posted by iclfan2Except for the elderly that were murdered by the governor in nursing homesAlso, Cuomo, what the fuck is this:
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI try very hard to ignore the politics of this. My primary focus now is following the developments of schools opening or not opening in the fall. I have an eighth grade daughter, so that's where I'm coming from. I am appalled at districts not opening. Our school is scheduled to be open as of now. However I hope the trend of these big districts closing has limited spread. Punishing children for this thing is ridiculous and immoral.
Teachers teaching summer school have caught the virus and become very sick and even died in some cases. If the CDC recommendations aren't enough to protect them in the summer with limited enrollment, do you really see it going well with much higher enrollment in the fall?
posted by iclfan2Also, Cuomo, what the fuck is this:
It's called a waste of taxpayer money. It goes well with this giant waste of time and money:
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI try very hard to ignore the politics of this. My primary focus now is following the developments of schools opening or not opening in the fall. I have an eighth grade daughter, so that's where I'm coming from. I am appalled at districts not opening. Our school is scheduled to be open as of now. However I hope the trend of these big districts closing has limited spread. Punishing children for this thing is ridiculous and immoral.
Sad we are going through this that will affect the mental health of our youth
posted by Al BundyTeachers teaching summer school have caught the virus and become very sick and even died in some cases. If the CDC recommendations aren't enough to protect them in the summer with limited enrollment, do you really see it going well with much higher enrollment in the fall?
Could I see a link for this? I have not heard this concern from any teachers that I know
posted by justincredibleIt's called a waste of taxpayer money. It goes well with this giant waste of time and money:
Celebrating leading the way in deaths and deaths per million with a sweet poster people can buy. It’s just amazing to see people still deflect blame from him.
posted by Verbal KintCould I see a link for this? I have not heard this concern from any teachers that I know
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/12/us/arizona-teachers-coronavirus/index.html
posted by Al BundyTeachers teaching summer school have caught the virus and become very sick and even died in some cases. If the CDC recommendations aren't enough to protect them in the summer with limited enrollment, do you really see it going well with much higher enrollment in the fall?
There are stories of individuals who have gotten sick and died in many professions. That doesn't mean the risks are particularly high. Is there a risk? Of course. There is a risk driving to school everyday. Evidence strongly shows that not only do kids catch the virus at far lower rates and become less sickened by it, but also that they are poor carriers of it (i.e. spreaders to teachers and staff). Teachers with health issues should be accomodated. But the risk of the average teacher and staff, as clearly shown in countries where schools have remained open, is not high if proper measures are taken.
posted by Al Bundyhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/12/us/arizona-teachers-coronavirus/index.html
There will always be stories like this as long as the virus exists. If you look at the statistics however, the risk is still very small. We cannot stay home until the risk is zero. That is impractical.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieThere will always be stories like this as long as the virus exists. If you look at the statistics however, the risk is still very small. We cannot stay home until the risk is zero. That is impractical.
I pretty much agree with this. I think they should take extra precautions in places that are obvious hotbeds for things to get out of hand (nursing homes, for example).
Restricting everything else just seems overly cautious and unnecessary.
posted by Al Bundyhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/12/us/arizona-teachers-coronavirus/index.html
Thank you for the link. I think that someone with asthma, diabetes and lupus would be at high risk and we should not have someone with those high types of risk in social settings.
Is there any occurrences of healthy educators becoming critically ill due to this virus?
posted by Verbal KintIs there any occurrences of healthy educators becoming critically ill due to this virus?
Well you don’t believe any healthy person has ever gotten critically ill from Covid, so what’s the point of us answering your question?
There have been young, healthy people with different types of occupations who become inexplicably sick. But it’s not common or likely. I’d guess far more have had it/been exposed to it and never even known it.
I think we’ve really over-dramatized someone testing positive.
For what it's worth, I do not expect much college sports to happen this fall. I've been in a lot of discussions with coaches, and they are concluding the same. Some can and probably will occur: cross country, tennis, some golf, and other sports like that.
We firmly believe the ADs know that it'll be moved too, they are just holding onto the potential of football happening -- because they need it. They won't cancel other sports until the decision is made that there will be no football.
NJCAA just moved nearly all sports to the spring semester. Two DI conferences have done the same. Some DII and DIII schools too. Some individual schools have straight up said no sports for the 2020-21 school year.
The second-biggest school district in Indiana announced to start virtual classes to begin the school year. Will be interesting to see what happens with high school sports with those decisions being made.
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posted by friendfromlowryI think we’ve really over-dramatized someone testing positive.
Yes, part of the daily pandemic porn. But the deaths are very real (despite issues with reporting, I'd guess the death count is within +/-10% of the real number).
For a little perspective, before we had a flu vaccine, adjusted for population growth about 120k people died for it annually. Since Covid-19 is not seasonal, you'd be talking probably 3X that WITH preventative measures.
Left unchecked I think we've seen anecdotal evidence that 80-90% of the population could easily catch this...with a mortality rate of even 0.25%, that would be 625k deaths in one year.
posted by SportsAndLadyWell you don’t believe any healthy person has ever gotten critically ill from Covid, so what’s the point of us answering your question?
That is not true, there is one, the broadway actor, we had 1.6 million persons die from diabetes last year, but yet we still allow the causes of that to be present, which in fact is the real cause of the virus being effective
posted by Verbal KintThat is not true, there is one, the broadway actor, we had 1.6 million persons die from diabetes last year, but yet we still allow the causes of that to be present, which in fact is the real cause of the virus being effective
The broadway actor wasn’t a healthy person. He had underlying health issues.
You auto lose the Covid argument when you start saying things like “diabetes kill X amount of people a year, car accidents kill X amount of people a year” it’s a garbage rebuttal to a problem that we still don’t know how to fix
posted by gut100% agree. I was very annoyed at all the OMG, cases are so high headlines without context of the increase in hospital rates. I was a little more cautious on things until last week when the death nubmer started to rise.Yes, part of the daily pandemic porn. But the deaths are very real (despite issues with reporting, I'd guess the death count is within +/-10% of the real number).
For a little perspective, before we had a flu vaccine, adjusted for population growth about 120k people died for it annually. Since Covid-19 is not seasonal, you'd be talking probably 3X that WITH preventative measures.
Left unchecked I think we've seen anecdotal evidence that 80-90% of the population could easily catch this...with a mortality rate of even 0.25%, that would be 625k deaths in one year.
posted by SportsAndLadyThe broadway actor wasn’t a healthy person. He had underlying health issues.
You auto lose the Covid argument when you start saying things like “diabetes kill X amount of people a year, car accidents kill X amount of people a year” it’s a garbage rebuttal to a problem that we still don’t know how to fix
What do you mean "auto lose"? When COVID is responsible for shutting things down because of the risk (possibly preventable, possibly not), why can't you compare that with other forms of risk we take every day? It's not that COVID isn't serious - it is. But there are some baseline risks we as a society must take in order to function properly. We do that every day with other diseases or actions. Why is that comparison not relevant?
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieWhat do you mean "auto lose"? When COVID is responsible for shutting things down because of the risk (possibly preventable, possibly not), why can't you compare that with other forms of risk we take every day? It's not that COVID isn't serious - it is. But there are some baseline risks we as a society must take in order to function properly. We do that every day with other diseases or actions. Why is that comparison not relevant?
You'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure than diabetes and car accidents are not contagious diseases where, by not taking precautions and whatnot, you'll catch them by being in the proximity of someone else and then potentially pass them along to any number of other people during the course of a handful of days.
posted by HereticYou'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure than diabetes and car accidents are not contagious diseases where, by not taking precautions and whatnot, you'll catch them by being in the proximity of someone else and then potentially pass them along to any number of other people during the course of a handful of days.
No for diabetes. Car accidents are "contagious" in that someone else can cause your death through no fault of your own.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieNo for diabetes. Car accidents are "contagious" in that someone else can cause your death through no fault of your own.
But car accidents are only like 30k deaths annually in the US.
I suppose we could talk about smoking, aside from the fact there's practically no studies that established a statistically significant link between second hand smoke and cancer.
