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Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

  • sleeper
    We're fucked.
  • thavoice
    Nah.

    Its gonna be just fine.


    and note, we would have been just fine if Clinton was elected as well.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Sure seems we're boned.
  • thavoice
    Your happiness, success and well-being 4 years from now will be from your own doing, not whom resides in the WH.
  • jedbartlet02
    thavoice;1823151 wrote:Your happiness, success and well-being 4 years from now will be from your own doing, not whom resides in the WH.

    Not if you're LGBTQ, Muslim, or Mexican. Trump is going to fuck them hard
  • 4cards
    jedbartlet02;1823156 wrote:Not if you're LGBTQ, Muslim, or Mexican. Trump is going to fuck them hard
    ...quit watching the Clinton News Network, none of that is going to happen.
  • thavoice
    jedbartlet02;1823156 wrote:Not if you're LGBTQ, Muslim, or Mexican. Trump is going to fuck them hard



    No,he is not. There lives, just like everyone else, will be no better, or worse, than it is right now. Their future depends on whom looks at them when they look into a mirror, not who is president.
  • Fab4Runner
    thavoice;1823167 wrote:No,he is not. There lives, just like everyone else, will be no better, or worse, than it is right now. Their future depends on whom looks at them when they look into a mirror, not who is president.
    .

    You don't think banning gays from getting married will make their lives worse?
  • ptown_trojans_1
    His cabinet and how he structures his staff will be incredibly important.
    I wonder how much power/ control he cedes to the Congress?
    How many and what type of Executive Orders will he issue?
    Oh, and how exactly will his businesses be impacted? Will he totally cut ties with them, eliminating any potential conflict of interests?
  • jmog
    jedbartlet02;1823156 wrote:Not if you're LGBTQ, Muslim, or Mexican. Trump is going to fuck them hard
    If Trump is f'ing the LGBTQ folks would that make him LGBTQ himself and therefore f'ing himself?



    I have something that will blow your mind...

    My sister is a lesbian and voted for Trump.
    My wife is bisexual and voted for Trump.

    They both are all for LGBTQ rights and want to help spread marriage laws, etc, but both saw how corrupt Hillary was.
  • thavoice
    Fab4Runner;1823173 wrote:.

    You don't think banning gays from getting married will make their lives worse?
    That will likely stay as a state issue.

    ....and banning everyone, gays included, from marriage should make everyone's lives better!
  • jmog
    Fab4Runner;1823173 wrote:.

    You don't think banning gays from getting married will make their lives worse?
    He has said it should be determined by the states, not banned across the US (at least in the speeches I saw anyway).
  • sleeper
    A lot of people think he's going to overturn Roe v. Wade, Obamacare, gay marriage, etc.

    Obamacare is the only thing that I legitimately think is in immediate jeopardy. He will have a GOP Congress that is ready to green light the elimination of that healthcare system but as far as everything else I don't think he has a chance in hell. It's very difficult to overturn SCOTUS rulings and a good chunk of the GOP doesn't like Trump and won't back everything he says.

    Our foreign relations are as good as fucked though. Good bye NATO and potentially the UN; NAFTA is out the door as well.
  • thavoice
    sleeper;1823182 wrote:A lot of people think he's going to overturn Roe v. Wade, Obamacare, gay marriage, etc.

    Obamacare is the only thing that I legitimately think is in immediate jeopardy. He will have a GOP Congress that is ready to green light the elimination of that healthcare system but as far as everything else I don't think he has a chance in hell. It's very difficult to overturn SCOTUS rulings and a good chunk of the GOP doesn't like Trump and won't back everything he says.

    Our foreign relations are as good as fucked though. Good bye NATO and potentially the UN; NAFTA is out the door as well.
    He wont eliminate obamacare. Taking way the covering would be political suicide. He has talked about changing it, tweaking, and making it better and more affordable. Once that system was in place, it wasnt going to be taken away. I agree that Roe V Wade wont get over turned and gay marriage will continue to be a state issue.

    NATO and the UN isnt going anywhere. Maybe he stronger stance on foreign issues will be a good thing. Look for him to really temper down what his rhetoric was during the campaign.


    Again, in 2020 when we go to the polls again, our lives will have much more to do with what we make of them over whomever is the President. That is something you can book.
  • Con_Alma
    thavoice;1823190 wrote:He wont eliminate obamacare. ....
    There is already a plan in place to carry out such an effort. The President Elect only needs to sign such a bill into law...which I think he would. The real challenge would be to get it to his desk.

    http://abetterway.speaker.gov/_assets/pdf/ABetterWay-HealthCare-Snapshot.pdf

    http://abetterway.speaker.gov/?page=health-care
  • Fab4Runner
    thavoice;1823177 wrote:That will likely stay as a state issue.

    ....and banning everyone, gays included, from marriage should make everyone's lives better!
    jmog;1823178 wrote:He has said it should be determined by the states, not banned across the US (at least in the speeches I saw anyway).
    Well I have no faith in backwards ass Ohio doing the right thing where gay marriage is concerned.
  • jmog
    Fab4Runner;1823199 wrote:Well I have no faith in backwards ass Ohio doing the right thing where gay marriage is concerned.
    I am actually for gay marriage but just correcting the statement as best as I know Trump had said. He said it should be a states decision, he didn't say he wanted to ban them.
  • Con_Alma
    thavoice;1823177 wrote:...

    ....and banning everyone, gays included, from marriage should make everyone's lives better!
    Agreed. Get gov out of marriage entirely. It's a legal contract between two adults. Let the drafted contract dictate the terms.

    Standard benefits should be eliminated. Refer to the contract.
  • thavoice
    Fab4Runner;1823199 wrote:Well I have no faith in backwards ass Ohio doing the right thing where gay marriage is concerned.
    Was your candidate promoting that the federal government mandate gay marriage legal across the country?
  • Fab4Runner
    thavoice;1823203 wrote:Was your candidate promoting that the federal government mandate gay marriage legal across the country?
    We already know that you believe YOUR way is the 'right thing where gay marriage is concerned'.
    I didn't truly support a candidate in this presidential election, but the one I supported in the primary was just fine with the SCOTUS ruling and had no intentions of trying to overturn it.

    And yes, I believe my way is the right way. I believe in basic human rights. There are a lot of things I am willing to compromise on. This isn't one of them.
  • SportsAndLady
    jmog;1823201 wrote:I am actually for gay marriage but just correcting the statement as best as I know Trump had said. He said it should be a states decision, he didn't say he wanted to ban them.
    Shocker, someone who screams "trump's a bigot and racist and sexist!" Doesn't actually know the facts of their accusation.

    I don't like Trump. Hell I'm a republican who voted for Hillary. But I don't like trump because I don't believe he'd be able to accomplish anything as president. Not because CNN told me he was a bigot/sexist/racist.
  • fish82
    Fab4Runner;1823173 wrote:.

    You don't think banning gays from getting married will make their lives worse?
    That's not gonna happen. Jesus, people.
  • Crimson streak
    Obama care will be as good as gone. And another thing that will thankfully be gone is the common core bullshit. Should definitely help with our education. I don't think nafta will be gone, but I do believe it will be tweaked to help benefit us more. It will definitely be an interesting 4 years but it's time for some charges and hopefully they pay off.


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  • thavoice
    SportsAndLady;1823206 wrote:Shocker, someone who screams "trump's a bigot and racist and sexist!" Doesn't actually know the facts of their accusation.

    I don't like Trump. Hell I'm a republican who voted for Hillary. But I don't like trump because I don't believe he'd be able to accomplish anything as president. Not because CNN told me he was a bigot/sexist/racist.
    Yeah, we know.
  • thavoice
    Fab4Runner;1823205 wrote:I didn't truly support a candidate in this presidential election, but the one I supported in the primary was just fine with the SCOTUS ruling and had no intentions of trying to overturn it.

    And yes, I believe my way is the right way. I believe in basic human rights. There are a lot of things I am willing to compromise on. This isn't one of them.
    Fair enough. Let's revisit this in 4 years and I bet that however things go in our lives it will be because of our choices, our paths and our beliefs and not any sitting president.