posted by Verbal Kint

Disagree.  The toll on mental health is going to be exponentially worse than this perceived hazard.

I can find no ill effects to healthy persons. 

I agree with the mental health stuff but the rest is BS. Just a completely out of touch take. Blows my mind how people can be so dense.

posted by Rotinaj

I agree with the mental health stuff but the rest is BS. Just a completely out of touch take. Blows my mind how people can be so dense.

So society should reside in a bubble until all known viruses have a vaccine?

posted by kizer permanente

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/

This is my wife’s friends husband. 

I see, no known pervious?  Is there any others or is he the only person?

posted by Verbal Kint

I see, no known pervious?  Is there any others or is he the only person?

Yes, I'm sure out of the 137,000 deaths, he was the only healthy person. Just him.

We also have no idea what the long term effects are even when people do recover. A lot of people are still struggling months later. 

Mental health during lockdown and/or life with restrictions is absolutely something to talk about, but there's no need to downplay this. 

posted by Verbal Kint

So society should reside in a bubble until all known viruses have a vaccine?

We need to wear masks and social distance, thats it. But that is apparently too hard for people like yourself that are ignorant to whats even going on. I mean FFS you literally asked if a single healthy person has been affected from this. 

posted by Rotinaj

We need to wear masks and social distance, thats it. But that is apparently too hard for people like yourself that are ignorant to whats even going on. I mean FFS you literally asked if a single healthy person has been affected from this. 

We found one, "just him".  Restrictions are more than masks and social distance.  This will be a mental health crises due to trying to protect those who are at risk due to obtaining risk factors like hypertension from lifestyle decisions.  This was around in January, school age kids went to school for 2 months before being pulled from the classrooms, now we are going to have a generation that will lose how much due to moving the goalpost from a few weeks of "flatten the curve" to wait until a vaccine for this virus is tested and approved?  

You’re just very wrong, and unfortunately there’s probably nothing we can say that will change your mind. Which is scary

I also love this beautiful logic:

Me: we should take precautions 

You: so we should just live in a bubble?!?!

Do you know what precautions are? No one is saying live in a bubble or completely shut down life. But wear a mask, social distance from people, no large gatherings...there’s no reason not to practice those behaviors and be cautious until we truly know how to defeat this or how to prevent the spread. 

Just like FB

This is the type of COVID dashboard I wish were available at the state and US level. 

posted by friendfromlowry

By the way, people with Type A blood are more high risk to get it and get it bad. Type O typically do better. 

Interesting, I am A+ and had it but was asymptomatic. Who knows.

posted by SportsAndLady

Maybe you did get it  (asymptotic) and gave it to your wife and family? Which is what that article was saying is the risk  

Maybe you missed the part where the WHO said research shows that those that are asymptomatic are highly unlikely to transmit the virus.

posted by jmog

Maybe you missed the part where the WHO said research shows that those that are asymptomatic are highly unlikely to transmit the virus.

Oh yes, the WHO know everything about this virus!

posted by SportsAndLady

Oh yes, the WHO know everything about this virus!

Do they know more than even the most brilliant person in this site?

posted by SportsAndLady

Oh yes, the WHO know everything about this virus!

My guess is they know more than SnL does on the virus, but maybe I am wrong here.

posted by jmog

My guess is they know more than SnL does on the virus, but maybe I am wrong here.

All I did was suggest an option, fuckface. 

posted by jmog

Maybe you missed the part where the WHO said research shows that those that are asymptomatic are highly unlikely to transmit the virus.

They walked that back the following day. They simply don't know enough. 

posted by Fab4Runner

 They simply don't know shit. 

posted by jmog

Maybe you missed the part where the WHO said research shows that those that are asymptomatic are highly unlikely to transmit the virus.

Or he balanced that against multiple studies that say the opposite.

posted by Fab4Runner

They walked that back the following day. They simply don't know enough. 

I read the walk back, it definitely sounded more like “oh crap, I shouldn’t have said that because politically it would be bad”.

Here’s the walk back  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/09/who-scrambles-to-clarify-comments-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-much-is-still-unknown.html

This is what makes the numbers hard to follow or believe sometimes. 

This video if from Illinois. 

I also know this to be true as my grandpa’s wife died in a nursing home during the main outbreak  she had late term dementia and was told she had days maybe weeks to live.

A few COVID cases show up in her nursing home and she does die about a week later.

2 days before she died she was tested and was negative for COVID.  She was not tested again, even post-mortem.

Because she was coughing a little in her last couple hours, she was labeled as a COVID-19 death on her death certificate.

https://m.facebook.com/lesa.fisherpatten/videos/3151129788277372/

If you can’t view the video because of FB, then IDK, not sure how to download a FB video and put it on YouTube  

posted by jmog

I read the walk back, it definitely sounded more like “oh crap, I shouldn’t have said that because politically it would be bad”.

Here’s the walk back  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/09/who-scrambles-to-clarify-comments-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-much-is-still-unknown.html

Lol. 

My wife had COVID back in April, as I completely explained daily on this thread. She fully recovered.

She had to have an outpatient procedure at the hospital 3 weeks ago since hospitals opened up for “elective surgery”.

Their protocol makes them test every patient coming in for COVID.  

So, even though she was tested twice back in April (she had to be tested again to go back to work as she works with hospice patients), they tested her again and an antibody test.

She told them it was pointless as she knows she already had it. 

Her doctor is a great guy and here’s what he told her.

He said that unfortunately she would go down in the statistics as another positive case since the antibody test would come back positive. 

And here’s the kicker...if something bad happened while she was under anesthesia during the surgery and she died...

She would be listed as a COVID-19 death since she was a positive case.

My wife told him that was BS and he said “yup, but it’s the current rules”

So if you wonder why I am a little skeptic it’s because my family has actually gone through it AND seen how hospitals/hospices are treating/told to treat cases and deaths right now. 

So my wife was counted three times now as a COVID case as she had another outpatient procedure this past Monday. 

Ok, and a girl I know just went on vacation to Myrtle Beach and stayed in a hotel room with 4 other people. Three of them had Covid symptoms when they got home. One got tested and was positive. The others didn't. So (at least) three of them had it and only one was counted. 

posted by jmog

My wife had COVID back in April, as I completely explained daily on this thread. She fully recovered.

She had to have an outpatient procedure at the hospital 3 weeks ago since hospitals opened up for “elective surgery”.

Their protocol makes them test every patient coming in for COVID.  

So, even though she was tested twice back in April (she had to be tested again to go back to work as she works with hospice patients), they tested her again and an antibody test.

She told them it was pointless as she knows she already had it. 

Her doctor is a great guy and here’s what he told her.

He said that unfortunately she would go down in the statistics as another positive case since the antibody test would come back positive. 

And here’s the kicker...if something bad happened while she was under anesthesia during the surgery and she died...

She would be listed as a COVID-19 death since she was a positive case.

My wife told him that was BS and he said “yup, but it’s the current rules”

So if you wonder why I am a little skeptic it’s because my family has actually gone through it AND seen how hospitals/hospices are treating/told to treat cases and deaths right now. 

So my wife was counted three times now as a COVID case as she had another outpatient procedure this past Monday. 

Yeah, well, my wife did the same thing and the same situation but the doctor said she wouldn’t be counted in either situation as a positive test!

So let’s see which anecdotal story people choose to believe!