Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason Thread 2013
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sportswizuhrd
Don't want an additional 9 million off the books for the Summer of '14?Mulva;1446767 wrote:I think that's a terrible trade for the cavs, even without considering the bad contract they'd be taking on. -
lhslep134
Honestly, if we really want a shot blocker and a wing player out of our top 2 picks, take a wing like Oladipo or McLemore and find a way to get Dieng. -
Midstate01
lhslep134;1446794 wrote:Honestly, if we really want a shot blocker and a wing player out of our top 2 picks, take a wing like Oladipo or McLemore and find a way to get Dieng.
If you make the trade with dallas, that could happen at 13. Could also still be the foreign center there that a lot of teams like. His name is slipping my mind -
Pick6
Gobert?Midstate01;1446796 wrote:If you make the trade with dallas, that could happen at 13. Could also still be the foreign center there that a lot of teams like. His name is slipping my mind
If you're thinking Len, I say he will go top 10. -
Midstate01
Pick6;1446798 wrote:Gobert?
If you're thinking Len, I say he will go top 10.
Gobert. Thanks. -
Crimson streak
What about a trade with Sac. For Cousins and to take the restrictions off the 2014 pick to make it unprotected. I'd give them the first pick and the 19th for cousins and the unprotected pick. Any chance at wiggins is all I want lol -
Midstate01
Crimson streak;1446802 wrote:What about a trade with Sac. For Cousins and to take the restrictions off the 2014 pick to make it unprotected. I'd give them the first pick and the 19th for cousins and the unprotected pick. Any chance at wiggins is all I want lol
Cousins just scares the crap out of me. Plenty of talent. Bur bad teamate, bad attitude. Has cancer written all over him. -
Commander of Awesome
Bur bad teammate? What does that mean? I can't figure it out! Your (lol) dumb.Midstate01;1446804 wrote:Cousins just scares the crap out of me. Plenty of talent. Bur bad teamate, bad attitude. Has cancer written all over him.
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Mulva
I would take Cousins. -
Midstate01
Commander of Awesome;1446807 wrote:Bur bad teammate? What does that mean? I can't figure it out! Your (lol) dumb.
/pick6reachfail
Sorry. Meant but -
Crimson streak
Midstate01;1446804 wrote:Cousins just scares the crap out of me. Plenty of talent. Bur bad teamate, bad attitude. Has cancer written all over him.
I think a lot of it has to do with the kings sucking and really will continue to suck. And also that he really just doesn't want to be there. I really think he would be fine in Cleveland. He would be on a team that is very talented, young and actually has a plan and will be a top team in the east soon. Winning cures everything -
Azubuike24
Not that it's a fair comparison, but I don't see his problems being any worse than Dwight Howard. Sure, he hasn't performed quite at Howard's level yet, but Dwight is about to sign a max deal with someone here soon... -
Pick6
Please show me where I've said that.Commander of Awesome;1446807 wrote:Bur bad teammate? What does that mean? I can't figure it out! Your (lol) dumb.
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Commander of Awesome
Wow you're dense. It was referencing your post earlier where you played dumb and tried to act like you didn't know what my wording meant on my previous post regarding Noel's weight compared to Marc Gasol/Dwight Howard. Everyone else got it, but you were too concerned with trying to be a little bitch and call out everything derailing the thread. Which you're still trying to do. Now please TRY and stay on topic, not trying to derail every Cleveland thread because you're not a Cleveland fan and no one wants to talk cowboys football with you. Wildcats seems to be able to do it, not sure why you can't.Pick6;1447213 wrote:Please show me where I've said that.
Now, BACK ON TOPIC. Cousins is obliviously a superior prospect than any player in this draft, but he's a selfish idiot who I think would destroy this locker room. I don't see Mike Brown as the leader to change that. -
Pick6
Get a life. You're little obsession with me is pathetic. I knew exactly what you're wording meant, and you were wrong. Sorry you're so butthurt that I pointed it out.Commander of Awesome;1447216 wrote:Wow you're dense. It was referencing your post earlier where you played dumb and tried to act like you didn't know what my wording meant on my previous post regarding Noel's weight compared to Marc Gasol/Dwight Howard. Everyone else got it, but you were too concerned with trying to be a little bitch and call out everything derailing the thread. Which you're still trying to do. Now please TRY and stay on topic, not trying to derail every Cleveland thread because you're not a Cleveland fan and no one wants to talk cowboys football with you. Wildcats seems to be able to do it, not sure why you can't.
Now, BACK ON TOPIC. Cousins is obliviously a superior prospect than any player in this draft, but he's a selfish idiot who I think would destroy this locker room. I don't see Mike Brown as the leader to change that. -
Commander of Awesome
You love to throw get a life around following like_that and I and continuously talk about penis. Yet we're obsessed with you? :rolleyes:Pick6;1447219 wrote:Get a life. You're little obsession with me is pathetic. I knew exactly what you're wording meant, and you were wrong. Sorry you're so butthurt that I pointed it out.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?26836-Random-Soccer-Chatter&p=1441363#post1441363
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?39331-Job-Thread&p=1436246#post1436246Pick6;1441363 wrote:Logic doesnt work with dickheads who have no intent to have a discussion, but just throw out insults to get their e-dicks hard. Dont waste your time.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?38470-2013-Cleveland-Browns-Thread-Mingo-ate-my-baby&p=1426738#post1426738Pick6;1436246 wrote:LOL. Get off my dick already./smug post
Good one dude! /sarcasmPick6;1426738 wrote:Cool. I call you guys out in a thread you were bitching in now you are going to troll me like you do everybody else who doesnt suck your dicks.
Now for the love of god, can we get back on topic? I'm tired of the newest Cleveland troll trying to derail Cleveland threads. -
Pick6
You're a pathetic loser.Commander of Awesome;1447225 wrote:You love to throw get a life around following like_that and I and continuously talk about penis. Yet we're obsessed with? :rolleyes:
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?26836-Random-Soccer-Chatter&p=1441363#post1441363
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?39331-Job-Thread&p=1436246#post1436246http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?39331-Job-Thread&p=1436246#post1436246
Good one dude! /sarcasm
Now for the love of god, can we get back on topic? I'm tired of the newest Cleveland troll trying to derail Cleveland threads. -
Fly4Fun
Stop it with the personal attacks. -
like_that
YEAH DUDE! Big bad tough moderator with power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Fly4Fun;1447237 wrote:Stop it with the personal attacks. -
ohiobucks1
I cant understand why everyone thinks NN is too big of a risk for the cavs to take yet we expect people to trade a bunch of stuff in order to move up to #1 to take him... Doesn't make sense to me especially considering we could use an athletic, defensive center -
Midstate01
Sam Amico's updated mock :
http://tinyurl.com/ovwnwzw -
Pick6
Another Kansas fan's take on McLemore
I'm a KU fan so I have seen Mclemore play alot and know his game very well, but I have my concerns. He has all kinds of talent, but he has a demeanor that scares me. He just flat out isn't very aggressive, and I could imagine he would be even more passive in the NBA since he will be playing on a whole new level with superstars and veterans, which I'm sure would be intimidating. And to be fair, it could maybe be used in a good way since it shows he isn't selfish and can learn to play within the flow of an offense which is a great trait to have, but there were SO many times where he should have taken over on KU and be more aggressive to lead his team to victory, but he never really did and let his far less superior teammates continue to make the plays. That shows lack of leadership to me, which can be learned, but the guy has to be way more aggressive and hopefully he can figure it out in the NBA.
That being said, I think he will be a solid player in the league and won't be a bust by any stretch, but I don't think he will live up to the hype and expectation that everyone has for him. He definitely has the potential to be a player like Ray Allen in his prime, but I don't think he will quite get there but could get close. So that said, would a player that could potentially be Ray Allen at the best be super worth a number one pick? Not really in my opinion, especially when we have Dion who will either be just as good of a player, if not better. And I highly doubt Dion would want to come off the bench, especially to a rookie. So basically I'm not sure he fits either way.
I would only take him if Nerlens had confirmed injury complications, but even then you would have to consider other candidates. -
Pick6
He called Archie Goodwin a pure shooter :huh:Midstate01;1447444 wrote:Sam Amico's updated mock :
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sportswizuhrd
I would not hold out on the idea that teams would want to move up to take someone else other than Noel. He is not a definite #1 pick and someone might see Burke, Oladipo or McLemore as their guy. I don't know of those teams because I haven't studied contracts/Free Agency yet.ohiobucks1;1447330 wrote:I cant understand why everyone thinks NN is too big of a risk for the cavs to take yet we expect people to trade a bunch of stuff in order to move up to #1 to take him... Doesn't make sense to me especially considering we could use an athletic, defensive center