posted by QuakerOats

Not sure who the bigger moron is, James or Pelosi.

That could be debated for hours.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Lebron's not a POS. He made a stupid post and then thought better of it and took it down.

No he's a hypocritical POS because he basically jumped right to "racist murder" solely on the basis the guy is a white cop.   Which actually makes Lebron look like he himself might be a racist.

And he's a POS because rather than tweet an apology or correct the record, he quietly deletes the tweet.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Lebron's not a POS. He made a stupid post and then thought better of it and took it down. I'm sure everyone has done something similar. Granted as a famous athlete, he needs to think deeply about something before posting it. 

To me, this is evidence of the "wait until tomorrow" rule. If it's a brilliant post, save a draft and wait until the morning to see if that holds true. I wish I always heeded that advice. 

Lebron is a POS for his stance on Hong Kong. He puts his money above everything else. Lebron could be one of the richest athletes without China and he is still afraid to take a stand against them. He lost his right to speak up on issues when he sided with China

I love the "I miss Michael Jordan" tweets

What a class act.  Not a hypocritical POS at all:

posted by gut

No he's a hypocritical POS because he basically jumped right to "racist murder" solely on the basis the guy is a white cop.   Which actually makes Lebron look like he himself might be a racist.

And he's a POS because rather than tweet an apology or correct the record, he quietly deletes the tweet.

So let me get this straight, a white cop killed a black girl and SAVED a black girl so he's racist? Got it. Lebron's a dolt.

posted by BR1986FB

So let me get this straight, a white cop killed a black girl and SAVED a black girl so he's racist? Got it. Lebron's a dolt.

But when you're woke you don't apologize, you issue a follow-up tweet loaded with a quadruple dose of gaslighting.

Yeah, everyone that jumped to conclusions without the video has egg on their face now. 

Although, I do see people saying well the cop should have done more or used nonlethal means, which does not make sense, given how he rolled up to the situation. 

I'm all for the reduction of use of deadly force. If anything, I think the focus should be more why the cops did not get there sooner? The time between the 911 and the cops getting there was 10-15 mins. Could that have been decreased? I think if the cops get there sooner, the deadly event may have been prevented.  It was just the fact this guy rolled into a hostile situation and had to use force. 

Saw the liberal talking heads on TV last night like Van Jones struggle with this one .  You could tell that the right thing to say was you meet deadly force with deadly force.  

posted by sportchampps

Lebron is a POS for his stance on Hong Kong. He puts his money above everything else. Lebron could be one of the richest athletes without China and he is still afraid to take a stand against them. He lost his right to speak up on issues when he sided with China

Like most people, he has things you don't agree with. I agree he shouldn't have tweeted about the cop. I also don't agree with everything he's said or done. But the world isn't as simple as "I disagree with that guy, so he's a piece of shit". None of us will make it if that's the case. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I think if the cops get there sooner, the deadly event may have been prevented.  It was just the fact this guy rolled into a hostile situation and had to use force. 

Defund the police, amirite?  I bet a social worker would have simply disarmed the girl Chuck Norris-style.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but are we really going to criticize the response time?  Because if your standard is going to be anything less than perfection is unacceptable, then you won't have ANY cops left to show up to respond to this incident.

The Chauvin conviction was a big step forward, but I guess we aren't ready yet to use a textbook example to discuss the fatal choices people getting shot are making.

posted by gut

Defund the police, amirite?  I bet a social worker would have simply disarmed the girl Chuck Norris-style.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but are we really going to criticize the response time?  Because if your standard is going to be anything less than perfection is unacceptable, then you won't have ANY cops left to show up to respond to this incident.

The Chauvin conviction was a big step forward, but I guess we aren't ready yet to use a textbook example to discuss the fatal choices people getting shot are making.

I think we should really investigate response time. If the guy or a social worker was there a minute or 5 minutes sooner, it may have allowed them to de-escalate the situation. Response times also go to the larger discussion of having a more local response, that if something does occur, the earlier a person of authority could get there to de-escalate the better. This cop just got there way too late to do anything but respond by force. 

I know a few years ago, DC started to really look in 911 response time and was shocked how long it took and why it took so long. They have started to completely revamp the process leading to a more localized response. As Columbus PD looks to reform and change, response times should be one area to focus on as again, the earlier a cop or someone can get there, the better. If he is there a minute or 2 sooner, we could have had a different outcome. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Like most people, he has things you don't agree with. I agree he shouldn't have tweeted about the cop. I also don't agree with everything he's said or done. But the world isn't as simple as "I disagree with that guy, so he's a piece of shit". None of us will make it if that's the case. 

LOL, we aren't talking about a bunch of nobodies debating fast food or tv shows. 

A non-POS, with Lebron's level of influence and notoriety, would have simply apologized for that bullshit.  Instead, like a true POS, Lebron follows-up acting like he's the victim here.

posted by gut

LOL, we aren't talking about a bunch of nobodies debating fast food or tv shows. 

A non-POS, with Lebron's level of influence and notoriety, would have simply apologized for that bullshit.  Instead, like a true POS, Lebron follows-up acting like he's the victim here.

He's the "king" of the passive/aggressive. He pulled that crap constantly when he played for the Cavs.

If you are looking at celebrities, politicians, talking head journalist, athletes, et al for a moral compass, then you will be often disapointed

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If he is there a minute or 2 sooner, we could have had a different outcome. 

And that is diametrically opposed to "defund the police" and "overpolicing".

Someone could have called the cops a few minutes earlier, too.  How does constantly finding fault with police impact that?

We don't need to overcomplicate and overanalyze every incident.  If people can't just say "person assaults another person with a deadly weapon and gets killed by police" and move on....well, there's never going to be a solution and there's never going to be enough.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I think we should really investigate response time. If the guy or a social worker was there a minute or 5 minutes sooner, it may have allowed them to de-escalate the situation. Response times also go to the larger discussion of having a more local response, that if something does occur, the earlier a person of authority could get there to de-escalate the better. This cop just got there way too late to do anything but respond by force. 

How about people stop acting like animals and uncivilized beings, and start respecting each other at least to the point where they are not trying to kill each other. 

It is time to cut to the chase and address the REAL problem. 

posted by QuakerOats

How about people stop acting like animals and uncivilized beings, and start respecting each other at least to the point where they are not trying to kill each other. 

It is time to cut to the chase and address the REAL problem. 

Exactly. It's pretty common jackass sense. Don't step up to the cops and nothing should happen. Sometimes you get bad ones (Chauvin) but for the most part they're good. Somewhere it's been instilled into people that they can't be "disrespected" so they have to escalate the situation.

posted by gut

And that is diametrically opposed to "defund the police" and "overpolicing".

Someone could have called the cops a few minutes earlier, too.  How does constantly finding fault with police impact that?

We don't need to overcomplicate and overanalyze every incident.  If people can't just say "person assaults another person with a deadly weapon and gets killed by police" and move on....well, there's never going to be a solution and there's never going to be enough.

It is but it is not as well. The community policing movement is actually about providing a more local response with cops and social workers that are a part of the community. So, that could be common ground. 

Someone could have called earlier you are correct. I think anytime a person is killed by deadly force there should be an examination of how it could have been prevented. Just dismissing it as welp, nothing the guy or system could have done is not helpful. Someone died at the hands of the police and we need to analyze every aspect of how that could have been prevented if at all.  I think Columbus PD is taking that review as well. If it means next time a cop rolls up on a girl fight, then no one is killed, that is a success. 

posted by QuakerOats

How about people stop acting like animals and uncivilized beings, and start respecting each other at least to the point where they are not trying to kill each other. 

It is time to cut to the chase and address the REAL problem. 

Borderline language there man. 

Even neighbors that were interviewed thought it was just a typical girl fight. It was the knife that escalated things. I agree it is on the neighborhood and others to try and de-escalate the situation so a weapon is not involved. But, if someone of authority, cop or social worker, was there quicker it could have, could being the word, prevented this from the tragic ending. 

There is also the aspect she was a trouble foster kid and how did she become one that led her to this situation. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1
Just dismissing it as welp, nothing the guy or system could have done is not helpful. Someone died at the hands of the police and we need to analyze every aspect of how that could have been prevented if at all. 

Mostly agree, but I've seen plenty to say there was nothing the officer could have done. Want to examine the system, fine, but leave a cop who did his job alone. I'm sure he's having a hard enough time taking a child's life.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Borderline language there man. 

Even neighbors that were interviewed thought it was just a typical girl fight. It was the knife that escalated things. I agree it is on the neighborhood and others to try and de-escalate the situation so a weapon is not involved. But, if someone of authority, cop or social worker, was there quicker it could have, could being the word, prevented this from the tragic ending. 

There is also the aspect she was a trouble foster kid and how did she become one that led her to this situation. 

It looks like you are blaming everyone except the piece of garbage who was trying to stab people.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Mostly agree, but I've seen plenty to say there was nothing the officer could have done. Want to examine the system, fine, but leave a cop who did his job alone. I'm sure he's having a hard enough time taking a child's life.

Oh agree. Cop did everything he could and did it right. It is about not putting him in that or any cop in that position in the first place. 

After further thought, LeBron is indeed a piece of shit, he has 50M followers on twitter and posted inflammatory with intent to incite violence