Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1027581 wrote:Luck could start right out of the shoot and would be better than anything they've had, easily, since 1999.

  
  With this receiving core as it is, luck wouldn't take them to an 11-5 record..sorry
• shook_17

  

  SportsAndLady;1027595 wrote:With this receiving core as it is, luck wouldn't take them to an 11-5 record..sorry

  lol did you see lucks wide recievers this year?
• shook_17

  

  BR1986FB;1027580 wrote:Here are the WR free agents. This is why I'm saying Blackmon isn't a necessity with their first pick. The WR corps is already "green" so they don't need to use a top pick on it and put all of that pressure on him. They need a proven vet who can teach these young guys (Little, Norwood, MoMass...if they keep him) the nuances of the game.
  
  http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/fa/wr.html

  i really like the wide recievers in the free agent group this year.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1027595 wrote:With this receiving core as it is, luck wouldn't take them to an 11-5 record..sorry

  That's the GREAT part about it....the receiving corps WON'T be the same as it was this year. Heckert will upgrade.
  
  What I find funny is that some people think that drafting a QB with that first pick is an 'all or nothing' situation. "OMG...if they take a QB they WON'T be able to get ANY playmakers (WR's/RB's)" like there's some unwritten rule that all of the WR's/RB's will be gone by the time their second 1st/2nd rounder rolls around.
  
  Oh yeah, there's also now a new league rule that EVERYONE but the Browns are permitted to participate in free agency so the Browns won't be able to get any weapons there either. :rolleyes:
• BR1986FB

  shook_17;1027600 wrote:i really like the wide recievers in the free agent group this year.

  Garcon could be a darkhorse in that group. A lot of those guys (Mike Wallace, etc) likely won't see free agency but wouldn't it be a kick in the nuts if they could swipe him from the Steelers?
• Crimson streak

  

  Garçon would be perfect fit for this offense. He is a speedy guy who is very good in the open field. Hopefully he would come back to ne Ohio, but I doubt he even hits free agency. Another name I really like is colston. He is another great fit for this offense. Hell I would even take d jax.
• ohiobucks1

  

  Crimson streak;1027609 wrote:Garçon would be perfect fit for this offense. He is a speedy guy who is very good in the open field. Hopefully he would come back to ne Ohio, but I doubt he even hits free agency. Another name I really like is colston. He is another great fit for this offense. Hell I would even take d jax.

  No chance in hell he'd come to Cleveland. He seems like the type that would tell his agent no to various cities
• BR1986FB

  ohiobucks1;1027611 wrote:No chance in hell he'd come to Cleveland. He seems like the type that would tell his agent no to various cities

  Not so sure about that. Heckert drafted him so there's familiarity there. Plus money talks.
• ohiobucks1

  

  BR1986FB;1027613 wrote:Not so sure about that. Heckert drafted him so there's familiarity there. Plus money talks.

  
  I actually would love for him to join the Browns but I just can't see it happening. Hope I'm wrong.
• BR1986FB

  ohiobucks1;1027615 wrote:I actually would love for him to join the Browns but I just can't see it happening. Hope I'm wrong.

  Don't get me wrong, they won't get him for a bargain if they do. They will have to overpay. Likely more than other teams would overpay.
• like_that

  

  Not sure how I feel about Desean. I would definitely like his talent on the field, being able to stretch the field with his speed, but he can also be a team cancer. During adverse times (let's be honest there is a lot with cleveland), I can see him bitching, causing a scene, and just making everything worse.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1027601 wrote:That's the GREAT part about it....the receiving corps WON'T be the same as it was this year. Heckert will upgrade.
  
  What I find funny is that some people think that drafting a QB with that first pick is an 'all or nothing' situation. "OMG...if they take a QB they WON'T be able to get ANY playmakers (WR's/RB's)" like there's some unwritten rule that all of the WR's/RB's will be gone by the time their second 1st/2nd rounder rolls around.
  
  Oh yeah, there's also now a new league rule that EVERYONE but the Browns are permitted to participate in free agency so the Browns won't be able to get any weapons there either. :rolleyes:

  
  They'd have to trade up to get luck so there goes their other first round pick..prolly their second rounder too. So we gonna continue to add weapons in the third round and beyond?
  
  The Browns don't get big time free agents, so its not like thy can just say okay we'll grab Vincent Jackson.
  
  Again...im not against taking luck or even rg3. But you better not be ready to compete until 2013 cuz no way does a rookie qb come in and go 11-5 in this division with these receivers. Hell look at Newton and Carolina this year..7-9 at best and they have all those weapons..you really think rg3 or even luck is gonna put up those type of numbers with our receivers/coaches? Nope. And even if they do put up the stats, they're not gonna put up the wins, especially in our division.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1027659 wrote:The Browns don't get big time free agents, so its not like thy can just say okay we'll grab Vincent Jackson.

  The nice thing about this is that we'll know PRIOR to the draft whether they'll get these "big time' targets or not. Free agency is in February and the draft is in April. So if the Browns grab two free agent WR's we'll have an idea of where they may go in the draft.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1027662 wrote:The nice thing about this is that we'll know PRIOR to the draft whether they'll get these "big time' targets or not. Free agency is in February and the draft is in April. So if the Browns grab two free agent WR's we'll have an idea of where they may go in the draft.

  
  True..it was different this year right? Cuz of the lockout?
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1027662 wrote:The nice thing about this is that we'll know PRIOR to the draft whether they'll get these "big time' targets or not. Free agency is in February and the draft is in April. So if the Browns grab two free agent WR's we'll have an idea of where they may go in the draft.

  Good point. It's nice to know FA won't be the cluster fuck FA it was this past "off season."
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1027664 wrote:True..it was different this year right? Cuz of the lockout?

  Yes. If they grab a couple of WR's in free agency it could tip their hand that they won't be taking Blackmon, may be taking a QB or RB, etc if they decide to load up on offense. If they DO grab these WR's, you can bet there will be some teams pissing their pants wanting to trade up and leapfrog them for a QB.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1027666 wrote:Good point. It's nice to know FA won't be the cluster fuck FA it was this past "off season."

  Yeah...last year was "fun" in the "I'm a football fan" sense but not so much in the "I'm a BROWNS football fan" sense since they didn't do shit. I like the old format (FA first, draft second) better.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1027674 wrote:Yes. If they grab a couple of WR's in free agency it could tip their hand that they won't be taking Blackmon, may be taking a QB or RB, etc if they decide to load up on offense. If they DO grab these WR's, you can bet there will be some teams pissing their pants wanting to trade up and leapfrog them for a QB.

  
  Yeah I mean obviously if the Browns add 2 legit free agent WRs then I would be thrilled with taking a QB with their first pick...but come on this is Cleveland lol we are not that lucky...
• like_that

  

  I would be happy with just 1 FA WR.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1027678 wrote:Yeah I mean obviously if the Browns add 2 legit free agent WRs then I would be thrilled with taking a QB with their first pick...but come on this is Cleveland lol we are not that lucky...

  We also haven't had a legit/qualified GM like Heckert since the return. I thought Savage might be that guy but he was a flake. I think after this season of "evaluating", they know that they have to add weapons at WR. This article is very telling on their need for receiving/playmaking weapons. Plus the Rats cheerleader in the pic has a nice rack....
  
  http://cle.scout.com/2/1142139.html
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1027682 wrote:I would be happy with just 1 FA WR.

  And this is more likely what they do. If they can get a #1 type target in here I think that Greg Little's production skyrockets. Right now he's the #1 option and has all the pressure. Remember MoMass when he had Braylon to take a little of the pressure off him? Granted, Braylon couldn't catch a cold but he was that vertical "threat" that freed up looks for Mo. A legit #1 WR would do the same for Little.
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1027683 wrote:We also haven't had a legit/qualified GM like Heckert since the return. I thought Savage might be that guy but he was a flake. I think after this season of "evaluating", they know that they have to add weapons at WR. This article is very telling on their need for receiving/playmaking weapons. Plus the Rats cheerleader in the pic has a nice rack....
  
  http://cle.scout.com/2/1142139.html

  The comments to this article reminded me the Browns need a RT. Fatshos is just god awful.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1027683 wrote:We also haven't had a legit/qualified GM like Heckert since the return. I thought Savage might be that guy but he was a flake. I think after this season of "evaluating", they know that they have to add weapons at WR. This article is very telling on their need for receiving/playmaking weapons. Plus the Rats cheerleader in the pic has a nice rack....
  
  http://cle.scout.com/2/1142139.html

  
  Just call me skeptical I guess..I just don't think a GM is going to convince a bunch of free agents to come here, but we'll see I guess..
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1027687 wrote:The comments to this article reminded me the Browns need a RT. Fatshos is just god awful.

  You'd be surprised how many people over there defend Pashos as "not that bad."
• SportsAndLady

  

  like_that;1027687 wrote:The comments to this article reminded me the Browns need a RT. Fatshos is just god awful.

  
  Yeah we have so many needs I just can't see them trading up for Luck.