Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

• gut

  Notice how QQ isn't posting lists of links to Drudge lately? If you glance over there, you'll see most of the articles lately are negative on Trump.
• QuakerOats

  SUPREME COURT CHOICE TUESDAY NIGHT...
  Fight sure to go nuclear...
  WORLD ORDER SHAKEN BY TRUMP IMMIGRATION DIRECTIVES...
  Confusion Grips Airports... Chaos at LAX...
  Uproar spreads...
  Trump supporter knocked unconscious in Portland...
  Heartland voters shrug it off... Faint corporate outcry beyond Silicon Valley...
  Iraqi parliament wants govt to retaliate...
  Restrictions Put Saudi Arabia in Bind...
  Trump expands power of immigration officers... Agents Cheer...
  Next Move to Hit Closer to Home for Tech...
  UK under pressure to cancel state visit...
  SCHUMER CRIES...
  HOLLYWOOD SAG SHOW TURNS INTO TRUMP-BASHING FEST...
  Lily Tomlin Says Nazis...
  
  
  Best wishes
  
  
• QuakerOats

  On Saturday 325,000 people entered the country; 109 were detained = 0.0003% ..... perspective
  
  
  Yet the media made it look like the world was coming to an end.
  
  Trump right again.
• Fly4Fun

  

  QuakerOats;1834868 wrote:On Saturday 325,000 people entered the country; 109 were detained = 0.0003% ..... perspective
  
  
  Yet the media made it look like the world was coming to an end.
  
  Trump right again.

  [FONT=&quot]First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Socialist.[/FONT]
  [FONT=&quot]Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Trade Unionist.[/FONT]
  [FONT=&quot]Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Jew.[/FONT]
  [FONT=&quot]Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
  
  -Martin Niemoller[/FONT]
• bases_loaded

  

  Oh for fucks sake, you automatically lose when you play the Nazi card. Embarrassing.
  
  
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• QuakerOats

  https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4351026/clinton-1995-immigration-sotu
  
  
  
  Bill Clinton - 1995 State of the Union address.
  
  I guess if you are a democrat it is ok to crack down on illegal immigrants.
  
  The perverse media and political correctness are killers.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1834874 wrote:Oh for fucks sake, you automatically lose when you play the Nazi card. Embarrassing.
  
  
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  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-billionaire-republican-donor-charles-koch-likens-policy-to-adolf-a7552531.html
  

  Charles Koch first likened candidate Donald Trump's plan to ban Muslim immigrants to something Adolf Hitler would have done in Nazi Germany.

  Charles Koch disagrees with you.
  
  Trump is a fascist so its no surprise the comparisons are being made. Enjoy!
• sleeper

  

  http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/donald-trump-mental-illness-narcisissm-us-president-psychologists-inauguration-crowd-size-paranoia-a7552661.html
  

  In a bid to warn the public, psychologists are publishing their diagnoses of Trump. Most recently, John D. Gartner said Trump “is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president.” He believes Trump shows signs of “malignant narcissism,” which is defined as a mix of narcissism, antisocial personality disorder, aggression and sadism in Campbells’ Psychiatric Dictionary. Narcissism is in fact one of the most common diagnoses of Trump from psychologists: “Narcissism impairs his ability to see reality so you can't use logic to persuade someone like that,” clinical psychologist Dr. Julie Futrell told NY Daily News.

  Well no shit.
  
  We elected a person with mental illness to the Presidency. Incredible.
• QuakerOats

  Mohamed Khadir from Morocco, one of two arrested in Quebec mosque shooting.
• sleeper

  

  http://economicalmillennial.com/trumps-muslim-ban-will-cost-u-s-taxpayers-about-15-billion/
  

  The executive order signed by President Trump late Friday night not only cost some green card holders their chance to get back into the United States and trapped others in airports, but it will also likely cost U.S. taxpayers about $15 billion by the time the 90 day ban is scheduled to be lifted.

  More BIG Government and more tax dollars being wasted. Simply ridiculous to spend $15 BILLION in 3 months to prevent legal immigration.
  
  We have elected the enemy.
• sleeper

  

  Stock market tumbling in reaction to Trump's Muslim ban.
  
  The anti-business President continues his destruction on America.
• Spock

  

  Do people realize the media is perpetrating lies.
  
  THere is no "muslim" ban.
  
  The idea that trump is naming 7 countries that have travel bans is not from him. That list came from Obama.
• bases_loaded

  

  Tell me more about how restricting 7 countries of which we are at war with or are harboring terrorists equals a Muslim ban? You're a numbers guy right? Do the math on total number of countries affected divided by total amount of Muslim countries. Then tell me how this is like Adolph Hitler? Then tell me how many Jews were committing acts of terror prior to their lockup in camps. But before that show me the camps these 109 Muslims from 7 countries are going to be sent to...wait they are they just being sent back home?
  
  
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• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1834896 wrote:Tell me more about how restricting 7 countries of which we are at war with or are harboring terrorists equals a Muslim ban? You're a numbers guy right? Do the math on total number of countries affected divided by total amount of Muslim countries. Then tell me how this is like Adolph Hitler? Then tell me how many Jews were committing acts of terror prior to their lockup in camps. But before that show me the camps these 109 Muslims from 7 countries are going to be sent to...wait they are they just being sent back home?
  
  
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  http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/immigration-stats-by-the-numbers-trnd/
  
  Facts don't care about your feelings. My favorite statistics:
  

  You have a .00003% change of dying in an attack by a foreign-born terrorist

  0 refugees from countries included in the President's travel ban have killed anyone in terrorist attacks on American soil

  Enjoy!
• superman

  Fly4Fun;1834870 wrote:[FONT=&quot]First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Socialist.[/FONT]
  [FONT=&quot]Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Trade Unionist.[/FONT]
  [FONT=&quot]Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Jew.[/FONT]
  [FONT=&quot]Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
  
  -Martin Niemoller[/FONT]

  First they came with strawmen and I did not speak up because I didn't use strawmen.
  Then they came with false equivalence and I did not speak up because I did not use false equivalence.
  Then they brought out the red herrings but I did not speak out because I did not use red herrings.
• Fly4Fun

  

  superman;1834899 wrote:First they came with strawmen and I did not speak up because I didn't use strawmen.
  Then they came with false equivalence and I did not speak up because I did not use false equivalence.
  Then they brought out the red herrings but I did not speak out because I did not use red herrings.

  Irony at it's finest right here folks.
  
  First off, what I said isn't a strawman argument. A strawman argument is when you argue against an point that the speaker did not actually bring up. My post was in response to someone saying it is only a small % of the people who were coming in. The quote I used addresses that situation, if you don't stand up for whats right to protect a small portion of the population, eventually everyone will be gone as it happened in Nazi Germany.
  
  Secondly, your post is incredibly ironic because by mislabeling my argument as a strawman argument you effectively participated in a strawman argument yourself.
  
  It is amusing watching people try to defend Trump's policies when republicans are even turning against him. I normally stay out of this forum because it's so pointless trying to debate over the internet where people generally show a lack of respect for other people so how is anyone going to respect each others opinions. But I just came in here to se what kind of discourse is accompanying these events in our country.
• sleeper

  

  Fly4Fun;1834902 wrote:Irony at it's finest right here folks.
  
  First off, what I said isn't a strawman argument. A strawman argument is when you argue against an point that the speaker did not actually bring up. My post was in response to someone saying it is only a small % of the people who were coming in. The quote I used addresses that situation, if you don't stand up for whats right to protect a small portion of the population, eventually everyone will be gone as it happened in Nazi Germany.
  
  Secondly, your post is incredibly ironic because by mislabeling my argument as a strawman argument you effectively participated in a strawman argument yourself.
  
  It is amusing watching people try to defend Trump's policies when republicans are even turning against him. I normally stay out of this forum because it's so pointless trying to debate over the internet where people generally show a lack of respect for other people so how is anyone going to respect each others opinions. But I just came in here to se what kind of discourse is accompanying these events in our country.

  Add in the fact that we actually have a FASCIST in the White House and the comparisons go beyond appropriate; they are reality.
  
  We have elected the enemy. 2020 can't come soon enough.
• bases_loaded

  

  sleeper;1834898 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/immigration-stats-by-the-numbers-trnd/
  
  Facts don't care about your feelings. My favorite statistics:
  
  
  
  
  Enjoy!

  I guess we should react rather than be proactive. Wait till they run through a crowd at Red White and Boom maybe. Then we will spend a couple weeks not calling them radical islamist until it doesn't matter anymore because it's forgotten, like the OSU attack...or the St Cloud Mall attack.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I can't believe people are still responding to sleeper. He's trolling fellas.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1834906 wrote:I guess we should react rather than be proactive. Wait till they run through a crowd at Red White and Boom maybe. Then we will spend a couple weeks not calling them radical islamist until it doesn't matter anymore because it's forgotten, like the OSU attack...or the St Cloud Mall attack.

  So react by banning people from countries that have never attacked us? Nice. If Trump was serious, he would ban all travel with Saudi Arabia, the country from which the 9/11 terrorists killed 2,000 civilians. Maybe also would cut foreign aid to them too.
  
  You've been duped. Get in the game! Redemption is still possible.
• sleeper

  

  SportsAndLady;1834907 wrote:I can't believe people are still responding to sleeper. He's trolling fellas.

  Nice contribution.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1834909 wrote:So react by banning people from countries that have never attacked us? Nice. If Trump was serious, he would ban all travel with Saudi Arabia, the country from which the 9/11 terrorists killed 2,000 civilians. Maybe also would cut foreign aid to them too.

  You must work for the government; unable to figure out that threats move around.
  
  Luckily, Trump is your leader now.
  
  Peace
• QuakerOats

  Fly4Fun;1834902 wrote:Irony at it's finest right here folks.
  
  First off, what I said isn't a strawman argument. A strawman argument is when you argue against an point that the speaker did not actually bring up. My post was in response to someone saying it is only a small % of the people who were coming in. The quote I used addresses that situation, if you don't stand up for whats right to protect a small portion of the population, eventually everyone will be gone as it happened in Nazi Germany.
  
  Secondly, your post is incredibly ironic because by mislabeling my argument as a strawman argument you effectively participated in a strawman argument yourself.
  
  It is amusing watching people try to defend Trump's policies when republicans are even turning against him. I normally stay out of this forum because it's so pointless trying to debate over the internet where people generally show a lack of respect for other people so how is anyone going to respect each others opinions. But I just came in here to se what kind of discourse is accompanying these events in our country.

  
  If Mexico was exporting tomatoes to the U.S. and it was determined that some tomatoes contained deadly bacteria making them unsafe to Americans, what would the U.S. government do? Correct, they would halt the importation of all tomatoes from Mexico until it could be determined that all tomatoes were safe to enter the U.S., or at a minimum, that those entering the U.S. were safe.
  
  
  Take care.
• rocketalum

  QuakerOats;1834913 wrote:If Mexico was exporting tomatoes to the U.S. and it was determined that some tomatoes contained deadly bacteria making them unsafe to Americans, what would the U.S. government do? Correct, they would halt the importation of all tomatoes from Mexico until it could be determined that all tomatoes were safe to enter the U.S., or at a minimum, that those entering the U.S. were safe.
  
  
  Take care.

  What doesn't work here, or with that Skittles reference one of the Trump kids made, is that these analogies equate a inanimate object with a human being. I'm inferring a bit from previous threads in assuming that you're a religious person and that's why it strikes me as so odd that the inadequacy of this 'tomato' analogy is lost on you. God's directions are pretty clear on this issue. I am not trying to call you out I'm asking for some help understanding. I cannot mentally get myself around how so many people who claim the title "Christian" are also supporting this approach.
  
  [h=1]Leviticus 19:33-34New International Version (NIV)[/h][FONT=&quot]33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.
  
  Matthew 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,[/FONT]
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1834912 wrote:You must work for the government; unable to figure out that threats move around.
  
  Luckily, Trump is your leader now.
  
  Peace

  Oh so no comment on banning travel from the country that committed the greatest terror attack ever on US soil?
  
  Keep defending the fascist. Hitler would be proud.