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posted by iclfan2

Why did the police let him get to his car? Why not tackle or taze him first?

Ironically, they were probably afraid of the optics given current events.  And then probably overreacted when they thought they saw him reaching for something in his car....also because of current events.

Me, personally, a cop pointing a gun at me tells me to stop....I stop and make sure he can see my hands.  That's not white privilege, that's the privilege of not being a moron.

posted by friendfromlowry

There’s apparently a warrant out for his arrest. 

And now we know why he refused orders.

He really thought he was just going to walk away and drive off?  Like I said, Darwin award.  Doesn't make the shooting justified, but if we're being honest the guy is culpable in getting himself shot.

Past criminal record, not listening to the police, walking away from the police...none are reasons to be shot by the police. 

But here on the OC, it’s “he gets a Darwin Award for being a moron that’s for sure!! Oh and can you believe people were rioting in anger after the incident? Fucking thugs!”

Be better, fellas

posted by SportsAndLady

Oh and can you believe people were rioting in anger after the incident? Fucking thugs!”

Yea, lighting a car dealership on fire and rioting is definitely a reasonable and acceptable reaction to someone getting shot by the police. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Past criminal record, not listening to the police, walking away from the police...none are reasons to be shot by the police. 

But here on the OC, it’s “he gets a Darwin Award for being a moron that’s for sure!! Oh and can you believe people were rioting in anger after the incident? Fucking thugs!”

Be better, fellas

I'm 99.99999% sure he doesn't get shot if he cooperates and follows orders.  0.0% chance the cops are just going to let him get in his car and drive off.  Yeah, this moron should have tried to be better, fella.

His actions increased his chance of being shot from 0% to probably like 50%.  That's Darwin territory, and that's a fact.  And putting all the blame on the cops really isn't helping people to not get shot by police.

No one is saying he deserved to be shot.  Please stop with your dumbass loser false equivalencies.  His actions - his choices - directly contributed to his being shot.  That's just as relevant to this story as the gross negligence of the cops.

posted by gut

I'm 99.99999% sure he doesn't get shot if he cooperates and follows orders.  0.0% chance the cops are just going to let him get in his car and drive off.  Yeah, this moron should have tried to be better, fella.

His actions increased his chance of being shot from 0% to probably like 50%.  That's Darwin territory, and that's a fact.  And putting all the blame on the cops really isn't helping people to not get shot by police.

No one is saying he deserved to be shot.  Please stop with your dumbass loser false equivalencies.  His actions - his choices - directly contributed to his being shot.  That's just as relevant to this story as the gross negligence of the cops.

Maybe the problem is the fact that the police defaulted to the use of deadly force? 

I think the larger issue is the use of deadly force and how that is more often than not, the default solution instead of other techniques. 

Would a taser or other non lethal tool been better in this situation than to shoot him 7 times? Also, 7 wow, that seems like a lot. Why did he default to shoot that many times? 

posted by gut

I'm 99.99999% sure he doesn't get shot if he cooperates and follows orders.  0.0% chance the cops are just going to let him get in his car and drive off.  Yeah, this moron should have tried to be better, fella.

His actions increased his chance of being shot from 0% to probably like 50%.  That's Darwin territory, and that's a fact.  And putting all the blame on the cops really isn't helping people to not get shot by police.

No one is saying he deserved to be shot.  Please stop with your dumbass loser false equivalencies.  His actions - his choices - directly contributed to his being shot.  That's just as relevant to this story as the gross negligence of the cops.

You’re a legitimate moron.

Yes, that’s shoot someone 7 fucking times in the back because he was driving away. I mean when instead of just letting him drive away and then you put a warrant for his arrest (and he’d be in a ton of trouble), you choose to shoot him 7 times in the back, you are definitely making the right decision. At least according to the morons on here. 

posted by iclfan2

Yea, lighting a car dealership on fire and rioting is definitely a reasonable and acceptable reaction to someone getting shot by the police. 

You’re more upset about that than you are that another cop KILLED an unarmed black dude for not listening to them. 

“If he would have just followed the cops orders, he would be alive!”

Yeah, tell that to George Floyd. Oh wait, you can’t. 

posted by SportsAndLady
You’re more upset about that than you are that another cop KILLED an unarmed black dude for not listening to them. 

As far as I know, he is still alive, which is kinda crazy. 

Still, your point remains. 

posted by SportsAndLady

You’re a legitimate moron.

Yes, that’s shoot someone 7 fucking times in the back because he was driving away. I mean when instead of just letting him drive away and then you put a warrant for his arrest (and he’d be in a ton of trouble), you choose to shoot him 7 times in the back, you are definitely making the right decision. At least according to the morons on here. 

There already was a warrant out on him.  Obviously he wasn't interested in complying with  that one.  Why would he be interested in complying with another one. 

Calling people names on here like "moron" is so weak.  What is it about having a conversation with people who have different opinions than you that makes you always feel compelled to call them morons or tell them to fuck off, etc?  You're always telling people they're sensitive.  Yet you seem to be the only one that goes third grade every time there is a disagreement.  It's a message board; people bring different points of view.  That doesn't make them a "legitimate moron".  There's not that many of us on here and you pretty much ruin for everyone. 

posted by SportsAndLady
You’re more upset about that than you are that another cop KILLED an unarmed black dude for not listening to them. 

He’s not dead. And no I responded to you bc you apparently think it’s a fine reaction to it. I posted the twitter video bc it was ironic that a sign saying BLM on it was burning. It’s ok to say the police fucked up but people also shouldn’t react to it like idiots. 

Stop and put your hands up....or ignore officer commands and reach into your car.

According to the brilliant S&L, these choices represent equally likely outcomes.  And you're a moron if you know better.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

There already was a warrant out on him.  Obviously he wasn't interested in complying with  that one.  Why would he be interested in complying with another one. 

Calling people names on here like "moron" is so weak.  What is it about having a conversation with people who have different opinions than you that makes you always feel compelled to call them morons or tell them to fuck off, etc?  You're always telling people they're sensitive.  Yet you seem to be the only one that goes third grade every time there is a disagreement.  It's a message board; people bring different points of view.  That doesn't make them a "legitimate moron".  There's not that many of us on here and you pretty much ruin for everyone. 

So you just shoot him?! 7 times?! MORON

posted by iclfan2

He’s not dead. And no I responded to you bc you apparently think it’s a fine reaction to it. I posted the twitter video bc it was ironic that a sign saying BLM on it was burning. It’s ok to say the police fucked up but people also shouldn’t react to it like idiots. 

Oh please. You post a video of BLM destroying shit...you know exactly what you’re doing. Again, I don’t support what they’re doing. But if you’re more upset over the riots that happen than the actual murder itself, you are indirectly trying to say something. 

posted by gut

Stop and put your hands up....or ignore officer commands and reach into your car.

According to the brilliant S&L, these choices represent equally likely outcomes.  And you're a moron if you know better.

Lol, you think him getting into his car where his 3 children were was enough to justify getting shot point blank 7 times. You’re a piece of shit, gut. 

posted by SportsAndLady

So you just shoot him?! 7 times?! MORON

You do the woke crowd no favors.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You do the woke crowd no favors.  

It’s not woke to say cops shouldn’t be shooting citizens 7 times for not listening to them when they present no danger at all. 

But hey, if that’s the side you want to stan for, by all means! 

posted by SportsAndLady

Lol, you think him getting into his car where his 3 children were was enough to justify getting shot point blank 7 times. You’re a piece of shit, gut. 

I never said the shooting was justified.  You're too dumb to be that obtuse.

The fact that you're practically a drooling idiot doesn't make me a piece of shit. Drop the woke routine and try thinking before you hit "submit post". 

posted by gut

I never said the shooting was justified.  You're too dumb to be that obtuse.

The fact that you're practically a drooling idiot doesn't make me a piece of shit. Drop the woke routine and try thinking before you hit "submit post". 

It's really not worth engaging when he goes on his rampages. You clearly said it wasn't justified, several times. Yet...

posted by SportsAndLady

It’s not woke to say cops shouldn’t be shooting citizens 7 times for not listening to them when they present no danger at all. 

But hey, if that’s the side you want to stan for, by all means! 

Anyone understands that it is not an either / or scenario.  

posted by justincredible

It's really not worth engaging when he goes on his rampages. You clearly said it wasn't justified, several times. Yet...

Gut posts about 5 things that say the guy got what was coming to him, but because he said it wasn’t justified one time than he’s cleared. Okay! Lol

One of the reasons I couldn't be a cop is because I'd have an itchy trigger finger. I really don't trust people in situations like we've seen -- quick movements, non-compliance, etc. I do feel obligated to protect those around me, so I'd do what I could to ensure they are protected and safe.

It has nothing to do with color. In these situations, there are likely escalated tempers (not really mine, as I do an okay job of controlling it in many situations). Not saying anyone deserves to be shot, but I do not envy police officers one bit and know I couldn't do the job properly.

posted by gut

I never said the shooting was justified.  You're too dumb to be that obtuse.

The fact that you're practically a drooling idiot doesn't make me a piece of shit. Drop the woke routine and try thinking before you hit "submit post". 

Again, being against what happened to that guy is not being “woke”

Unless of course you’re a fucking retard, than you would think that