2011 Cleveland Cavalier Offseason/Draft

• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782436 wrote:See I never called you an "idiot" just because I disagree with you. So you can gtfo if you can't handle others opinions.
  
  And I did a google search and nothing came up. So quit acting like Paul to Cleveland was realistic without some proof.

  
  I can handle each others opinions, but taking shots isn't an opinion. It's you trying to rile people up like you always do.
  
  And again, who the hell said it was realistic? That's why you're an idiot. You can't comprehend anything I've said in the last few posts. Just because they were LEGIT offers that the Cavs were INQUIRING about CP3 doesn't mean it was realistic to happen. What it does mean though, is that the fans can discuss it.
  
  Seriously, just give it up. You're starting to look foolish.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782442 wrote:I'm saying there were never talks between the teams worth mentioning. The Cavs probably "tried to acquire" Carmelo too.

  
  Why weren't they worth mentioning? Because YOU think so? LMAO. Who the fuck are you? It's something to discuss.
• robj55

  

  KR1245;782439 wrote:Are you guys brothers or something? You seem to have taken quite a liking to the guy

  
  no it's just stupid that people attack others because they don't agree with what they have to say, I can see making your argument but calling someone an idiot or calling them out all the time is childish to me. There are a lot of chest beaters on here who think they know way more than what they probably do, Dynasty makes some good arguments and knows what he is talking about.
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782443 wrote:I can handle each others opinions, but taking shots isn't an opinion. It's you trying to rile people up like you always do.
  
  And again, who the hell said it was realistic? That's why you're an idiot. You can't comprehend anything I've said in the last few posts. Just because they were LEGIT offers that the Cavs were INQUIRING about CP3 doesn't mean it was realistic to happen. What it does mean though, is that the fans can discuss it.
  
  Seriously, just give it up. You're starting to look foolish.

  
  So after you come up with nothing on your google search you backtrack. Comical. A LEGIT offer is an offer that both teams consider. And if you admit it was never realistic then why discuss it?
  
  Let's discuss Durant to Cleveland then well.
  
  BTW there is absolutely nothing on google about Westbrook to Cleveland.
• dave

  looks like a junior high arguement here.
  
  any rumors on players that might be acquired with the trade exception since memphis said gay wasn't available?
• thedynasty1998

  

  And where on here did I take a "shot" at anyone?
• KR1245

  

  robj55;782448 wrote:no it's just stupid that people attack others because they don't agree with what they have to say, I can see making your argument but calling someone an idiot or calling them out all the time is childish to me. There are a lot of chest beaters on here who think they know way more than what they probably do, Dynasty makes some good arguments and knows what he is talking about.

  
  Great, so do most of the Cavs fans on this site
• thedynasty1998

  

  dave;782456 wrote:looks like a junior high arguement here.
  
  any rumors on players that might be acquired with the trade exception since memphis said gay wasn't available?

  
  The Mid Morning Show in Portsmouth said Dwight Howard. Let's discuss....
• robj55

  

  KR1245;782459 wrote:Great, so do most of the Cavs fans on this site

  
  Then why do they have to attack someone who has a differing opinion, I feel a lot of them are very insecure about the whole thing, way too sensitive.
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;782453 wrote:So after you come up with nothing on your google search you backtrack. Comical. A LEGIT offer is an offer that both teams consider. And if you admit it was never realistic then why discuss it?
  
  Let's discuss Durant to Cleveland then well.
  
  BTW there is absolutely nothing on google about Westbrook to Cleveland.

  
  Why the hell not? Who are you to tell people what they should or should not discuss?
  
  Go check out the forums for any NBA team around the deadline. They are FLOODED trade rumors, why do you have such a problem with this?
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782453 wrote:So after you come up with nothing on your google search you backtrack. Comical. A LEGIT offer is an offer that both teams consider. And if you admit it was never realistic then why discuss it?
  
  Let's discuss Durant to Cleveland then well.
  
  BTW there is absolutely nothing on google about Westbrook to Cleveland.

  
  Back track? I never back tracked on anything. You said there were no rumors about the Cavs looking at CP3. The fact is, the Cavs did offer a deal for CP3. I said whether the deal would realistically happen or not, it was worth discussing.
  
  You feel that fans shouldn't discuss ANYTHING about their team, apparently.
  
  Why would we discuss Durant to Cleveland? No team has INQUIRED about that deal. [inquire - to seek information by questioning; ask: to inquire about a person.]
  
  I mean honestly, you are on here acting like people can't discuss something unless it's set in stone?
  
  Now that is comical.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782463 wrote:The Mid Morning Show in Portsmouth said Dwight Howard. Let's discuss....

  
  Here's another one of your subtle shots and another post that basically thread shits.
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;782467 wrote:Why the hell not? Who are you to tell people what they should or should not discuss?
  
  Go check out the forums for any NBA team around the deadline. They are FLOODED trade rumors, why do you have such a problem with this?

  
  If it's realistic I'll discuss it all day. The Paul one just wasn't. That's a fact. You think anyone in New Orleans was discussing Paul to Cleveland?
  
  Like I said the Utah rumor out there around Millsap and Heyward is worth mentioning because it makes some sense.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782474 wrote:If it's realistic I'll discuss it all day. The Paul one just wasn't. That's a fact. You think anyone in New Orleans was discussing Paul to Cleveland?
  
  Like I said the Utah rumor out there around Millsap and Heyward is worth mentioning because it makes some sense.

  
  But again, nobody gives a shit what you want to discuss because we don't care.
  
  We'll discuss what we, as Cavs fans, want to discuss. If you don't like it, make your own thread with possibilities that only happen. Ok?
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782469 wrote:Back track? I never back tracked on anything. You said there were no rumors about the Cavs looking at CP3. The fact is, the Cavs did offer a deal for CP3.

  
  Show me where it's a fact that there was an offer. I've yet to see that and that's my point.
• thedynasty1998

  

  hoops23;782477 wrote:But again, nobody gives a shit what you want to discuss because we don't care.
  
  We'll discuss what we, as Cavs fans, want to discuss. If you don't like it, make your own thread with possibilities that only happen. Ok?

  
  You've certainly cared enough to reply to me. And I'll await where it's a fact that the Cavs made an offer for Paul. If you can't prove it, you lose credibility. It's funny because my credibility is fine. Whether you agree with my opinion or not is fine but I do not make stuff up on here just for the hell of it.
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;782481 wrote:Show me where it's a fact that there was an offer. I've yet to see that and that's my point.

  
  I dont know what the details of the conversation were but this is something I took from a Windy article:
  
  Q: Hey, Brian: I saw rumors a week ago that the Cavs attempted to trade with New Orleans for Chris Paul. Do you know the offer details? Was New Orleans simply not giving him up for anything the Cavs could throw at them? --Kyle, Columbus
  
  A: Hey, Kyle: Paul is not available and the Hornets have said it over and over. Teams, including the Cavs, called to see
  
  Now, I'm going to assume that the Cavs didnt just say "hey, is the guys available"? I'm sure they had some sort of proposal when they called to check on his availability.
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;782502 wrote:I dont know what the details of the conversation were but this is something I took from a Windy article:
  
  Q: Hey, Brian: I saw rumors a week ago that the Cavs attempted to trade with New Orleans for Chris Paul. Do you know the offer details? Was New Orleans simply not giving him up for anything the Cavs could throw at them? --Kyle, Columbus
  
  A: Hey, Kyle: Paul is not available and the Hornets have said it over and over. Teams, including the Cavs, called to see
  
  Now, I'm going to assume that the Cavs didnt just say "hey, is the guys available"? I'm sure they had some sort of proposal when they called to check on his availability.

  
  Nice edit job. Way to cut the sentence. You look like a idiot because I was about to post that same link. Just read on and my point is made.
  
  http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/how_close_were_the_cleveland_c.html
  
  What a joke.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782489 wrote:You've certainly cared enough to reply to me. And I'll await where it's a fact that the Cavs made an offer for Paul. If you can't prove it, you lose credibility. It's funny because my credibility is fine. Whether you agree with my opinion or not is fine but I do not make stuff up on here just for the hell of it.

  
  You also keep replying to me, so that was a pointless rebuttal. And honestly, who do you have credibility with? Every thread it seems like you're arguing with somebody. I never really pay you any mind because I don't care. But it does get tiring to see you on Cavs threads continually thread shitting like you've done here.
  
  But as far as my "credibility" on an internet message board, well, if I cared about that then my life has failed me... So if that's what you need to keep on going, then by all means, be as credible as possible on the OC.... lol
  
  As far as the CP3 rumor, I don't need to provide anything. Everybody on here knows that the Cavs were looking at CP3. That's what we discussed.
  
  I don't remember anybody saying it was going to actually happen or that CP3 would be our opening day PG.
  
  Again, for the last time, if you DON'T like what we discuss, make your own thread and discuss what you'd like to discuss on that one.
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;782489 wrote:You've certainly cared enough to reply to me. And I'll await where it's a fact that the Cavs made an offer for Paul. If you can't prove it, you lose credibility. It's funny because my credibility is fine. Whether you agree with my opinion or not is fine but I do not make stuff up on here just for the hell of it.

  Q: Hey, Brian: I saw rumors a week ago that the Cavs attempted to trade with New Orleans for Chris Paul. Do you know the offer details? Was New Orleans simply not giving him up for anything the Cavs could throw at them? --Kyle, Columbus
  
  A: Hey, Kyle: Paul is not available and the Hornets have said it over and over. Teams, including the Cavs, called to see and the answer was no. Last week the Hornets fired their general manager in part, some believe, because he was just kicking the tires on Paul's value. As it stands now, the only way Paul is getting out of there is by demanding a trade.

  
  
  You can take that for what its worth but like I just said. I highly doubt that the Cavs would go calling unless they had some sort of proposal on the table. The Hornets said no thanks but it seems as though the Cavs reached out to the Hornets.
• thedynasty1998

  

  For those who wanted to read the entire sentence reads as: "Teams, including the Cavs, called to see and the answer was no"
  
  I rest my case. No offer was made. It's not a "fact".
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;782508 wrote:Nice edit job. Way to cut the sentence. You look like a idiot because I was about to post that same link. Just read on and my point is made.
  
  http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/how_close_were_the_cleveland_c.html
  
  What a joke.

  I just posted the whole damn thing. It cut off, I have no problem showing the entire portion of the article.
  
  Do you honestly think the Cavs just called up to see if he was available? You dont think they had any sort of proposal on the table? Dont be ignorant
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782508 wrote:Nice edit job. Way to cut the sentence. You look like a idiot because I was about to post that same link. Just read on and my point is made.
  
  http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/how_close_were_the_cleveland_c.html
  
  What a joke.

  
  Oh no, now you're name calling after he provided proof that the Cavs did inquire. SMH.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;782518 wrote:For those who wanted to read the entire sentence reads as: "Teams, including the Cavs, called to see and the answer was no"
  
  I rest my case. No offer was made. It's not a "fact".

  
  Wait, so you don't think the Cavs called and said "Hey, this is what we got, what do you think?".. Or "Hey, this is what we can offer for CP3, is he available?"...
  
  Because I do remember something about Mo/Andy/JJ/draft pick for Emeka/CP3 floating around.. Again though, that's the fun part about the trade deadline is discussing "what ifs" and rumors...
  
  You're just being douchey as usual, dynasty, so it's nothing new.
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;782512 wrote:You can take that for what its worth but like I just said. I highly doubt that the Cavs would go calling unless they had some sort of proposal on the table. The Hornets said no thanks but it seems as though the Cavs reached out to the Hornets.

  
  You are stretching. And there's no need to support hoops23's false claims. It was NEVER a reality. Just as Westbrook isn't a reality.
  
  I proved my point.