestimated the intelligence of people in Orrville. Anyways I said Ottawa Glandorf looks like the team to beat as they have looked great all year including a huge win in a tough game against Kenton. Then BRF said I can't make the statement that Ottawa Glandorf looks like the elite team because they beat Kenton and I have not scouted them and there has only been four games. Hopefully you all are with me still. Then I said that well if that's how we're gonna EVALUATE things then I mean how can we come to the assumption that the OCC is really a good conference? No s*** it's a good conference loaded with a lot of good playoff teams. Kenton has been performing at a high level including a big win over Coldwater. I do not think you Orrville people understand how good Matt Mauk is...honestly prolly the best QB in Ohio
  
  Reasons that Ottawa Glandorf appears to be THE favorite from the first 4 games:
  -Great defense that just shut down the best offense in D4...is lead by 8 senior starters
  -They totally control the tempo of the game and that's what the great teams do
  -Kenton's QB is a great leader and field general and they messed him with their defensive schemes. I mean if they confused him what could they do to every QB in this region
  
  I have done my research and paid attention to what's going on. Ha the worst part about it is I'm not even talking about my Comets. Really read my posts before you comment because you all actually look ignorant. Ok go ahead say something about the fact you beat Genoa by 1 or how Greg did something bad last year, or that clip on Dufendock that you all pride yourselves on. Come on I'm waiting
• OQB

  

  If you would read what I qouted you about...."The Ohio's Crappiest Conference", and you being from Genoa who is in the SLL I wanted you to see which league was the "Crappy" one.
• bwcomet89

  Hmm. Well I think Triway is a darkhorse in this region, as well as (Insert SBC team here) Mainly because (Insert SBC team here) Has a rough road ahead because that conference is tougher than usual with Clyde(D3), Edison, Huron, and Port Clinton all possible champs. Not to mention Oak Harbor is playing well. They will definately be ready for any hardship a team in Region 14 may give them. Perosnally, that SBC team will be Huron, but I've seen crazier things happen- out of that conference even. I emphasize the imortance of "Darkhorse" because Ottawa Glandorf was that imo last season, you could argue Genoa was the year before, and Marion Pleasant wasn't exactly the region favorite in 07'.
• OQB

  

  Sorry, I mixed up Lakota and Northwood, who have both left the conference....I wonder why?
• Classyposter58

  

  OrrvilleQB08;495059 wrote:Sorry, I mixed up Lakota and Northwood, who have both left the conference....I wonder why?

  
  Read my last post
• OQB

  

  Classy,
  What kind of team is Kenton?? They PASS THE BALL EVERY PLAY, and when they do decide to run it, it is just a QB run. That is not an offense that will get you very far. Sure it has worked for some teams in the past, but usually those state championship teams can do both run AND pass.... and do BOTH extremely well. Also, how good is Kenton's defense?? They are giving up an average of 25 points a game. How far is that going to get them in the playoffs? Plus they have only played 1 team with a winning record....and lost. Is Matt Mauk good....yes absolutely. Is he the entire team.....Yes. You take him away or out of the game and have NO DOWN LINEMAN as your defensive scheme (which is what O-G did) you are going to win! Who has O-G played? The combined record of those schools is 3-13!!! Yes they have only given up 8 points a game, but look who they are playing. They barely squeeked out a win against the only team with a winning record. I do think O-G though is the favorite right now in this region, with EC being 2nd.
  
  Oh and Matt Mauk is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like his brother Ben, who I have seen 3 times in the playoffs!
  
  
  Can we put to rest LAST YEARS game between us... Orrville is way over that game, Genoa fans stop bringing it up and MOVE ON PLEASE! It will save all this BS that we have to keep harping with each other about.
• karen lotz

  

  OrrvilleQB08;495059 wrote:Sorry, I mixed up Lakota and Northwood, who have both left the conference....I wonder why?

  
  
  To be honest, neither Lakota nor Northwood are in the SLL. They both left because they couldn't compete in not only football, but in all sports across the board. I hope you weren't insinuating they left so they could join a more competitive league.
• OQB

  

  Karen, but from 03-09 Lakota was in the league... that is why I had them on the list. I did not include this year. On the original list I looked up, it had them both, then when I posted on here, I forgot that Northwood left in 2000, and Lakota left last year.
• karen lotz

  

  Fair enough. Either way they both left because they weren't competitive.
• OQB

  

  Ok, I got that for the 2nd time now.