How Much Trouble Is OSU and Tressel in Now?!

• centralbucksfan

  jordo212000;708604 wrote:I'd say that the Feds cover/confidentiality was blown when the tattoo fiasco became public knowledge. Tress could have come forward at that time, but didn't.

  
  And thats where my issue is. But many are saying/claiming he knew back in April, why didn't he say something. And I think thats where the question comes in concering the Fed Investigation. No question, he fucked up in Dec. when it all came out and then didn't say anything.
• jordo212000

  

  ytownfootball;708612 wrote:you're so quotable today...excellent

  
  He should use F bombs and call people pea-brains, right?
• ytownfootball

  

  centralbucksfan;708615 wrote:And thats where my issue is. But many are saying/claiming he knew back in April, why didn't he say something. And I think thats where the question comes in concering the Fed Investigation. No question, he fucked up in Dec. when it all came out and then didn't say anything.

  
  There has to be another reason, why the sudden turnaround for having the most reported violations in the history of mankind? He didn't turn into a "win at all costs" scumbag overnight...that's where my issue lies.
• ytownfootball

  

  jordo212000;708622 wrote:He should use F bombs and call people pea-brains, right?

  
  grow some thicker skin and keep the lotion for your wee peen ya pussy
• thedynasty1998

  

  The Feds brought the tattoo thing to OSU, correct? At that time Tressel could have spoke up. And there have been several lawyers interviewed on this matter that stated Tressel wasn't required to keep quiet due to the federal investigation.
  
  This whole thing is obviously two issues.
  1. Why didn't Tressel alert someone of the emails
  2. He lied to the NCAA
  
  #2 is bad and is going to be punished more severely by the NCAA than what OSU self imposed.
  
  What develops from #1 is what will tell the fate of Tressel and answer most peoples questions Someone mentioned on here that Tressel was the AD at YSU, and I think that's a factor that can't be ignored. Tressel is as aware of compliance as anyone. For him to say he didn't know who to go to with the emails is just him simply hiding something.
• ytownfootball

  

  thedynasty1998;708638 wrote:The Feds brought the tattoo thing to OSU, correct? At that time Tressel could have spoke up. And there have been several lawyers interviewed on this matter that stated Tressel wasn't required to keep quiet due to the federal investigation.
  
  This whole thing is obviously two issues.
  1. Why didn't Tressel alert someone of the emails
  2. He lied to the NCAA
  
  #2 is bad and is going to be punished more severely by the NCAA than what OSU self imposed.
  
  What develops from #1 is what will tell the fate of Tressel and answer most peoples questions Someone mentioned on here that Tressel was the AD at YSU, and I think that's a factor that can't be ignored. Tressel is as aware of compliance as anyone. For him to say he didn't know who to go to with the emails is just him simply hiding something.

  
  Why do you continue to post as if what you are stating as opinion is fact?
• thedynasty1998

  

  ytownfootball;708643 wrote:Why do you continue to post as if what you are stating as opinion is fact?

  
  Why do you continue to post, yet bring absolutely nothing to the conversation?
• Little Danny

  

  CBF,
  
  I am not denying there is some overlap in the federal criminal investigation and Coach Tressel's duties as head football coach at the Ohio State University. The reason Ohio State has a compliance office and all of these attorneys who are employed and retained by them is to ensure the Ohio State University is protected from criminal and civil liability. In other words, it is Tress's responsibility to report it to them and it is their job to figure out how to A) use that information so not to endanger any pending investigation any other agency may be doing and b) to ensure that OSU protects itself from NCAA and any other civil penalties they may face.
  
  My point here is that by simply reporting this to the compliance office, Tress would have shifted any responsibility for any act or omission from his self to those individuals. If Tress did contact personal counsel, there is no way they would have told him not to act.
• ytownfootball

  

  thedynasty1998;708646 wrote:Why do you continue to post, yet bring absolutely nothing to the conversation?

  
  LOL...what exactly have you brought to the table?
  

  For him to say he didn't know who to go to with the emails is just him simply hiding something.

  bullshit dynasty...you don't know anything to be able to make this statement...
• thedynasty1998

  

  ytownfootball;708650 wrote:the emails you reference weren't from the feds...let's keep it factual

  
  What the fuck are you talking about? I never referenced any emails from the feds.
  
  And keep what factual? This is an internet message board. Most stuff on here is predictions, opinions and speculation. If you want the facts go watch the news and stay off of a message board. It's common sense.
  
  No need to reply unless you want to bring some relevance to the thread.
• sherm03

  

  Little Danny;708648 wrote:CBF,
  
  I am not denying there is some overlap in the federal criminal investigation and Coach Tressel's duties as head football coach at the Ohio State University. The reason Ohio State has a compliance office and all of these attorneys who are employed and retained by them is to ensure the Ohio State University is protected from criminal and civil liability. In other words, it is Tress's responsibility to report it to them and it is their job to figure out how to A) use that information so not to endanger any pending investigation any other agency may be doing and b) to ensure that OSU protects itself from NCAA and any other civil penalties they may face.

  
  Exactly. That's why OSU has a compliance department. That is where Tressel would have sent the information if he sent it anywhere. So why would he be taking the fall for a compliance officer?
• ytownfootball

  

  thedynasty1998;708654 wrote:What the fuck are you talking about? I never referenced any emails from the feds.
  
  And keep what factual? This is an internet message board. Most stuff on here is predictions, opinions and speculation. If you want the facts go watch the news and stay off of a message board. It's common sense.
  
  No need to reply unless you want to bring some relevance to the thread.

  
  

  The Feds brought the tattoo thing to OSU, correct?

  So did they have somebody jog 'em over or what?
• thedynasty1998

  

  ytownfootball;708661 wrote:So did they have somebody jog 'em over or what?

  
  Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
  
  The feds called OSU because they recovered a bunch of merchandise when they did the raid on the tattoo parlor. That's how everything came to surface.
  
  I said nothing about the feds and emails, and you look like a complete dipshit for trying to call me out on something that was never said.
• sportswizuhrd

  Sorry if this has already been posted....Possibly more trouble or someone who didn't do a very good job investigating? I havent checked out his links or sources due to being at work. I noticed he tweeted earlier that his sources said that Cicero sat down with ESPN's John Barr for a 2 and a half hour long interview, which I replied back with Was your source The Scott Van Pelt show? Spielman went on the SVP show and revealed this information because Cicero wanted to get his side of the story out(CS said he went to his ESPN bosses and said he would have rather had one of ESPN's interviewer's do the story).
  
  Scroll past the youtube link.
  
  http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/current-buckeyes-more-items-for-sale-found-29554
• sherm03

  

  ytownfootball;708661 wrote:So did they have somebody jog 'em over or what?

  Huh? Numerous articles have said that the agents investigating Rife brought the issue of the memorabilia that they seized to OSU's attention because they thought that the stuff might be stolen. That's when OSU started their investigation...and that's when JT could have come forward about the emails but chose not to.
• bigkahuna

  I haven't been following this that closely, but I think someone alerted Tressel of this.
  
  Then, the feds got involved because the tattoo people are shady drug people. They were investigating the parlor, found out about the players, and asked OSU if they knew about it?
  
  I'm replying to ytown speculating what dynasty is trying to say.
• ytownfootball

  

  thedynasty1998;708666 wrote:Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
  
  The feds called OSU because they recovered a bunch of merchandise when they did the raid on the tattoo parlor. That's how everything came to surface.
  
  I said nothing about the feds and emails, and you look like a complete dipshit for trying to call me out on something that was never said.

  
  You got dipshit down to a mutha effin science chief...ponder some more and give us some more of your insight...you are the greatest pontificater of prognosticators the wielder of unsubstantiated opinion contrary to facts.
  
  Why is it so hard for you to understand that Tressel may not have been given the ok to spout his knowledge of thing publicly without clearance by the feds? Why is that concept so unattainable for you? You can speculate all you want about what the fuck you think was ok for him to do in that instance but chief...you don't fucking know.
• sherm03

  

  sportswizuhrd;708667 wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted....Possibly more trouble or someone who didn't do a very good job investigating? I havent checked out his links or sources due to being at work. I noticed he tweeted earlier that his sources said that Cicero sat down with ESPN's John Barr for a 2 and a half hour long interview, which I replied back with Was your source The Scott Van Pelt show? Spielman went on the SVP show and revealed this information because Cicero wanted to get his side of the story out(CS said he went to his ESPN bosses and said he would have rather had one of ESPN's interviewer's do the story).
  
  Scroll past the youtube link.
  
  http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/current-buckeyes-more-items-for-sale-found-29554

  
  Yikes...
• sherm03

  

  ytownfootball;708680 wrote:You got dipshit down to a mutha effin science chief...ponder some more and give us some more of your insight...you are the greatest pontificater of prognosticators the wielder of unsubstantiated opinion contrary to facts.
  
  Why is it so hard for you to understand that Tressel may not have been given the ok to spout his knowledge of thing publicly without clearance by the feds? Why is that concept so unattainable for you? You can speculate all you want about what the fuck you think was ok for him to do in that instance but chief...you don't fucking know.

  
  Dude...chill out. My Lord! Dynasty is referring to the fact that if it was the agents that brought the stuff to the attention of OSU, why would Tressel not be able to say at that point, "Ya, I got an email about this in April but did not mention it because of your investigation." Instead, he didn't say anything.
  
  Why are you so upset at people for seeing this from a different perspective than you?
• Little Danny

  

  While I am on a roll, and before I fall asleep, let me discuss this whole thing about Confidentiality.
  
  I have seen and heard a lot of people the last few days confuse attorney-client privilege with a request from Cicero to keep the information he shared confidential. Attorney-Client privilege is a relationship one enters with an attorney whom they retain. For instance, you go to your lawyer and tell them you he robbed a bank and you are hiding over at the Motel Six. An hour later, the lawyer goes over to a bar and overhears other patrons speaking of the bank robbery. If the lawyer tells them, "Oh yeah, that was my client John Smith who robbed that bank", that attorney would be in violation of the attorney-client privilege. If under the same set of circumstance the lawyer goes over to the Motel Six and talks to the guy at the front desk and tells him the bank robber is in room 123 and by the way, keep this confidential, not only would the attorney be in violation of attorney client privilege, the guy at the front desk would not be under any obligation to keep the information confidential. It would in fact be appropriate for the front desk employee to contact his manager to let him know of the situation so that the appropriate steps can be taken (likely based on a policy that is established by the Motel Six).
• ytownfootball

  

  sherm03;708669 wrote:Huh? Numerous articles have said that the agents investigating Rife brought the issue of the memorabilia that they seized to OSU's attention because they thought that the stuff might be stolen. That's when OSU started their investigation...and that's when JT could have come forward about the emails but chose not to.

  
  The feds came to him, do you know what the specifics of that was? I don't. That's the point. No one knows what the specifics from them were. That's why I'll keep my pitch fork on the hook for now.
• ytownfootball

  

  sherm03;708683 wrote:Dude...chill out. My Lord! Dynasty is referring to the fact that if it was the agents that brought the stuff to the attention of OSU, why would Tressel not be able to say at that point, "Ya, I got an email about this in April but did not mention it because of your investigation." Instead, he didn't say anything.
  
  Why are you so upset at people for seeing this from a different perspective than you?

  
  Again, all we have are emails from a former walk on lol...not those from the feds or any transcripts of conversations with them.
• karen lotz

  

  sherm03;708683 wrote:Dude...chill out. My Lord! Dynasty is referring to the fact that if it was the agents that brought the stuff to the attention of OSU, why would Tressel not be able to say at that point, "Ya, I got an email about this in April but did not mention it because of your investigation." Instead, he didn't say anything.
  
  Why are you so upset at people for seeing this from a different perspective than you?

  
  
  FUCK YOU PEA BRAIN!
• ytownfootball

  

  karen lotz;708693 wrote:FUCK YOU PEA BRAIN!

  
  oh waaa, somebody hurt you feelings? Don't act all high horsey lotz, you can't pull it off
• centralbucksfan

  sherm03;708656 wrote:Exactly. That's why OSU has a compliance department. That is where Tressel would have sent the information if he sent it anywhere. So why would he be taking the fall for a compliance officer?

  
  Your not following my line of reasoning, possible reasoning.
  Once Tressel got the emails, he forwarded to his personal lawyer, asking what to do. Because at that time, it was a Federal Drug Investigation, maybe his lawyer advised him not to do anything. Maybe his personal lawyer got in touch with the FEDS, and they relayed not to go anywhere with this information for fear it could blow up the investigation, and possibly cause harm to the players involved. Thus Tressel sat on the situation, but continuing to email Cisiro to keep tabs on players and situation as much as he could. If this were the situation, his hands could have easily been tied.