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Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

  • DeyDurkie5
    he's not as bad as you think, is all im saying
  • BR1986FB
    He's not as good (worth wasting another year on) as some of you think, is all I'm saying.
  • DeyDurkie5
    BR1986FB;1025079 wrote:He's not as good (worth wasting another year on) as some of you think, is all I'm saying.
    if colt is around, gets weapons, and takes us to teh playoffs, will you buy me a steak dinner and give me control of your avatar for the duration of the playoffs?
  • BR1986FB
    DeyDurkie5;1025087 wrote:if colt is around, gets weapons, and takes us to teh playoffs, will you buy me a steak dinner and give me control of your avatar for the duration of the playoffs?
    You won't have to worry about that because if he's the QB of the team I may not be watching. His game is unbearable to watch to me.
  • DeyDurkie5
    BR1986FB;1025093 wrote:You won't have to worry about that because if he's the QB of the team I may not be watching. His game is unbearable to watch to me.
    soooooo...yes you agree?
  • Sonofanump
    Who is able to give the Colts these three first rounders taht they might demand? I would not give up much more than the 4th (or 5th) and 21st (Atl) to land him. Who would be able to give them more, would team give up their first round picks in the next three drafts?
  • buckeyes_woowee
    If the Browns do make a move on a QB, what would they be able to get for McCoy? I'm thinking a 3rd rounder?
  • BR1986FB
    Sonofanump;1025171 wrote:Who is able to give the Colts these three first rounders taht they might demand? I would not give up much more than the 4th (or 5th) and 21st (Atl) to land him. Who would be able to give them more, would team give up their first round picks in the next three drafts?
    I don't think the Colts would trade the pick but I think the Rams would. I'd think a team would want more "bang" immediately which is why the Browns two 1st rounders would be tempting.

    I think a team would want a helluva lot more compensation if they had to wait until 2013 & 2014 for the rest of the 1st rounders.
  • BR1986FB
    buckeyes_woowee;1025181 wrote:If the Browns do make a move on a QB, what would they be able to get for McCoy? I'm thinking a 3rd rounder?
    Doubtful. Likely 4th or 5th BUT, if the Colts were willing to part with the #1 then McCoy could be tossed in the package as Manning's backup/QB in waiting.
  • buckeyes_woowee
    BR1986FB;1025184 wrote:Doubtful. Likely 4th or 5th BUT, if the Colts were willing to part with the #1 then McCoy could be tossed in the package as Manning's backup/QB in waiting.
    Colt to the Colts???? Seems fitting.
  • Mulva
    DeyDurkie5;1025054 wrote:10. Judging McCoy: As the debate swirls about whether Colt McCoy should be the Browns' quarterback of the future, it's worth keeping in mind a couple of issues. Had Cleveland's defense and special teams not squandered a 10-point third-quarter lead against the Bengals in Week 12, and had Phil Dawson connected on a chip-shot, game-winning field-goal attempt against the Rams in Week 10, then McCoy would have been a respectable 6-7 in his 13 starts and his support would have been greater than it is now.
    I love Schefter, but that's bullshit. If we're going to take in mind those issues, let's consider these ones too.

    1. It's easy to "squander" a 10 point lead when the offense only puts up 3 points in the 2nd half.

    2. Had the defense not put up a last second goal line stand against Jacksonville, the Browns offense not put together what I would almost guarantee was literally it's best drive (80 yards an a TD) of the season in the final 3 minutes against Miami, and had Marshawn Lynch and Tavaris Jackson been healthy for Seattle instead of Whitehurst and Forsett, he could be a horrific 1-12 in his 13 starts and have 0 support at all.

    The "if this had happened" game is the stupidest thing out there in the NFL, because you could easily swing every team in the league's record by 3 games either way playing it.
  • BR1986FB
    Mulva;1025201 wrote:I love Schefter, but that's bullshit. If we're going to take in mind those issues, let's consider these ones too.

    1. It's easy to "squander" a 10 point lead when the offense only puts up 3 points in the 2nd half.

    2. Had the defense not put up a last second goal line stand against Jacksonville, the Browns offense not put together what I would almost guarantee was literally it's best drive (80 yards an a TD) of the season in the final 3 minutes against Miami, and had Marshawn Lynch and Tavaris Jackson been healthy for Seattle instead of Whitehurst and Forsett, he could be a horrific 1-12 in his 13 starts and have 0 support at all.

    The "if this had happened" game is the stupidest thing out there in the NFL, because you could easily swing every team in the league's record by 3 games either way playing it.
    Not to mention the phantom "illegal block in the back" call that got a punt return TD for Seattle called back.
  • Sonofanump
    BR1986FB;1025183 wrote:I don't think the Colts would trade the pick but I think the Rams would. I'd think a team would want more "bang" immediately which is why the Browns two 1st rounders would be tempting.

    I think a team would want a helluva lot more compensation if they had to wait until 2013 & 2014 for the rest of the 1st rounders.
    Look at the Irsay comments (could be a smoke screen but I doubt it since he has been the franchise the last dozen years). If Manning is healthy, he is staying in Indy.
  • Midstate01

    Saw this down in Waikiki tonight. Had to get a pic.. Go browns!!!
  • DeyDurkie5
    [h=3]DraftWatch: Browns move up again[/h] December, 25, 2011 Dec 25
    12:00
    PM ET


    By Jamison Hensley


    If the Cleveland Browns lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the regular-season finale, they are assured of a draft spot no worse than No. 4. Cleveland would move to No.3 if the Browns lost and the Minnesota Vikings beat the visiting Chicago Bears next Sunday.

    If the Browns upset the Steelers, they would likely fall out of the top 5.

    Here's the projected draft order, courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information:

    1. Colts (2-13)

    2. Rams (2-13)

    3. Vikings (3-12)

    4. Browns (4-11)

    5. Jaguars (4-11)

    6. Buccaneers (4-11)

    7. Redskins (5-10)

    8. Dolphins (5-10)

    9. Panthers (6-9)

    10. Bills (6-9)

    11. Chiefs (6-9)
  • BR1986FB
    Which if they were slotted at #3 would almost ensure that they'd have a shot at RG3 if Holmgren/Heckert fall in love with him.
  • zach24oz
    Is being at #3 close enough to trade up to the Colts to get Luck with a couple other picks? Indy could go ahead and take RGIII at 3 and have him learn under Manning. I dont think Indy would be too disappointed if that happened.
  • like_that
    BR1986FB;1026748 wrote:Which if they were slotted at #3 would almost ensure that they'd have a shot at RG3 if Holmgren/Heckert fall in love with him.
    Unless the Dolphins or Skins trade up to the Rams spot.
  • BR1986FB
    like_that;1026751 wrote:Unless the Dolphins or Skins trade up to the Rams spot.
    That's why I said "almost." ;) And if that's the case and the Browns want him, they still have more to offer than either of those teams without selling the farm.
  • like_that
    BR1986FB;1026755 wrote:That's why I said "almost." ;) And if that's the case and the Browns want him, they still have more to offer than either of those teams without selling the farm.
    Not sure if I like the idea of giving up the other first to move up 1 spot.
  • BR1986FB
    like_that;1026757 wrote:Not sure if I like the idea of giving up the other first to move up 1 spot.
    I don't know that they'd have to but I'm sure the Rams would want it.
  • like_that
    BR1986FB;1026760 wrote:I don't know that they'd have to but I'm sure the Rams would want it.
    It would all depend on if the redskins/dolphins raised their bids, which I think they would.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Can't wait for this draft. Going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

    Thinking about it realistically, I don't see how they don't draft RG3 in that spot. I don't like it, but I mean who else are you going to take?
  • like_that
    DeyDurkie5;1027192 wrote:Can't wait for this draft. Going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

    Thinking about it realistically, I don't see how they don't draft RG3 in that spot. I don't like it, but I mean who else are you going to take?
    A team might trade up for RGIII, or the Browns might be dumb as hell and take richardson.
  • DeyDurkie5
    like_that;1027195 wrote:A team might trade up for RGIII, or the Browns might be dumb as hell and take richardson.
    He will be a playmaker, so I wouldn't be as pissed off with that pick. If blackmon/richardson/rg3 are there, who do you take?