2011 Cleveland Cavalier Offseason/Draft

• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782361 wrote:Yes they were. There would have been much better offers and he wasn't going to sign long term. It didn't make sense for either side.

  
  Regardless, there was truth to the rumors, so again, people were allowed to discuss the matter. Stop being an idiot..
• Hb31187

  

  wildcats20;782366 wrote:lol No I'm saying that Westbrook is a 2 playing the 1.

  
  Oh lol.
  
  I thought you were being a smartass about Thabo being better haha
• hoops23

  

  wildcats20;782366 wrote:lol No I'm saying that Westbrook is a 2 playing the 1.

  
  True, but remember, Westbrook was thrown into the PG spot after NEVER playing it before. It's hard to change mentality.
• Hb31187

  

  hoops23;782368 wrote:Regardless, there was truth to the rumors, so again, people were allowed to discuss the matter. Stop being an idiot..

  
  Lol do you guys just find reasons to start shit with him?
• wildcats20

  

  hoops23;782372 wrote:True, but remember, Westbrook was thrown into the PG spot after NEVER playing it before. It's hard to change mentality.

  
  Oh I know. And Westbrook really wants to prove that he is a PG too.
  
  I just have a feeling if he was a 2, he would be just as good.
• hoops23

  

  Hb31187;782373 wrote:Lol do you guys just find reasons to start shit with him?

  
  Oh please. He takes subtle jabs such as the previous one with CP3 rumors and acts like Cavs fans just take shit and run with it... I was simply telling him that there was truth to the rumors so there was no issue with them being discussed.
  
  If you want to back him up, that's fine, but don't act like he's not doing shit.
• Hb31187

  

  hoops23;782377 wrote:Oh please. He takes subtle jabs such as the previous one with CP3 rumors and acts like Cavs fans just take shit and run with it... I was simply telling him that there was truth to the rumors so there was no issue with them being discussed.
  
  If you want to back him up, that's fine, but don't act like he's not doing shit.

  Im not backing anyone up, Just get sick of most of the threads being everyone vs Dynasty or everyone Vs Boss because it gets really really annoying to read. Thats all
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782368 wrote:Regardless, there was truth to the rumors, so again, people were allowed to discuss the matter. Stop being an idiot..

  
  Show me a legit reporter who mentioned it as being slightly realistic. Cavs fans threw it around. There was no substance. The Lakers rumored offer was Bynum, Odom and picks if I remember correctly. The Cavs couldn't touch that.
• hoops23

  

  Hb31187;782379 wrote:Im not backing anyone up, Just get sick of most of the threads being everyone vs Dynasty or everyone Vs Boss because it gets really really annoying to read. Thats all

  
  Well I get sick of seeing the shit they post every day in a teams thread that they have no interest in.
• Mulva

  

  Hb31187;782379 wrote:Im not backing anyone up, Just get sick of most of the threads being everyone vs Dynasty or everyone Vs Boss because it gets really really annoying to read. Thats all

  
  I agree. Same story different day.
  
  Get the fuck over it.
• Hb31187

  

  In this case id agree.
  
  But 1/2 the shit with Sq/Boss was in a Heat/Nba thread but people cant let shit go so it turns into 30 page arguments.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782382 wrote:Show me a legit reporter who mentioned it as being slightly realistic. Cavs fans threw it around. There was no substance. The Lakers rumored offer was Bynum, Odom and picks if I remember correctly. The Cavs couldn't touch that.

  
  Again, it doesn't matter IF the Cavs offer was as good or not, the fact is it was offered. Cavs fans discussed the issue.
  
  Again, you're being ignorant about the situation. ANY teams fans will talk about a rumor involving another superstar coming to their team.
• Hb31187

  

  But back to what was being discussed....If the Thunder for some reason have actually offered this trade, The Cavs should accept it riiiight away. Westbrook is a star, and this draft is anything but special
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;782358 wrote:Harden has 3 years left and as a team they are WAY under the cap. Both guys are under 22 so there is zero chance they trade either.

  
  Well, there were rumors a few years ago about a possible trade. I heard Windy mention James Harden name on the radio. I know that you think you always have the answers but in this case you might be wrong. They were open to trading him in the past, who's to say they wouldnt be open to it again. 3 years is a loooong time in the NBA
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782377 wrote:Oh please. He takes subtle jabs such as the previous one with CP3 rumors and acts like Cavs fans just take shit and run with it... I was simply telling him that there was truth to the rumors so there was no issue with them being discussed.
  
  If you want to back him up, that's fine, but don't act like he's not doing shit.

  So someone on a Cleveland radio station throws out a unrealistic trade and we are supposed to just run with it? That's fucking dumb. I'd never repeat half the bullshit some of the morons in Columbus mention on the radio.
  
  Westbrook will not be traded. It's dumb to suggest it.
  
  And the Chris Paul rumors on here were equally as dumb. Again, show me a credible reporter who supports your claim.
• hoops23

  

  Hb31187;782401 wrote:But back to what was being discussed....If the Thunder for some reason have actually offered this trade, The Cavs should accept it riiiight away. Westbrook is a star, and this draft is anything but special

  
  No way the Cavs get Westbrook unless OKC feels that Kyrie Irving is going to be a better fit in terms of being a facilitator.. Irving is a much better creater.
  
  However, I don't see OKC moving Harden nor Westbrook. I think they continue to move on with this team and add the pieces.. I do think they look at moving Perkins.
• Hb31187

  

  hoops23;782413 wrote:No way the Cavs get Westbrook unless OKC feels that Kyrie Irving is going to be a better fit in terms of being a facilitator.. Irving is a much better creater.
  
  However, I don't see OKC moving Harden nor Westbrook. I think they continue to move on with this team and add the pieces.. I do think they look at moving Perkins.

  
  Yeah I agree that Irving is def a better pure PG, But Westbrook is a rare talent and id honestly be kinda shocked if they move him. So idk where this rumor is coming from
  
  Their core should be untouchable if i were the gm(Harden, Durant, Ibaka and Westbrook). Wouldnt be shocked to see them move Perk, he doesnt really fit with the uptempo style they run, and hes overpaid IMO.
• robj55

  

  Hb31187;782373 wrote:Lol do you guys just find reasons to start shit with him?

  
  yes they do, because he has a differing opinion and insight than they have as cavs fans
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782412 wrote:So someone on a Cleveland radio station throws out a unrealistic trade and we are supposed to just run with it? That's fucking dumb. I'd never repeat half the bullshit some of the morons in Columbus mention on the radio.
  
  Westbrook will not be traded. It's dumb to suggest it.
  
  And the Chris Paul rumors on here were equally as dumb. Again, show me a credible reporter who supports your claim.

  
  LOL.
  
  Just give it up. Seriously. If you don't like the fact that we discuss shit about our team here's a novel idea, GTFO of our thread?
  
  I'm not going to spend a second looking up something you could find yourself by doing a google search or something, because I don't really care to. It's done and over with, maybe you should get over it?
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782400 wrote:Again, it doesn't matter IF the Cavs offer was as good or not, the fact is it was offered. Cavs fans discussed the issue.
  
  Again, you're being ignorant about the situation. ANY teams fans will talk about a rumor involving another superstar coming to their team.

  
  Proof of this offer? It's okay to discuss rumors if they are semi realistic. The Utah trade rumor was realistic and worth discussing. The Westbrook isn't.
  
  

  Hb31187;782401 wrote:But back to what was being discussed....If the Thunder for some reason have actually offered this trade, The Cavs should accept it riiiight away. Westbrook is a star, and this draft is anything but special

  
  He's not being traded. That's just media talk.
  

  KR1245;782408 wrote:Well, there were rumors a few years ago about a possible trade. I heard Windy mention James Harden name on the radio. I know that you think you always have the answers but in this case you might be wrong. They were open to trading him in the past, who's to say they wouldnt be open to it again. 3 years is a loooong time in the NBA

  
  When they had Green it was more realistic because one of them was expendable for a big. Since they moved Green they will hold onto Harden. Especially after he played well in the playoffs.
• hoops23

  

  Hb31187;782419 wrote:Yeah I agree that Irving is def a better pure PG, But Westbrook is a rare talent and id honestly be kinda shocked if they move him. So idk where this rumor is coming from
  
  Their core should be untouchable if i were the gm(Harden, Durant, Ibaka and Westbrook). Wouldnt be shocked to see them move Perk, he doesnt really fit with the uptempo style they run, and hes overpaid IMO.

  
  Completely agree. OKC is in a situation that I hope the Cavs find themselves in down the road. 2 legit players and 2 very good ones in Harden and Ibaka. I also agree completely about Perk. He's overpaid and I was shocked that they traded Jeff Green. I didn't like the trade for either team... IMO, with Green, OKC makes it a series with Dallas.
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782422 wrote:LOL.
  
  Just give it up. Seriously. If you don't like the fact that we discuss shit about our team here's a novel idea, GTFO of our thread?
  
  I'm not going to spend a second looking up something you could find yourself by doing a google search or something, because I don't really care to. It's done and over with, maybe you should get over it?

  
  See I never called you an "idiot" just because I disagree with you. So you can gtfo if you can't handle others opinions.
  
  And I did a google search and nothing came up. So quit acting like Paul to Cleveland was realistic without some proof.
• KR1245

  

  Are you saying that the Cavs never tried to acquire Chris Paul? Those were all rumors?
• KR1245

  

  robj55;782420 wrote:yes they do, because he has a differing opinion and insight than they have as cavs fans

  
  Are you guys brothers or something? You seem to have taken quite a liking to the guy
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;782437 wrote:Are you saying that the Cavs never tried to acquire Chris Paul? Those were all rumors?

  
  I'm saying there were never talks between the teams worth mentioning. The Cavs probably "tried to acquire" Carmelo too.