posted by Fab4Runner

They walked that back the following day. They simply don't know enough. 

This and like_that’s FIFY about sums it up.

posted by friendfromlowry

This and like_that’s FIFY about sums it up.

Jmog used it because it helped his agenda...SHOCKER

posted by SportsAndLady

Yeah, well, my wife did the same thing and the same situation but the doctor said she wouldn’t be counted in either situation as a positive test!

So let’s see which anecdotal story people choose to believe!

To be honest I don’t give two shits if people believe me. Just relaying truthful information. People can choose to believe me or not, doesn’t change anything on my end.

posted by Fab4Runner

Ok, and a girl I know just went on vacation to Myrtle Beach and stayed in a hotel room with 4 other people. Three of them had Covid symptoms when they got home. One got tested and was positive. The others didn't. So (at least) three of them had it and only one was counted. 

You are 100% right. My mom, dad, sister, 2 of my kids, and probably myself all had the virus. Only my wife got tested.

My story was less about the cases and more about the death reporting. 

But you aren’t wrong, studies have shown that with regards to infections/cases you can take the reported cases and multiply it by 30-40 times. 

So in the US we are at almost 3.5 million cases, if those studies are right we have really had 100-120 million cases. This would make the death rate REALLY low since the rate is deaths/infections.

I should have been more clear. When I said I question the numbers, in total cases I believe it to be MUCH higher than 3.5 million for reasons like you said and my family, plus the multiple studies that say so.

I also believe the deaths are lower than stated since pretty much every(at least most) death right now in a hospital or nursing home gets put down as a COVID death. 

Just wanted to share some good news. My friends dad went into the Hospital July 4 and was released today. He’s in his mid 70s so it’s great that he beat it.

posted by sportchampps

Just wanted to share some good news. My friends dad went into the Hospital July 4 and was released today. He’s in his mid 70s so it’s great that he beat it.

First day with no deaths in NYC since March 11. 👏🏻👏🏻

posted by ernest_t_bass

Aren't league games still happening? 

Allegedly.

California shutting down all bars and restaurants (not sure if delivery/takeout is allowed, I assume so?) throughout the state. 38 counties (80% of the population affected) will see additional closures likes gyms, churches, casinos, zoos, etc. 

I just don't see what this accomplishes. Four months ago, a fraction of the people were infected that are now. I don't know how long you can keep things closed without continuing to screw a ton of people. If you reopen things again there in 6 weeks, why would it play out any differently than it is now? 

posted by friendfromlowry

California shutting down all bars and restaurants (not sure if delivery/takeout is allowed, I assume so?) throughout the state. 38 counties (80% of the population affected) will see additional closures likes gyms, churches, casinos, zoos, etc. 

I just don't see what this accomplishes. Four months ago, a fraction of the people were infected that are now. I don't know how long you can keep things closed without continuing to screw a ton of people. If you reopen things again there in 6 weeks, why would it play out any differently than it is now? 

I agree. Can't just keep opening and closing the economy. Sadly, we are led by a moron who has convinced enough of this country that covid isnt a big deal and will just go away one day like magic. Not sure what needs to happen to open peoples eyes. 

posted by Rotinaj

I agree. Can't just keep opening and closing the economy. Sadly, we are led by a moron who has convinced enough of this country that covid isnt a big deal and will just go away one day like magic. Not sure what needs to happen to open peoples eyes. 

Maybe neither side should have politisized this from day one?  That would have helped.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/13/ohio-county-implements-hotline-to-report-people-not-wearing-masks/

Karen County

posted by friendfromlowry

California shutting down all bars and restaurants (not sure if delivery/takeout is allowed, I assume so?) throughout the state. 38 counties (80% of the population affected) will see additional closures likes gyms, churches, casinos, zoos, etc. 

I just don't see what this accomplishes. Four months ago, a fraction of the people were infected that are now. I don't know how long you can keep things closed without continuing to screw a ton of people. If you reopen things again there in 6 weeks, why would it play out any differently than it is now? 

This was fine a month ago though?

THis is all about the election now.

Every indicator of these positive tests dont add up to anything.  

Also, Cuomo, what the fuck is this:

posted by like_that

Maybe neither side should have politisized this from day one?  That would have helped.

Yeah, this is where I approve of how my current state, Maryland, and Governor Hogan has done in all of this. Early on, Hogan followed other Governors and issued stay at home orders, used the medical resources and experts to issue guidance, required masks early on and still to this day. He stayed above the fray politics wise and just followed the science and experts. Nearly everyone wears a mask around here and there are really no complaints. As a result, cases in Maryland are largely flat, not increasing, and we are slowing start to open up again. 

posted by Spock

THis is all about the election now.

Every indicator of these positive tests dont add up to anything.  

I doubt governors and mayors are purposefully shutting down their own economies to make sure Donald Trump does not get reelected.  That is some wild shit there man. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I doubt governors and mayors are purposefully shutting down their own economies to make sure Donald Trump does not get reelected.  That is some wild shit there man. 

Kind of like Russian collusion?

posted by Spock

Kind of like Russian collusion?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

you just know he's sitting back in his chair right now, smirking at the screen because he thinks he got you so good.

I try very hard to ignore the politics of this.  My primary focus now is following the developments of schools opening or not opening in the fall.  I have an eighth grade daughter, so that's where I'm coming from.  I am appalled at districts not opening.  Our school is scheduled to be open as of now.  However I hope the trend of these big districts closing has limited spread.  Punishing children for this thing is ridiculous and immoral.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I try very hard to ignore the politics of this.  My primary focus now is following the developments of schools opening or not opening in the fall.  I have an eighth grade daughter, so that's where I'm coming from.  I am appalled at districts not opening.  Our school is scheduled to be open as of now.  However I hope the trend of these big districts closing has limited spread.  Punishing children for this thing is ridiculous and immoral.  

The American Academy of Pediatrics agrees with you. 

https://www.today.com/parents/american-academy-pediatrics-president-push-schools-reopen-t185806

Unfortunately, schools reopening has already turned political (ie the dumbass LA teachers union)

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I try very hard to ignore the politics of this.  My primary focus now is following the developments of schools opening or not opening in the fall.  I have an eighth grade daughter, so that's where I'm coming from.  I am appalled at districts not opening.  Our school is scheduled to be open as of now.  However I hope the trend of these big districts closing has limited spread.  Punishing children for this thing is ridiculous and immoral.  

Aren’t you the same guy that thought Ohio State raising ticket prices for football games was immoral? 

posted by SportsAndLady

Aren’t you the same guy that thought Ohio State raising ticket prices for football games was immoral? 

No.  College football ticket prices are not a morality question in my book.  If someone wants to pay Eleventy Billion dollars for a ticket to a football game, that's their business.