How Much Trouble Is OSU and Tressel in Now?!

• karen lotz

  

  pmoney25;708509 wrote:If this was posted already sorry, I m not reading 40 pages of this

  
  
  Change your settings to show 50 posts per page, then you only have 20 pages to read
• centralbucksfan

  pmoney25;708509 wrote:If this was posted already sorry, I m not reading 40 pages of this
  
  But the Lawyer said that once he sent the email to Tressel, that Tressel replied that he would take care of it ASAP. He also said that when he meant confidential, he meant confidential from the Media/Public not the University/NCAA. And now this guy is actually receiving death threats and being labeled a "Judas" What an embarrassment. This is a freaking football team and coach we are talking about and people are going this crazy about it.
  
  As an Ohio State fan, I am one who can think rationally and understand that Tressel F'd up big time and now has to pay the piper. A lot of these so called OSU fans are the same ones who laughed at USC or laughed at Michigan or any other school who got caught but now can't swallow the pill once our team gets busted as not being squeaky clean.
  
  Tress got caught lying, plain and simple. yes we all make mistakes and no one is perfect but sometimes you have to take accountability instead of pleading ignorance.

  
  Lets not go overboard. I don't think there is ONE SINGLE OSU fan saying Tressel is innocent or didn't hide something. He obviously did. As far as your comment about Cicero the Lawyer..HE IS THE ONE WHO SAID HE WASN'T Judas...no one is or has called him that! Death threats? Who knows..thats what he is claiming. Check out his past...he is as shadey as they come.
• jordo212000

  

  After reading the last couple of pages, I am starting to agree with Common Man and the Torg. There are simply some Buckeye fans who would be taking up for Tress and defending him to the death even if he walked into the press conference and said that he just murdered somebody with an ax.
  
  Some of the posts I have been reading are just mind-numbing. Take the emotion out of it guys. Tress screwed up and he screwed up big. And on top of it, he treated us all like we were 9 years old at the press conference. Him trying to pull the wool over our eyes with that "confidentiality" BS was a complete joke. There was two weeks before the lawyer said "hey don't tell anybody this"
• centralbucksfan

  thedynasty1998;708515 wrote:I agree, however, even if he did forward the emails, it's irrelevant. So, for the conspiracy theorists who think he sent them to Gene Smith, well he is apparently taking the fall so he looks bad regardless.

  
  I don't buy that he is taking a sword for anyone, such as Smith. But what if he forwarded them to one of his lawyers( I am sure he has a bunch of them), and they advised him not to say anything because of the federal investigation going on? Not saying thats the case...but again, just like you, I can come up with a million and one theories on what, when, why and how....
• pmoney25

  

  centralbucksfan;708519 wrote:Lets not go overboard. I don't think there is ONE SINGLE OSU fan saying Tressel is innocent or didn't hide something. He obviously did. As far as your comment about Cicero the Lawyer..HE IS THE ONE WHO SAID HE WASN'T Judas...no one is or has called him that! Death threats? Who knows..thats what he is claiming. Check out his past...he is as shadey as they come.

  
  Yea, lets look at Tressel past also? not exactly an empty closet.
• centralbucksfan

  jordo212000;708523 wrote:After reading the last couple of pages, I am starting to agree with Common Man and the Torg. There are simply some Buckeye fans who would be taking up for Tress and defending him to the death even if he walked into the press conference and said that he just murdered somebody with an ax.
  
  Some of the posts I have been reading are just mind-numbing. Take the emotion out of it guys. Tress screwed up and he screwed up big. And on top of it, he treated us all like we were 9 years old at the press conference. Him trying to pull the wool over our eyes with that "confidentiality" BS was a complete joke. There was two weeks before the lawyer said "hey don't tell anybody this"

  
  If thats directed at me, not true. I was one on JJ who was HIGHLY critical of how Tressel handled Troy Smith and was raked over the coals for it. All I am saying in this situation, is that we don't know the half of what really went on with this situation. Tressel obviously did in fact fuck up, and fuck up big time. No question. I just don't care that some are speculating and making this worse...if thats possible. I can freely admit I could be wrong. But again, I look at those around him sticking their neck on the chopping block and I find it hard to believe they would do that if it were as bad as some are making it out to be.
• pmoney25

  

  jordo212000;708523 wrote:After reading the last couple of pages, I am starting to agree with Common Man and the Torg. There are simply some Buckeye fans who would be taking up for Tress and defending him to the death even if he walked into the press conference and said that he just murdered somebody with an ax.
  
  Some of the posts I have been reading are just mind-numbing. Take the emotion out of it guys. Tress screwed up and he screwed up big. And on top of it, he treated us all like we were 9 years old at the press conference. Him trying to pull the wool over our eyes with that "confidentiality" BS was a complete joke. There was two weeks before the lawyer said "hey don't tell anybody this"

  
  Big Ten titles and BCS Games mean more to some fans than Integrity and Honor.
• centralbucksfan

  pmoney25;708528 wrote:Yea, lets look at Tressel past also? not exactly an empty closet.

  
  Find me a fucking coach who has an empt closet......
• pmoney25

  

  Just pointing out the fact that you said why should we believe this Cicero guy because of his shady past but we should blindly believe Tressel? That doesnt make sense to me.
• Little Danny

  

  centralbucksfan;708530 wrote:If thats directed at me, not true. I was one on JJ who was HIGHLY critical of how Tressel handled Troy Smith and was raked over the coals for it. All I am saying in this situation, is that we don't know the half of what really went on with this situation. Tressel obviously did in fact fuck up, and fuck up big time. No question. I just don't care that some are speculating and making this worse...if thats possible. I can freely admit I could be wrong. But again, I look at those around him sticking their neck on the chopping block and I find it hard to believe they would do that if it were as bad as some are making it out to be.

  
  If Tress forwarded this to his lawyer and received advice not to report these emails to the compliance office, Gene Smith or to OSU's counsel then his lawyer needs to be sued for legal malpractice.
• ytownfootball

  

  pmoney25;708536 wrote:Just pointing out the fact that you said why should we believe this Cicero guy because of his shady past but we should blindly believe Tressel? That doesnt make sense to me.

  
  Not one post on here states they blindly believe a fucking thing...nice generalization though.
• ytownfootball

  

  Hilarious clusterfuck of same minded individuals who always approach like topics with mind numbingly stupid rhetoric...about three of 'em.
• centralbucksfan

  Little Danny;708537 wrote:If Tress forwarded this to his lawyer and received advice not to report these emails to the compliance office, Gene Smith or to OSU's counsel then his lawyer needs to be sued for legal malpractice.

  
  Just SPECULATING like everyone else! WHich btw..I don't think would be too crazy to think considering it was FEDERAL investigation. YOu don't fuck with the feds. They could give a shit about OSU or the NCAA.
• karen lotz

  

  ytownfootball;708542 wrote:Hilarious clusterfuck of same minded individuals who always approach like topics with mind numbingly stupid rhetoric...about three of 'em.

  
  
  That's not nice to say about your fellow OSU fans.
• ytownfootball

  

  centralbucksfan;708544 wrote:Just SPECULATING like everyone else! WHich btw..I don't think would be too crazy to think considering it was FEDERAL investigation. YOu don't fuck with the feds. They could give a shit about OSU or the NCAA.

  
  Of course this gets glossed over...what looks worse an NCAA violation or a Federal indictment?
• thedynasty1998

  

  Little Danny;708537 wrote:If Tress forwarded this to his lawyer and received advice not to report these emails to the compliance office, Gene Smith or to OSU's counsel then his lawyer needs to be sued for legal malpractice.

  
  This is the only logical explanation I can come up with, that he sent the emails to his own personal lawyers.
  
  BUT, that doesn't explain his lying to the NCAA.
• jordo212000

  

  centralbucksfan;708530 wrote:If thats directed at me, not true. I was one on JJ who was HIGHLY critical of how Tressel handled Troy Smith and was raked over the coals for it. All I am saying in this situation, is that we don't know the half of what really went on with this situation. Tressel obviously did in fact fuck up, and fuck up big time. No question. I just don't care that some are speculating and making this worse...if thats possible. I can freely admit I could be wrong. But again, I look at those around him sticking their neck on the chopping block and I find it hard to believe they would do that if it were as bad as some are making it out to be.

  
  Nah it was a general statement. It seriously makes my head hurt to read some of these posts. Fact is, we don't know "what really went on" because Tress and Smith are measuring their words very carefully right now. Tress talked in circles the entire press conference and said a lot of things that just didn't add up. I still think it would have been wise for them to not issue a public statement and to just release a press release. The press conference created a lot more questions than it answered.
  
  The smelliest part remains that somebody told Tress to hide behind the "confidentiality" as a reason for not going forward. After looking at the emails for 5 minutes it is apparent that "confidentiality" didn't come into play until 2 weeks later. Shady, shady, shady.
• ytownfootball

  

  karen lotz;708545 wrote:That's not nice to say about your fellow OSU fans.

  
  Ahhhh yes...as always...a guilty conscious convicts itself.
• thedynasty1998

  

  jordo212000;708551 wrote:Nah it was a general statement. It seriously makes my head hurt to read some of these posts. Fact is, we don't know "what really went on" because Tress and Smith are measuring their words very carefully right now. Tress talked in circles the entire press conference and said a lot of things that just didn't add up. I still think it would have been wise for them to not issue a public statement and to just release a press release. The press conference created a lot more questions than it answered.
  
  The smelliest part remains that somebody told Tress to hide behind the "confidentiality" as a reason for not going forward. After looking at the emails for 5 minutes it is apparent that "confidentiality" didn't come into play until 2 weeks later. Shady, shady, shady.

  
  Well said.
• jordo212000

  

  ytownfootball;708548 wrote:Of course this gets glossed over...what looks worse an NCAA violation or a Federal indictment?

  
  Federal indictment? Again, what are you talking about? He was talking to a lawyer, not a fed. The Feds would go after Cicero, not Tress.
• centralbucksfan

  ytownfootball;708548 wrote:Of course this gets glossed over...what looks worse an NCAA violation or a Federal indictment?

  
  I agree. Nobody wants to look at this. And I think it plays a huge part in this story. And seeing that its an ongoing investigation...that could be the reasoning Smith said they are not permitted to discuss certain things. Who knows...
• ytownfootball

  

  jordo212000;708554 wrote:Federal indictment? Again, what are you talking about? He was talking to a lawyer, not a fed. The Feds would go after Cicero, not Tress.

  
  SMH...
• centralbucksfan

  jordo212000;708551 wrote:Nah it was a general statement. It seriously makes my head hurt to read some of these posts. Fact is, we don't know "what really went on" because Tress and Smith are measuring their words very carefully right now. Tress talked in circles the entire press conference and said a lot of things that just didn't add up. I still think it would have been wise for them to not issue a public statement and to just release a press release. The press conference created a lot more questions than it answered.
  
  The smelliest part remains that somebody told Tress to hide behind the "confidentiality" as a reason for not going forward. After looking at the emails for 5 minutes it is apparent that "confidentiality" didn't come into play until 2 weeks later. Shady, shady, shady.

  I don't disagree with this at all.
• jordo212000

  

  centralbucksfan;708556 wrote:I agree. Nobody wants to look at this. And I think it plays a huge part in this story. And seeing that its an ongoing investigation...that could be the reasoning Smith said they are not permitted to discuss certain things. Who knows...

  
  The federal investigation has long been out of the bag and I find it hard to believe that it hasn't essentially been wrapped up already. Smith was mainly saying they couldn't discuss certain things because the NCAA is still investigating. (He was essentially pleading the 5th)
• ytownfootball

  

  centralbucksfan;708556 wrote:I agree. Nobody wants to look at this. And I think it plays a huge part in this story. And seeing that its an ongoing investigation...that could be the reasoning Smith said they are not permitted to discuss certain things. Who knows...

  
  The NCAA of course realizes this. This is why the effigy hoisters look so ignorant.