Covid-19 discussion, continued...

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:07 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Complaining about your state considering another shut down while you’re sitting inside at a bar is just pure gold. 

Indeed. 


friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:17 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Lol wow,  you still don’t get it


I asked this before but if things were to be shut down and reopened beginning of September for example, why would the numbers be any better then? 

Until they actually enforce masks and social distancing and gatherings, this pattern of close/open doesn’t fix anything. 


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:19 PM

Wasn’t the initial shutdown to prevent hospitals from being overrun? Are they overrun now? No? Then what the fuck?

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:20 PM
posted by iclfan2

Who runs those states? Do you try to be as dumb as possible?


I’m well aware who runs those states, that’s why I made my comment—when you’ve got nothing, blame the left. That’s your MO


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:23 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

I asked this before but if things were to be shut down and reopened beginning of September for example, why would the numbers be any better then? 

Until they actually enforce masks and social distancing and gatherings, this pattern of close/open doesn’t fix anything. 


I’m not saying closing down is the answer. I’m actually against it. 

It’s just funny to me to complain about shutdowns while you’re sitting inside a bar. That’s the exact reason why there’s gonna be another shutdown in the first place. People not socially distancing, and sitting inside at bars and restaurants isn’t going to help that. 


iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:23 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’m well aware who runs those states, that’s why I made my comment—when you’ve got nothing, blame the left. That’s your MO


What else is there to blame? Do you have any intelligent thoughts in your head besides dumbass comebacks on here? Not once have I seen you counter someone’s argument with a logical thought, it’s just your usual dumbass bullshit. Stay scared up in your Chicago high rise for the rest of your life. 


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:29 PM
posted by iclfan2

What else is there to blame? Do you have any intelligent thoughts in your head besides dumbass comebacks on here? Not once have I seen you counter someone’s argument with a logical thought, it’s just your usual dumbass bullshit. Stay scared up in your Chicago high rise for the rest of your life. 


Sick burn breh


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:30 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’m not saying closing down is the answer. I’m actually against it. 

It’s just funny to me to complain about shutdowns while you’re sitting inside a bar. That’s the exact reason why there’s gonna be another shutdown in the first place. People not socially distancing, and sitting inside at bars and restaurants isn’t going to help that. 


Yes, I’m sure the 8 of us in the bar sitting much farther than 6 feet apart are much more dangerous than a weekend at Kroger. JFC.


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:32 PM

So you’re against shutdowns but you’re also against patrons visiting bars and restaraunts?

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:35 PM
posted by justincredible

Yes, I’m sure the 8 of us in the bar sitting much farther than 6 feet apart are much more dangerous than a weekend at Kroger. JFC.


Lol. You really don’t get it. Too funny 

When Ohio gets shut down again, because of the increasing Covid numbers caused by lack of social distancing, you’re gonna complain about government overreach instead of the real problem. Wash rinse and repeat. 


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 10:37 PM
posted by justincredible

So you’re against shutdowns but you’re also against patrons visiting bars and restaraunts?

I’m saying patrons sitting inside bars and restaurants without masks can’t complain when the state is forced to shut down again. 


Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Jul 14, 2020 11:09 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Lol. You really don’t get it. Too funny 

When Ohio gets shut down again, because of the increasing Covid numbers caused by lack of social distancing, you’re gonna complain about government overreach instead of the real problem. Wash rinse and repeat. 


Is there an issue with him social distancing in a bar of 8 people? What’s he doing wrong exactly? 

Should we shut everything down or enforce masks? 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 3:51 AM
posted by justincredible

So you’re against shutdowns but you’re also against patrons visiting bars and restaraunts?

The mental gymnastics S&L displays with his "I actually agree with everything you all say, but you all are fucking idiot dumbasses!" schtick is actually pretty amazing.  

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:29 AM
posted by like_that

The mental gymnastics S&L displays with his "I actually agree with everything you all say, but you all are fucking idiot dumbasses!" schtick is actually pretty amazing.  

Agree, but I think the "venue shopping" by posters here (and everywhere) bothers me more. For example, if one study says "true" while four others say "false", and true is the answer I want to be right, it becomes a fact in my eyes.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:37 AM
posted by queencitybuckeye
Agree, but I think the "venue shopping" by posters here (and everywhere) bothers me more. For example, if one study says "true" while four others say "false", and true is the answer I want to be right, it becomes a fact in my eyes.

Welcome to the USA. That’s been a thing here for at least 2 decades now.


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:50 AM
posted by Ironman92

Is there an issue with him social distancing in a bar of 8 people? What’s he doing wrong exactly? 

Should we shut everything down or enforce masks? 


Ohio is completely open. Bars, restaurants, indoor dining, etc. 

Numbers in Ohio are rising so they’re considering another shutdown. The numbers are rising because everything is open and social distancing, masks, etc. is not happening. 

I mean did I really have to spell that out? The states where they just reopened everything are struggling with rising Covid cases because not everyone is taking precautions while they go out and sit at bars, restaurants, etc.

It was just funny to me that justin is literally at a bar (I’m sure the bar he’s at is fine, I’m sure justin and the patrons are not spreading Covid) while he’s posting frustration with the possibility of another shutdown  


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:51 AM
posted by like_that

The mental gymnastics S&L displays with his "I actually agree with everything you all say, but you all are fucking idiot dumbasses!" schtick is actually pretty amazing.  

That’s not at all what I did or do, but hey, whatever you wanna tell yourself


friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:53 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Lol. You really don’t get it. Too funny 

When Ohio gets shut down again, because of the increasing Covid numbers caused by lack of social distancing, you’re gonna complain about government overreach instead of the real problem. Wash rinse and repeat. 


I think everyone here gets it (I hope Spock wears a mask but who knows). It is possible to be out and doing it safely and responsibly which Justin seems to be doing. 

But yeah, if he were to close things down, the same people who bitched incessantly about having to wear masks wouldn’t see their faults. 

I could actually see it being a major shit showif he did that. 


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:54 AM

By the way, you should absolutely enforce masks. It’s working, check out illinois’ progress these last few months. It’s because while bars and restaurants are open, they’re open for patio seating—servers are very strict on making sure you wear a mask when walking to the bathroom or taking your seat, etc. it seems silly but it’s obviously working. Everywhere you go there’s a sign that says you must wear a mask—and hey, 99.99% of people are wearing that mask. You don’t have to wear it walking down the street or exercising, or sitting in your own house. You just wear it when you’re around people. It’s really not that big of a nuisance and it’s obviously working. 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 7:59 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

I think everyone here gets it (I hope Spock wears a mask but who knows). It is possible to be out and doing it safely and responsibly which Justin seems to be doing. 

But yeah, if he were to close things down, the same people who bitched incessantly about having to wear masks wouldn’t see their faults. 

I could actually see it being a major shit showif he did that. 


Justin (and clearly everyone else!) get their panties in a knot when someone calls them out on their “going to a bar” stories. 

But the point isn’t that justin is not being safe, the point is that others who are doing that aren’t being safe. maybe one of the other 8 people knowingly have Covid, maybe another bar down the street has 8 people in it and someone there has Covid. You never know. 

The point was never that justin is irresponsible, it’s always been that someone else doing the same thing hes doing isn’t being responsible. And when No ones wearing a mask or practicing any sort of social distancing or care, well that’s how you get more cases. 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 8:03 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Ohio is completely open. Bars, restaurants, indoor dining, etc. 

Numbers in Ohio are rising so they’re considering another shutdown. The numbers are rising because everything is open and social distancing, masks, etc. is not happening. 

I mean did I really have to spell that out? The states where they just reopened everything are struggling with rising Covid cases because not everyone is taking precautions while they go out and sit at bars, restaurants, etc.

It was just funny to me that justin is literally at a bar (I’m sure the bar he’s at is fine, I’m sure justin and the patrons are not spreading Covid) while he’s posting frustration with the possibility of another shutdown  


Justin is against state mandated shutdowns (as you said you were) and for personal responsibility.  I fail to see how going to a bar disqualifies him from being frustrated with a state mandated shutdown.   It's about the state imposing the shutdown, not the shutdown itself.  

Now, if this bar (and many other bars) shutdown on it's own and Justin bitched, then your logic would make sense. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 8:04 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

By the way, you should absolutely enforce masks. It’s working, check out illinois’ progress these last few months. It’s because while bars and restaurants are open, they’re open for patio seating—servers are very strict on making sure you wear a mask when walking to the bathroom or taking your seat, etc. it seems silly but it’s obviously working. Everywhere you go there’s a sign that says you must wear a mask—and hey, 99.99% of people are wearing that mask. You don’t have to wear it walking down the street or exercising, or sitting in your own house. You just wear it when you’re around people. It’s really not that big of a nuisance and it’s obviously working. 

Everywhere you go and 99.99%

Ok, stay calm and cool with your posts and laissez faire demeanor and exaggerate to make sure we all are imbeciles in each of your posts and replies.

Who’s fault was it when Illinois had so many cases early on in this pandemic?


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 8:09 AM
posted by like_that

Justin is against state mandated shutdowns (as you said you were) and for personal responsibility.  I fail to see how going to a bar disqualifies him from being frustrated with a state mandated shutdown.   It's about the state imposing the shutdown, not the shutdown itself.  

Now, if this bar (and many other bars) shutdown on it's own and Justin bitched, then your logic would make sense. 

Justin is going to bars, breweries, restaurants. If there is a government shutdown, he would look silly bitching about it. 

I have not gone to bars, restaurants, breweries, except what’s allowed by my state which is patio seating and you must wear a mask when not sitting at your table. There are no paper menus, no servers at a lot of places. You order from an app and a runner brings you your food or you go pick it up yourself. Even my weekend back in Ohio I didn’t feel comfortable with joining my golf group inside a restaurant so I just didn’t go. If a shutdown happened again, I’d have every right to be mad because I did what health experts advised to do. 

In both of our situations we can be against a gov’t shutdown. 

I know “your schtick” on here is now to disagree with everything I say and point out everything logically wrong with what I say, but hopefully you can wrap your brain around that very simple logic.


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 8:13 AM
posted by Ironman92

Everywhere you go and 99.99%

Ok, stay calm and cool with your posts and laissez faire demeanor and exaggerate to make sure we all are imbeciles in each of your posts and replies.

Who’s fault was it when Illinois had so many cases early on in this pandemic?


No clue what your first point is. I think Ohio is doing it wrong and I say that on here. Are you guys seriously that butthurt because I call someone an idiot while I make a point? Jesus, bunch of sissies you all became.

Who’s “fault” is it early on in Illinois? Idk if that’s a black and white answer. The fault is probably on me and the citizens of Illinois because we were out and about. But we also didn’t know how to stop the spread of Covid. Ever since it’s been shutdown and gradually reopening  and getting back to some normalcy, it’s really helped our cases. Not sure if that answers your terrible question or not?



Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 8:14 AM

Herd immunity will be the only endgame here