Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

• Spock

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1823614 wrote:Tariffs. Then again, the world economy was not as connected as it is now.

  A connected world economy gives us more power
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;1823614 wrote:Tariffs. Then again, the world economy was not as connected as it is now.

  
  So is it time to scrap 'farm to table'
  
  
  
  LOL
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  sleeper;1823618 wrote:You already know R's will be blaming D's and Obama until 2020.

  Probably. I was just saying.

  Spock;1823621 wrote:A connected world economy gives us more power

  Perhaps. Let's see what he does.

  QuakerOats;1823622 wrote:So is it time to scrap 'farm to table'
  
  
  
  LOL

  Nope. I was just referring to the complex international trade system.
  
  Let's see what Trump does and then we can go from there.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823607 wrote:Uh huh. Let's see it cited. I won't hold my breath.

  QuakerOats;1823622 wrote:So is it time to scrap 'farm to table'
  
  
  
  LOL

  ... still waiting to see you back up your claim.
• QuakerOats

  Maybe you missed the memo: I wrote that I am finished with doing the homework of the lazy, and the liberal. Start ponying up on the education; if you can figure out the internet you should be able to come up with right numbers.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  QuakerOats;1823655 wrote:Maybe you missed the memo: I wrote that I am finished with doing the homework of the lazy, and the liberal. Start ponying up on the education; if you can figure out the internet you should be able to come up with right numbers.

  Translation... I'm full of shit per usual.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823659 wrote:Translation... I'm full of shit per usual.

  To be fair, there is nothing that he could say or show evidence of, that you'd be willing to agree with. You're predisposed.
• Spock

  

  http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/calexit-donald-trump/index.html
  
  
  Please leave.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  CenterBHSFan;1823665 wrote:To be fair, there is nothing that he could say or show evidence of, that you'd be willing to agree with. You're predisposed.

  To be fair that's a horrible cop out.
• Azubuike24

  

  On thing Trump isn't...stupid. He knows how to win...and he took this challenge as a business challenge.
  
  He stole this election. He drew up a brilliant campaign that made history. Support him or not, he defied the odds from the minute he entered "politics."
  
  It's the same as saying anything, doing anything, pandering to anyone, etc...to get a job you want. I think much of the egotistical stances, outlandish ideas/statements and overzealous appearances he showed, was simply to give himself the best chance to WIN.
  
  I didn't vote for him, but again, he's not stupid. If he doesn't unify the country and at least get some of his detractors to give him a fair shake, he's not going to accomplish anything and fade away in 4 years.
  
  Why won't this happen? Unlike other presidents, who as part of their motive for wanting the job is personal fame and wealth, this isn't Trump. His "wealth" is going to come with being able to make history by rising from the underdog spot, winning the Presidency and then actually wanting to leave office with some credit. Someone with an ego like him, who isn't in it to get on TV or become wealthy, likely has this as his top priority. Guess what? He needs more than those who voted for him to accomplish this.
• BoatShoes

  Azubuike24;1823672 wrote:On thing Trump isn't...stupid. He knows how to win...and he took this challenge as a business challenge.
  
  He stole this election. He drew up a brilliant campaign that made history. Support him or not, he defied the odds from the minute he entered "politics."
  
  It's the same as saying anything, doing anything, pandering to anyone, etc...to get a job you want. I think much of the egotistical stances, outlandish ideas/statements and overzealous appearances he showed, was simply to give himself the best chance to WIN.
  
  I didn't vote for him, but again, he's not stupid. If he doesn't unify the country and at least get some of his detractors to give him a fair shake, he's not going to accomplish anything and fade away in 4 years.
  
  Why won't this happen? Unlike other presidents, who as part of their motive for wanting the job is personal fame and wealth, this isn't Trump. His "wealth" is going to come with being able to make history by rising from the underdog spot, winning the Presidency and then actually wanting to leave office with some credit. Someone with an ego like him, who isn't in it to get on TV or become wealthy, likely has this as his top priority. Guess what? He needs more than those who voted for him to accomplish this.

  Yes. As a dem I am ready to accept that Trump through years of connecting with people...WWE, etc. just had his finger on the pulse....
  
  Markets expecting a fiscal stimulus that will make the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act look small.
  
  I am ready to give trump the benefit of the doubt.
• O-Trap

  

  BoatShoes;1823687 wrote:I am ready to give trump the benefit of the doubt.

  Damn. This makes some on here look pretty bad, given how they reacted when Obama won, particularly in 2008.
• BoatShoes

  O-Trap;1823688 wrote:Damn. This makes some on here look pretty bad, given how they reacted when Obama won, particularly in 2008.

  Trump is an anomaly. If Ted Cruz were in Trump's shoes I think I'd be freaking a little cus he thinks he's an "Annointed King".
  
  I feel like many on the right think of Obama like I think of Ted Cruz...whereas Obama has Charisma and Ted Cruz seems like the creepy guy at Bible Camp.
• O-Trap

  

  BoatShoes;1823696 wrote:Ted Cruz seems like the creepy guy at Bible Camp.

  I always thought that was Rick Santorum.
  
  I see your point, though.
• fish82

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823671 wrote:To be fair that's a horrible cop out.

  And pretty damn true.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  fish82;1823728 wrote:And pretty damn true.

  lol you of all people should realize QQ's egregrious claim that "we'll just cut some funding for a few years" for a multi billion dollar wall is ridiculous. That's why he got called out on it and why he can't respond to it. But, here you are defending him b/c hes on "your side" lol. gtfo
• Wolves of Babylon

  You do realize that his plan to have Mexico pay is to cut the trade defecit right? Has nothing to do with Foreign aid. So if he reduces the 50+ billion deficit he can claim Mexico paid for it.
  
  Will it work? Doubt it. But that's his plan
  
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• fish82

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823747 wrote:lol you of all people should realize QQ's egregrious claim that "we'll just cut some funding for a few years" for a multi billion dollar wall is ridiculous. That's why he got called out on it and why he can't respond to it. But, here you are defending him b/c hes on "your side" lol. gtfo

  My comment was meant more "in general," than pertaining solely to you and QO's specific pissing match.
  
  Automatically assuming he's on "my side" drives the point home pretty well.
• Con_Alma

  O-Trap;1823713 wrote:I always thought that was Rick Santorum.
  
  I see your point, though.

  He was my write in vote again this year.
  
  I really hope he continues his push for his political career.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  fish82;1823752 wrote:My comment was meant more "in general," than pertaining solely to you and QO's specific pissing match.
  
  Automatically assuming he's on "my side" drives the point home pretty well.

  On your side being you both were trump voters which was openly admitted, right?
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  Wolves of Babylon;1823748 wrote:You do realize that his plan to have Mexico pay is to cut the trade defecit right? Has nothing to do with Foreign aid. So if he reduces the 50+ billion deficit he can claim Mexico paid for it.
  
  Will it work? Doubt it. But that's his plan
  
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  i thought what he actually said was he was going to stop the transfer of money from working illegals back to Mexico to pay for it... neither, of course, is what QQ claimed and the reason I called him out.
• ts1227

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823747 wrote:lol you of all people should realize QQ's egregrious claim that "we'll just cut some funding for a few years" for a multi billion dollar wall is ridiculous. That's why he got called out on it and why he can't respond to it. But, here you are defending him b/c hes on "your side" lol. gtfo

  You mean "stringing together a sentence of nothing but conservative buzz words" isn't a valid response?
• fish82

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1823755 wrote:On your side being you both were trump voters which was openly admitted, right?

  Patently false.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  fish82;1823762 wrote:Patently false.

  Ah you're right , I apologize.
• QuakerOats

  fish82;1823752 wrote:My comment was meant more "in general," than pertaining solely to you and QO's specific pissing match.
  
  Automatically assuming he's on "my side" drives the point home pretty well.

  
  Yes; I have not yet decided whether to let fish82 ride with me ...........but he is certainly in the running.