posted by sportchampps

The speech where he told people not to be violent? 

Nope the one he said right before they marched to the capitol. 

Go ahead read it and also the remarks by Rudy and Don Jr.

The crowd was whipped into a frenzy. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You're a hook-line-and-sinker guy.   If the dems were so clever as to orchestrate a massive voting fraud to the tune of a million votes and keep all the players from talking, why didn't they do it in 2016?  Did they just happen to figure out how to do it these past four years?  

We've been over this.  All that had to happen was some pinpoint targeting in five counties in the five states that would/could swing the election; and that is exactly what happened.  Over 300 pre-election lawsuits filed by radical left organizations in targeted states for the sole purpose of making deals, i.e. bypassing legislatures, in order to change voting rules to vastly enhance their ability to stuff ballot boxes.  And that is precisely what happened.  No one is saying there was a nationwide orchestrated effort to manufacture votes in every state; it was a finely tuned legal effort that began long before November, and culminated in massive universal mail-in ballots flooding the masses without request in several key states, that also included, effectively, no verification .....and on and on and on. 

Correcting this abomination would so, so simple, but it will never happen because democrats and socialists do not want election integrity.  Hell they don't even want any debate, discussion, or the free flow of opinion.

We are not in a good place.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Did you listen to his speech that day? Did you also listen to the other people that day? Trump lit the fuse. 

This thread is hilarious now. 

Someone needs to listen to the speech (like you), and maybe better yet, read the transcript as well.  NO WHERE in the speech did he urge on what occurred; IN FACT his words were " I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

If any liberal politician said those words, they would be hailed as an American hero.  Christ, you and the left are literally deranged.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Did you listen to his speech that day? Did you also listen to the other people that day? Trump lit the fuse. 

This thread is hilarious now. 

posted by QuakerOats

Someone needs to listen to the speech (like you), and maybe better yet, read the transcript as well.  NO WHERE in the speech did he urge on what occurred; IN FACT his words were " I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

If any liberal politician said those words, they would be hailed as an American hero.  Christ, you and the left are literally deranged.

He hasn’t read the speech only the parts CNN told him he was allowed to hear

posted by QuakerOats

We've been over this.  All that had to happen was some pinpoint targeting in five counties in the five states that would/could swing the election; and that is exactly what happened.  Over 300 pre-election lawsuits filed by radical left organizations in targeted states for the sole purpose of making deals, i.e. bypassing legislatures, in order to change voting rules to vastly enhance their ability to stuff ballot boxes.  And that is precisely what happened.  No one is saying there was a nationwide orchestrated effort to manufacture votes in every state; it was a finely tuned legal effort that began long before November, and culminated in massive universal mail-in ballots flooding the masses without request in several key states, that also included, effectively, no verification .....and on and on and on. 

Correcting this abomination would so, so simple, but it will never happen because democrats and socialists do not want election integrity.  Hell they don't even want any debate, discussion, or the free flow of opinion.

We are not in a good place.

"I can't accept reality and I'm a big bitch, so here's a bunch of conspiracy stuff so I can pretend it's all a lie!!!!"

Zero conspiracy, except by the plaintiffs in every one of the several hundred pre-election lawsuits. 

read 'em up.

posted by QuakerOats

We've been over this.  All that had to happen was some pinpoint targeting in five counties in the five states that would/could swing the election; and that is exactly what happened.  Over 300 pre-election lawsuits filed by radical left organizations in targeted states for the sole purpose of making deals, i.e. bypassing legislatures, in order to change voting rules to vastly enhance their ability to stuff ballot boxes.  And that is precisely what happened.  No one is saying there was a nationwide orchestrated effort to manufacture votes in every state; it was a finely tuned legal effort that began long before November, and culminated in massive universal mail-in ballots flooding the masses without request in several key states, that also included, effectively, no verification .....and on and on and on. 

Correcting this abomination would so, so simple, but it will never happen because democrats and socialists do not want election integrity.  Hell they don't even want any debate, discussion, or the free flow of opinion.

We are not in a good place.

This looks like a verbatim transcript of one of Limbaugh's or Hannity's shows.  Every election has lawsuits surrounding it and coming from all sides - left and right.  There is nothing unique about 2020 in that respect.  But coincidently, the very first election that's succumbed to this legal surgical strike you allude to happens to be the one Trump loses in.  Could there be any possibility that maybe - just maybe - Trump saw that he'd be in a tough election, so he sowed the seed of "election fraud" months ago?  He put that out there and got people used to the idea that election fraud existed.  Then it got stoked over and over these past many months until people who'd never give one thought to election fraud and had virtually no knowledge of how an election works, became so convinced that fraud was at hand.  Then it wasn't "was there election fraud?", it was "of course everyone knows there was election fraud, that's a given."  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This looks like a verbatim transcript of one of Limbaugh's or Hannity's shows.  Every election has lawsuits surrounding it and coming from all sides - left and right.  There is nothing unique about 2020 in that respect.  But coincidently, the very first election that's succumbed to this legal surgical strike you allude to happens to be the one Trump loses in.  Could there be any possibility that maybe - just maybe - Trump saw that he'd be in a tough election, so he sowed the seed of "election fraud" months ago?  He put that out there and got people used to the idea that election fraud existed.  Then it got stoked over and over these past many months until people who'd never give one thought to election fraud and had virtually no knowledge of how an election works, became so convinced that fraud was at hand.  Then it wasn't "was there election fraud?", it was "of course everyone knows there was election fraud, that's a given."  

That's logical and all, but my guess is that Sad L'il QO-Anon Man is gonna continue being Sad L'il QO-Anon Man.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This looks like a verbatim transcript of one of Limbaugh's or Hannity's shows.  Every election has lawsuits surrounding it and coming from all sides - left and right.  There is nothing unique about 2020 in that respect.  But coincidently, the very first election that's succumbed to this legal surgical strike you allude to happens to be the one Trump loses in.  Could there be any possibility that maybe - just maybe - Trump saw that he'd be in a tough election, so he sowed the seed of "election fraud" months ago?  He put that out there and got people used to the idea that election fraud existed.  Then it got stoked over and over these past many months until people who'd never give one thought to election fraud and had virtually no knowledge of how an election works, became so convinced that fraud was at hand.  Then it wasn't "was there election fraud?", it was "of course everyone knows there was election fraud, that's a given."  

Good story.

“Endless suits have been brought to change the election rules set by state legislatures.” Three judges on the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals offered that assessment on Oct. 20. “This pervasive jockeying threatens to undermine public confidence in our elections. And the constant court battles make a mockery of the Constitution’s explicit delegation of this power to the state legislatures.”

Nearly four months later, after thousands of ballots had been cast under the rules set in June, the state elections board entered into a secretive agreement with Democratic activists. The agreement changed election rules. The board’s actions “draped a shroud of uncertainty” over this state’s elections, according to the 4th Circuit dissenters, threatening “even greater turbulence” if the rule changes were allowed to stand. “This chaos must end.”

“The victim of a last-minute interference, whatever its source, is the same: a federal election,” the 4th Circuit dissenters noted. “It is a difficult enough task to conduct an election in the middle of a pandemic without proliferating lawsuits and constantly changing rules.”

“Whenever interference occurs, it incentivizes an avalanche of partisan and destabilizing litigation against election rules duly enacted by state legislatures,” they added.

“This phenomenon is hardly unique to North Carolina,” the dissenters warned. “Around the country, courts are changing the rules of the upcoming elections at the last minute. It makes the promise of the Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses into a farce. It disrespects the Supreme Court’s repeated and clear command not to interfere so late in the day. This pernicious pattern is making the courts appear partisan, destabilizing federal elections, and undermining the power of the people to choose representatives to set election rules.”

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/high-courts-punt-paves-way-for-future-legal-battles-over-elections/

Democrats are generally pushing for the widest voting possible, demanding mail-balloting, extended windows to cast and count those ballots and fewer fraud checks such as signature-matching or witnesses to verify that ballots are cast legitimately.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/election-lawsuits-break-record-votes-counted/

And on and on and on ………….

·  Pre-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-election...

22 rows · Litigation was initiated by Democrats, seeking measures to ease voting, and Republicans, seeking to block such measures. [1] [2] [3] "[O]ver 230 election-related federal lawsuits were filed from January 1 to October 23, higher than any of the past three presidential election years during the same time period", according to a USA Today analysis. [2]

• See all 22 rows on en.wikipedia.org

·  Most highly litigated election in US history enters final ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/...

Nov 03, 2020 · A common theme emerged in the pre-election litigation: Democrats and their allies sought accommodations across the country for voters, like …

·  Election lawsuits break record before votes counted ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/...

Oct 26, 2020 · Other lawsuits are over in-person voting, postponements and the like. But the biggest chunk — about 230 cases — involve mail-in voting, said Jerrick Adams , Ballotpedia’s ballot expert.

·  Voting-related Lawsuits Pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/US-Election-2020...

Oct 10, 2020 · Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A look at some of the top lawsuits in battleground states:ARIZONA: A federal...

·  Federal election lawsuits have already set a ... - USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/...

Oct 30, 2020 · Lawsuits initiated by Democrats and advocacy groups have accused Republican election officials of purposefully curtailing the vote for constituencies that don't support them. In Minnesota, several ...

·  Voting-related lawsuits pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.timesrepublican.com/news/todays-news/...

Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A ...

·  High court's punt paves way for future legal battles over ...

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/...

The problem was bad enough when the 4th Circuit dissenters issued their opinion, citing 385 election-related lawsuits filed across the country. A mere three days later, the number had jumped to 411 lawsuits. That was the figure cited in an Oct. 23 brief from national election-integrity group True the Vote.

·  CONFIRMED: Democrats and Leftie Attorney Marc Elias Just ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/confirmed...

Sep 24, 2020 · Basically, it looks like the corrupt liberal lawyer, Marc Elias from Perkins Coie, is leading Democrats in their lawsuits around the country. The Democrats are suing all of the battleground states to change their election laws. Elias was working together with the Democrat NC Attorney General and the Democrat controlled board of elections (BOE).

I wonder how long before the FBI comes for QO...

posted by QuakerOats

“Endless suits have been brought to change the election rules set by state legislatures.” Three judges on the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals offered that assessment on Oct. 20. “This pervasive jockeying threatens to undermine public confidence in our elections. And the constant court battles make a mockery of the Constitution’s explicit delegation of this power to the state legislatures.”

 

Nearly four months later, after thousands of ballots had been cast under the rules set in June, the state elections board entered into a secretive agreement with Democratic activists. The agreement changed election rules. The board’s actions “draped a shroud of uncertainty” over this state’s elections, according to the 4th Circuit dissenters, threatening “even greater turbulence” if the rule changes were allowed to stand. “This chaos must end.”

“The victim of a last-minute interference, whatever its source, is the same: a federal election,” the 4th Circuit dissenters noted. “It is a difficult enough task to conduct an election in the middle of a pandemic without proliferating lawsuits and constantly changing rules.”

“Whenever interference occurs, it incentivizes an avalanche of partisan and destabilizing litigation against election rules duly enacted by state legislatures,” they added.

“This phenomenon is hardly unique to North Carolina,” the dissenters warned. “Around the country, courts are changing the rules of the upcoming elections at the last minute. It makes the promise of the Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses into a farce. It disrespects the Supreme Court’s repeated and clear command not to interfere so late in the day. This pernicious pattern is making the courts appear partisan, destabilizing federal elections, and undermining the power of the people to choose representatives to set election rules.”

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/high-courts-punt-paves-way-for-future-legal-battles-over-elections/

 

 

Democrats are generally pushing for the widest voting possible, demanding mail-balloting, extended windows to cast and count those ballots and fewer fraud checks such as signature-matching or witnesses to verify that ballots are cast legitimately.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/election-lawsuits-break-record-votes-counted/

 

 

 

And on and on and on ………….

·  Pre-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-election...

22 rows · Litigation was initiated by Democrats, seeking measures to ease voting, and Republicans, seeking to block such measures. [1] [2] [3] "[O]ver 230 election-related federal lawsuits were filed from January 1 to October 23, higher than any of the past three presidential election years during the same time period", according to a USA Today analysis. [2]

•  

STATE	FIRST FILING DATE	CASE	COURT
Arizona	September 30, 2020		U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit
Arizona	June 10, 2020	Arizona Democratic P…	U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit
California	June 11, 2020	Gallagher v. Newsom	California Superior Court, County of Sutter
Georgia	May 8, 2020	The New Georgia Proj…	U.S. District Court for the Northern Distric…

• See all 22 rows on en.wikipedia.org

·  Most highly litigated election in US history enters final ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/...

Nov 03, 2020 · A common theme emerged in the pre-election litigation: Democrats and their allies sought accommodations across the country for voters, like …

·  Election lawsuits break record before votes counted ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/...

Oct 26, 2020 · Other lawsuits are over in-person voting, postponements and the like. But the biggest chunk — about 230 cases — involve mail-in voting, said Jerrick Adams , Ballotpedia’s ballot expert.

·  Voting-related Lawsuits Pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/US-Election-2020...

Oct 10, 2020 · Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A look at some of the top lawsuits in battleground states:ARIZONA: A federal...

·  Federal election lawsuits have already set a ... - USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/...

Oct 30, 2020 · Lawsuits initiated by Democrats and advocacy groups have accused Republican election officials of purposefully curtailing the vote for constituencies that don't support them. In Minnesota, several ...

·  Voting-related lawsuits pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.timesrepublican.com/news/todays-news/...

Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A ...

·  High court's punt paves way for future legal battles over ...

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/...

The problem was bad enough when the 4th Circuit dissenters issued their opinion, citing 385 election-related lawsuits filed across the country. A mere three days later, the number had jumped to 411 lawsuits. That was the figure cited in an Oct. 23 brief from national election-integrity group True the Vote.

·  CONFIRMED: Democrats and Leftie Attorney Marc Elias Just ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/confirmed...

Sep 24, 2020 · Basically, it looks like the corrupt liberal lawyer, Marc Elias from Perkins Coie, is leading Democrats in their lawsuits around the country. The Democrats are suing all of the battleground states to change their election laws. Elias was working together with the Democrat NC Attorney General and the Democrat controlled board of elections (BOE).

Tl;dr. Biden’s president. 

QO is BACK.

Just a few inconvenient facts. 

posted by Fab4Runner

Perhaps there should be consequences for lying about a free and fair election for two months, and then inciting a violent insurrection. 

I agree, but what consequences did the democrats and media face for lying about a free and fair election of 2016 for 3.5 years and inciting violence over it?

Just curious if you had the same belief when they did it for the last 4 years?

posted by QuakerOats

“Endless suits have been brought to change the election rules set by state legislatures.” Three judges on the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals offered that assessment on Oct. 20. “This pervasive jockeying threatens to undermine public confidence in our elections. And the constant court battles make a mockery of the Constitution’s explicit delegation of this power to the state legislatures.”

 

Nearly four months later, after thousands of ballots had been cast under the rules set in June, the state elections board entered into a secretive agreement with Democratic activists. The agreement changed election rules. The board’s actions “draped a shroud of uncertainty” over this state’s elections, according to the 4th Circuit dissenters, threatening “even greater turbulence” if the rule changes were allowed to stand. “This chaos must end.”

“The victim of a last-minute interference, whatever its source, is the same: a federal election,” the 4th Circuit dissenters noted. “It is a difficult enough task to conduct an election in the middle of a pandemic without proliferating lawsuits and constantly changing rules.”

“Whenever interference occurs, it incentivizes an avalanche of partisan and destabilizing litigation against election rules duly enacted by state legislatures,” they added.

“This phenomenon is hardly unique to North Carolina,” the dissenters warned. “Around the country, courts are changing the rules of the upcoming elections at the last minute. It makes the promise of the Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses into a farce. It disrespects the Supreme Court’s repeated and clear command not to interfere so late in the day. This pernicious pattern is making the courts appear partisan, destabilizing federal elections, and undermining the power of the people to choose representatives to set election rules.”

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/high-courts-punt-paves-way-for-future-legal-battles-over-elections/

 

 

Democrats are generally pushing for the widest voting possible, demanding mail-balloting, extended windows to cast and count those ballots and fewer fraud checks such as signature-matching or witnesses to verify that ballots are cast legitimately.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/election-lawsuits-break-record-votes-counted/

 

 

 

And on and on and on ………….

·  Pre-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-election...

22 rows · Litigation was initiated by Democrats, seeking measures to ease voting, and Republicans, seeking to block such measures. [1] [2] [3] "[O]ver 230 election-related federal lawsuits were filed from January 1 to October 23, higher than any of the past three presidential election years during the same time period", according to a USA Today analysis. [2]

•  

STATE	FIRST FILING DATE	CASE	COURT
Arizona	September 30, 2020		U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit
Arizona	June 10, 2020	Arizona Democratic P…	U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit
California	June 11, 2020	Gallagher v. Newsom	California Superior Court, County of Sutter
Georgia	May 8, 2020	The New Georgia Proj…	U.S. District Court for the Northern Distric…

• See all 22 rows on en.wikipedia.org

·  Most highly litigated election in US history enters final ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/...

Nov 03, 2020 · A common theme emerged in the pre-election litigation: Democrats and their allies sought accommodations across the country for voters, like …

·  Election lawsuits break record before votes counted ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/...

Oct 26, 2020 · Other lawsuits are over in-person voting, postponements and the like. But the biggest chunk — about 230 cases — involve mail-in voting, said Jerrick Adams , Ballotpedia’s ballot expert.

·  Voting-related Lawsuits Pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/US-Election-2020...

Oct 10, 2020 · Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A look at some of the top lawsuits in battleground states:ARIZONA: A federal...

·  Federal election lawsuits have already set a ... - USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/...

Oct 30, 2020 · Lawsuits initiated by Democrats and advocacy groups have accused Republican election officials of purposefully curtailing the vote for constituencies that don't support them. In Minnesota, several ...

·  Voting-related lawsuits pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.timesrepublican.com/news/todays-news/...

Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A ...

·  High court's punt paves way for future legal battles over ...

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/...

The problem was bad enough when the 4th Circuit dissenters issued their opinion, citing 385 election-related lawsuits filed across the country. A mere three days later, the number had jumped to 411 lawsuits. That was the figure cited in an Oct. 23 brief from national election-integrity group True the Vote.

·  CONFIRMED: Democrats and Leftie Attorney Marc Elias Just ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/confirmed...

Sep 24, 2020 · Basically, it looks like the corrupt liberal lawyer, Marc Elias from Perkins Coie, is leading Democrats in their lawsuits around the country. The Democrats are suing all of the battleground states to change their election laws. Elias was working together with the Democrat NC Attorney General and the Democrat controlled board of elections (BOE).

Besides the USA Today article which merely says that there have been a lot of lawsuits from the left and right, the rest of these are sourced from not-always-reliable right wing sites.  I looked up one - True the Vote.  My favorite part of their organization is their Pray the Vote campaign - to count the number of prayers being offered for voters and fair elections.  The prayer tracker is particularly helpful.  That topic is confusing right now though.  Pat Robertson - one of many televangelists who said that God told him that Trump would win the election - recently said that Trump is living in an alternate universe and it is time for him to leave.  That's a big admission on Pat's part considering how God has previously told him all along that Trump was his Chosen One who was going to lead the US away from its sins.  So the Pray the Vote effort seems particularly trying now, at a time where God Himself cannot seem to decide who should win the election.  

posted by friendfromlowry

Tl;dr. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Tl;dr. Biden’s president. 

Don't worry -- using the Obama terms as precedent, he'll find many a thing to shift his whining to over the next few years, so he can have a new complaint every single day. It's what he does best: Impotent Tears.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/left-wing-activist-charged-in-capitol-riot

Who posted that BLM had no fingerprint on the capital protest?

posted by Fletch

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/left-wing-activist-charged-in-capitol-riot

Who posted that BLM had no fingerprint on the capital protest?

Thank goodness they got the leader of this thing! I’m glad he’s facing charges. You can tell from the pictures and quotes that he’s a real charismatic influencer. It’s too bad that Trump’s supporters were tricked into following him to DC with the zip ties and pipe bombs. 

posted by GOONx19

Thank goodness they got the leader of this thing! I’m glad he’s facing charges. You can tell from the pictures and quotes that he’s a real charismatic influencer. It’s too bad that Trump’s supporters were tricked into following him to DC with the zip ties and pipe bombs. 

I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.

Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?

posted by Fletch

I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.

Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?

Not conclusive proof, but the Trumpkin crowd posting sets of pictures of an Antifa idiot and someone who looks similar and attempting to pass them off as the same person (they are not in at least four cases I've seen) is certainly evidence.

I've still not seen a reasonable motive for people from the left crashing what was a victory party for their side.

posted by Fletch

I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.

Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?

LOL, maybe in your world. I think all of the other FBI arrests and indictments contradict your posts.