posted by ptown_trojans_1

Federal forces were not really used to patrol cities. We have state and local police for that, and only in extreme cases like cities burning should we even entertain the deployment of those forces. 

Is Portland not burning? Would they not burn down the Federal courthouse if the Federal Police weren't there? Also, to your point earlier, they tried to get that moron mayor to help and he said no. AND, they do have their badge number and who they work for on their uniform, just not there last name. It's not some secret police gestapo like you are pretending. Now if you meant Portland is acceptable and Chicago isn't, then I kind of get what you are saying. It's insane that those in leadership would rather lay down for these violent loser clowns than actually keep law and order.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, I mean look at these commies. Come on guys....

Their own leaders admit to being Marxist and their website lists Marxist demands that they want across the country.

You can say “come on guys” but they don’t deny nor hide it.

posted by iclfan2
Is Portland not burning? Would they not burn down the Federal courthouse if the Federal Police weren't there? Also, to your point earlier, they tried to get that moron mayor to help and he said no. AND, they do have their badge number and who they work for on their uniform, just not there last name. It's not some secret police gestapo like you are pretending. Now if you meant Portland is acceptable and Chicago isn't, then I kind of get what you are saying. It's insane that those in leadership would rather lay down for these violent loser clowns than actually keep law and order.

Yeah, I was more referring to Chicago. 

Portland is a whole different messy beast as I have no idea who to believe or trust. But, some of the footage of the federal forces attacking the Moms yesterday was not a good look. 

posted by jmog

Their own leaders admit to being Marxist and their website lists Marxist demands that they want across the country.

You can say “come on guys” but they don’t deny nor hide it.

Yeah, I agree there. But, just to assume because they raise a fist makes them commies is a stretch....

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, I was more referring to Chicago. 

Portland is a whole different messy beast as I have no idea who to believe or trust. But, some of the footage of the federal forces attacking the Moms yesterday was not a good look. 

Lol they’re not moms. Classic terrorist tactic to act like innocent women are in the way. Would make them even douchier if there moms were there. Andy NGO clearly leans right but he posts a lot of raw footage. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Probably not in Hipsterville or wherever you live.  But head down to the south side and I think you'd be scared poopless by the random violence that exists in the black community there.  Is there equal BLM outrage over that?  Not even close.

I live in Streeterville. Hipsterville, definitely not. I was also in the south side on Sunday, confirmed not shot. Is there anything factual youd like to provide to the conversation? Or are you just butthurt that my words hurts your feelz recently so you’re gonna try and counter everything I say, including when it’s just pointing out that QO is a dipshit moron? 

posted by SportsAndLady

I live in Streeterville. Hipsterville, definitely not. I was also in the south side on Sunday, confirmed not shot. Is there anything factual youd like to provide to the conversation? Or are you just butthurt that my words hurts your feelz recently so you’re gonna try and counter everything I say, including when it’s just pointing out that QO is a dipshit moron? 

You're not hurting my feelings.  Chicago and many other cities are experiencing a rise in violent crime.  There was a mass shooting at a funeral in Chicago yesterday - 14 people wounded.  The funeral was for another black-on-black crime victim.  I'm sure the white professionals in Streeterville were mostly spared.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You're not hurting my feelings.  Chicago and many other cities are experiencing a rise in violent crime.  There was a mass shooting at a funeral in Chicago yesterday - 14 people wounded.  The funeral was for another black-on-black crime victim.  I'm sure the white professionals in Streeterville were mostly spared.

I’m not even sure the point you’re trying to make? 

posted by SportsAndLady

I’m not even sure the point you’re trying to make? 

Someone said Chicago is being terrorized nightly.  You said you live there and are not being terrorized.  Maybe "Chicago" as a whole isn't being terrorized.  But like a lot of urban centers right now, there is a sizeable increase in violent  - and often random - crime.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Someone said Chicago is being terrorized nightly.  You said you live there and are not being terrorized.  Maybe "Chicago" as a whole isn't being terrorized.  But like a lot of urban centers right now, there is a sizeable increase in violent  - and often random - crime.  

“Citizens in Chicago are being terrorized nightly”

I’m a citizen in Chicago. Not being terrorized nightly. 

Hope this helps

posted by SportsAndLady

“Citizens in Chicago are being terrorized nightly”

I’m a citizen in Chicago. Not being terrorized nightly. 

Hope this helps

"Citizens in Chicago" is different than "All citizens in Chicago".  

I'm not generally in agreement with QO, but he has a point that the leadership of Chicago and other similar cities have big problems with primarily black-on-black crime that is increasing.  They'd be better off to focus on that as opposed to worrying about "Trump's Troops."  

posted by SportsAndLady

“Citizens in Chicago are being terrorized nightly”

I’m a citizen in Chicago. Not being terrorized nightly. 

Hope this helps

Chicago is a big place.....I bet you arent looking for a friday evening trip to the South side

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, I agree there. But, just to assume because they raise a fist makes them commies is a stretch....

The origin of the raised fist as either a symbol or gesture is unclear. As early as 1914, a clenched fist was described by Mother Earth magazine as "symbolical of the social revolution."^[3] A raised right fist was used in a cartoon by the Industrial Workers of the World^[4] (IWW) in 1917.

The use of the fist by communists and antifascists is first evidenced in 1924, when it was adopted as the salute for the Communist Party of Germany's Roter Frontkämpferbund ("Alliance of Red Front-Fighters"). In reaction, the Nazi Party adopted the well-known Roman salute two years later.^[5] The gesture of the raised fist was apparently known in the United States as well, and is seen in a photograph from a May Day march in New York City in 1936.^[6] It is perhaps best known in this era from its use during the Spanish Civil War of 1936–1939, as a greeting by the Republican faction, and known as the "Popular Front salute" or the "anti-fascist salute".^[7]

Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_symbolism

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, I agree there. But, just to assume because they raise a fist makes them commies is a stretch....

Isn't that how it works though?  Perception is reality and if people perceive it for something different, something offensive...then it's offensive. 

If people want to cancel the raised fist, then so be it.

There is no such thing as black on black Crime. It’s just crime. Black on black is racist propaganda. And yes black people are highly outraged and it  has been pointed out multiple times in this thread there are anti gang/ anti gun rallies every weekend. Links were even provided.

85 percent of whites people are killed by other white people. Why do we never hear about white on white crime? The simple fact is that people of similar socio economic backgrounds commit crime/murder at the exact same rate. So what you are talking about is poor people commiting crime and projecting that on other black people. Yes I know black people commit a disproportionate amount of murder, they also make up a disproportionate amount of poor people. The fact is that 94.5 percent of black people don’t commit any murder and over 96 percent of black people don’t commit any crime. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You're not hurting my feelings.  Chicago and many other cities are experiencing a rise in violent crime.  There was a mass shooting at a funeral in Chicago yesterday - 14 people wounded.  The funeral was for another black-on-black crime victim.  I'm sure the white professionals in Streeterville were mostly spared.

Did you know that black-on-black crime is actually just...crime? Most people commit crimes against people they know and live near. That's why white people are generally killed by white people. I don't hear many folks bringing up white-on-white crime, though. 

posted by Fab4Runner

 I don't hear many folks bringing up white-on-white crime, though. 

Probably because when a black person kills a white person you don't see the same mass outrage trying to shame an entire race of people for something they did not do?

Also, the "it's just crime" argument is no different than the "all lives matter" argument that seems to make a lot of people butthurt.  Can you all at least be consistent? 

posted by jmog

Their own leaders admit to being Marxist and their website lists Marxist demands that they want across the country.

You can say “come on guys” but they don’t deny nor hide it.

Not to mention it's the same exact logo in a different color.  Context matters; come on ptown.  Don't be lazy.

posted by like_that

Probably because when a black person kills a white person you don't see the same mass outrage trying to shame an entire race of people for something they did not do?

Also, the "it's just crime" argument is no different than the "all lives matter" argument that seems to make a lot of people butthurt.  Can you all at least be consistent? 

Terrible analogies.. 

posted by geeblock

Terrible analogies.. 

Go ahead and explain why.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

"Citizens in Chicago" is different than "All citizens in Chicago".  

I'm not generally in agreement with QO, but he has a point that the leadership of Chicago and other similar cities have big problems with primarily black-on-black crime that is increasing.  They'd be better off to focus on that as opposed to worrying about "Trump's Troops."  

That’s very true, the black on black crime in Chicago is a recent thing that’s only existed since BLM protests have been going on. Good call

posted by like_that

Go ahead and explain why.

You have truly lost your mind. I always knew Italy was a pretty racist country, your recent posts on here have only proven that to be true  

posted by geeblock

There is no such thing as black on black Crime. It’s just crime. Black on black is racist propaganda. And yes black people are highly outraged and it  has been pointed out multiple times in this thread there are anti gang/ anti gun rallies every weekend. Links were even provided.

85 percent of whites people are killed by other white people. Why do we never hear about white on white crime? The simple fact is that people of similar socio economic backgrounds commit crime/murder at the exact same rate. So what you are talking about is poor people commiting crime and projecting that on other black people. Yes I know black people commit a disproportionate amount of murder, they also make up a disproportionate amount of poor people. The fact is that 94.5 percent of black people don’t commit any murder and over 96 percent of black people don’t commit any crime. 

If there's a crowd of people telling me that "Black Lives Matter" and citing examples of cops killing black people, than it is reasonable to ask those same people why they do not project the same outrage at innocent black people being killed mostly by other black people.  

I've heard and read black leaders discuss black-on-black crime.  I doubt they are racists too.

posted by SportsAndLady

You have truly lost your mind. I always knew Italy was a pretty racist country, your recent posts on here have only proven that to be true  

lol there it is, s&l has completed his progressive transformation.  Call someone racist, because you can't come up with a logical response to a simple question. Congrats dude, your wife is probably proud.  

Anyway, I am legitimately asking gblock a question.  I am open to see why that is a terrible analogy.