Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

• Heretic

  

  Spock;1823510 wrote:Keep thinking that. When reduced to name calling its a fact that you can't compete intellectually

  *it's
• Automatik

  

  Kickball musings. :laugh:
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  Spock;1823510 wrote:Keep thinking that. When reduced to name calling its a fact that you can't compete intellectually

  Well it is hard to compete with you intellectually.
• Con_Alma

  Will Mr. Trump follow through on his statement to not take the Presidential salary if elected??
  
  I believe there have been two presidents who have donated the salary to charity.
• QuakerOats

  fish82;1823373 wrote:The ACA is mostly safe. It obviously needs some serious retooling, but we're too far down the rabbit hole at this point to straight up repeal it.

  
  It is not mostly safe, in my opinion. I think it is mostly dead, especially when individual mandate is stripped. Rand Paul already talking about the first moves to make along with many others. Dr. Carson had a few comments about it also:
  
  http://video.foxnews.com/v/5204819028001/?#sp=show-clips
  
  
  Hard to believe that we will once again be unleashing old-fashioned American innovation to solve problems, instead of having disastrous liberal ideas forced upon us by democrats (only) and then backed by crushing federal regulation and bureaucracy.
• QuakerOats

  jedbartlet02;1823400 wrote:Mexico will NEVER pay for it

  
  They would not have to send us a check; we would merely reduce the amount of funding we are sending there way for a period of years. Simple, and under the radar.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  QuakerOats;1823533 wrote:They would not have to send us a check; we would merely reduce the amount of funding we are sending there way for a period of years. Simple, and under the radar.

  yeah.. reduce by 100% for 300 years lol.
  
  ...a period of years lol.
• QuakerOats

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823537 wrote:yeah.. reduce by 100% for 300 years lol.
  
  ...a period of years lol.

  
  Obviously you haven't looked at the math. I am not doing any more homework for lazy, liberal SJW's, and other marxist miscreants.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  QuakerOats;1823543 wrote:Obviously you haven't looked at the math. I am not doing any more homework for lazy, liberal SJW's, and other marxist miscreants.

  15 billion for a wall and we give them 51 mil a year...Should I let CC figure it out for you?
• Spock

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823547 wrote:15 billion for a wall and we give them 51 mil a year...Should I let CC figure it out for you?

  If you think all we give them is 51 mil a year you are delusional. We prop up their whole economy. Including all the untaxed income from illegals that go back across the border
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  Spock;1823553 wrote:If you think all we give them is 51 mil a year you are delusional. We prop up their whole economy. Including all the untaxed income from illegals that go back across the border

  https://www.reference.com/government-politics/much-foreign-aid-united-states-give-mexico-d1238a7e5dd87a09
  
  i dunno?
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  looking at the governments website that number looks like its actually $134,664,000 of funding this year. so it'll only be 111 years of not giving them anything. Sounds reasonable.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  If you want to blow up the whole relationship and economic tie to Mexico over a wall, go right ahead. But, just do not complain when the markets collapse as the price of goods increases due to a trade war or an increase in tariffs. Suddenly, the oranges or fruits, or goods you buy at the store may increase in price.
  
  It's not that simple to just say, Mexico can pay for it. Trade deals are complex for a reason.
  BTW, with TPP also now dead, China can now have free reign to go after more favorable trade deals with Asian countries, further isolating US markets from favored status.
• BoatShoes

  majorspark;1823508 wrote:Trump should just offer immediate legal status and a guaranteed path to citizenship to any worker who helps build the wall.

  #MexicanLegio
• BoatShoes

  fish82;1823373 wrote:The ACA is mostly safe. It obviously needs some serious retooling, but we're too far down the rabbit hole at this point to straight up repeal it.

  Well I trust your foresight and not mine.
• Spock

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1823559 wrote:If you want to blow up the whole relationship and economic tie to Mexico over a wall, go right ahead. But, just do not complain when the markets collapse as the price of goods increases due to a trade war or an increase in tariffs. Suddenly, the oranges or fruits, or goods you buy at the store may increase in price.
  
  It's not that simple to just say, Mexico can pay for it. Trade deals are complex for a reason.
  BTW, with TPP also now dead, China can now have free reign to go after more favorable trade deals with Asian countries, further isolating US markets from favored status.

  The greatest economy of all time isn't being affected by tiny third world Mexico. They have no leverage in the debate
• fish82

  

  BoatShoes;1823564 wrote:Well I trust your foresight and not mine.

  Stop. You're making me blush. :laugh:
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Spock;1823568 wrote:The greatest economy of all time isn't being affected by tiny third world Mexico. They have no leverage in the debate

  Last I looked, we import more than we export.
  So, yeah it would have an impact.
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;1823559 wrote:If you want to blow up the whole relationship and economic tie to Mexico over a wall, go right ahead. But, just do not complain when the markets collapse as the price of goods increases due to a trade war or an increase in tariffs. Suddenly, the oranges or fruits, or goods you buy at the store may increase in price.
  
  It's not that simple to just say, Mexico can pay for it. Trade deals are complex for a reason.
  BTW, with TPP also now dead, China can now have free reign to go after more favorable trade deals with Asian countries, further isolating US markets from favored status.

  
  Oh boy. You need to start thinking quite a bit differently. Your side has inflicted economic damage upon families into the thousands and thousands of dollars, for some over ten thousand dollars in additional health care costs alone, and you are all of the sudden worried about the cost of oranges.
  
  It is a new paradigm; buckle your seat belt, and get ready. Maybe put a helmet on too, liberals usually do when riding their bicycles.
• QuakerOats

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823556 wrote:looking at the governments website that number looks like its actually $134,664,000 of funding this year. so it'll only be 111 years of not giving them anything. Sounds reasonable.

  
  Keep digging, you will get to the real number at some point.
  
  Good luck.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  QuakerOats;1823606 wrote:Keep digging, you will get to the real number at some point.
  
  Good luck.

  Uh huh. Let's see it cited. I won't hold my breath.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1823604 wrote:Oh boy. You need to start thinking quite a bit differently. Your side has inflicted economic damage upon families into the thousands and thousands of dollars, for some over ten thousand dollars in additional health care costs alone, and you are all of the sudden worried about the cost of oranges.
  
  It is a new paradigm; buckle your seat belt, and get ready. Maybe put a helmet on too, liberals usually do when riding their bicycles.

  Sure, fine.
  Ok, just do not complain if the price of everyday goods increases as a result of the increase in tariffs.
  
  I'll also add, the same logic applies to Obama as it did on blaming Bush. You cannot blame Obama at all for anything after 1/20/17 for the Trump administration.
  The Rs have the House, Senate, and White House. Own it. Anything good and bad.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Gosh a ruddies! How did we EVER live before NAFTA?
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  CenterBHSFan;1823613 wrote:Gosh a ruddies! How did we EVER live before NAFTA?

  Tariffs. Then again, the world economy was not as connected as it is now.
• sleeper

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1823608 wrote:Sure, fine.
  Ok, just do not complain if the price of everyday goods increases as a result of the increase in tariffs.
  
  I'll also add, the same logic applies to Obama as it did on blaming Bush. You cannot blame Obama at all for anything after 1/20/17 for the Trump administration.
  The Rs have the House, Senate, and White House. Own it. Anything good and bad.

  You already know R's will be blaming D's and Obama until 2020.