Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 8:25 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Your only “good part” of Chicaho was magnificent mile?


No, I like Pilsen.  But you always stay in the loop.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 8:53 AM

Lol love protesting/rioting when the police did what they were supposed to do. Same people still defend Michael Brown and use the fake "hands up don't shoot" line that never even happened.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 8:56 AM

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 10:02 AM
posted by Spock

No, I like Pilsen.  But you always stay in the loop.

Go North. My buddy lives a half a mile or so North of Wrigley and it's an awesome area.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 10:10 AM
posted by jmog

Take one Brazilian Jiu Jitsu class and you will know that a knee to the neck for 8 minutes will kill people, even if they aren’t on drugs.

Don’t be stupid QO.




I didn't say the knee was not a contributing factor. In fact, I made no comment at all after posting excerpts from the article.  I also don't believe 95% of the people realize he had 3x the lethal limit of fentynal in his system. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 10:11 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Plz keep us posted on Michigan Ave’s survival. I know you’re well connected and in the loop on these things!



Great night for the Magnificent Mile last night; wonderful news for Michigan Ave and all of Chicago.


Again, the mayor should be removed from office immediately for the safety of the residents.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:08 AM
posted by iclfan2

She’s starting to annoy the piss out of me. You simply CANNOT post that tweet if you’re going to allow mass protests. Obviously you guys know my stance on all of this, so you know she’s starting to show her idiocy if I’m starting to turn on her  


jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:13 AM
posted by QuakerOats


I didn't say the knee was not a contributing factor. In fact, I made no comment at all after posting excerpts from the article.  I also don't believe 95% of the people realize he had 3x the lethal limit of fentynal in his system. 

Here’s why you are being stupid  


The knee wasn’t a “contributing factor”, it was what caused the death.


If I pull a gun and shoot someone and they die in the hospital. However while in the hospital they got tested for COVID and was positive.


Did COVID kill them or did the gun shot wound?


The knee to the neck for 8 min killed Floyd it doesn’t matter WHAT was in his system, even if it was a lethal dose and he was going to die 2 hours later from it.


A knee to the neck killed him, period. 


Don’t be stupid.


jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:14 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

She’s starting to annoy the piss out of me. You simply CANNOT post that tweet if you’re going to allow mass protests. Obviously you guys know my stance on all of this, so you know she’s starting to show her idiocy if I’m starting to turn on her  


When libertarians and conservatives on this site pointed out this same hypocrisy you labeled them racists.


Are you racist now?


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:19 AM
posted by jmog

When libertarians and conservatives on this site pointed out this same hypocrisy you labeled them racists.


Are you racist now?


LMAO  you would be a cocksucker about that post


I’m saying a public official constantly calling out chicagoans for being grouped together, but not calling out protestors is not right. She either needs to call out both, or don’t call out either one. 


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:20 AM
posted by jmog

Here’s why you are being stupid  


The knee wasn’t a “contributing factor”, it was what caused the death.


If I pull a gun and shoot someone and they die in the hospital. However while in the hospital they got tested for COVID and was positive.


Did COVID kill them or did the gun shot wound?


The knee to the neck for 8 min killed Floyd it doesn’t matter WHAT was in his system, even if it was a lethal dose and he was going to die 2 hours later from it.


A knee to the neck killed him, period. 


Don’t be stupid.


Agreed  

QO going with the “I didn’t say any of this, I was just forwarding along the article!” argument. You hate to see it


jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:27 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

LMAO  you would be a cocksucker about that post


I’m saying a public official constantly calling out chicagoans for being grouped together, but not calling out protestors is not right. She either needs to call out both, or don’t call out either one. 


And that’s what the libertarians and conservatives on this site were saying as well. Yet you had problems with them saying it.


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 11:28 AM
posted by jmog

And that’s what the libertarians and conservatives on this site were saying as well. Yet you had problems with them saying it.


I disagree. But I don’t really care about arguing with you anymore. You’re a robot, and I really don’t like you


gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 12:56 PM

So Chicago neuters its police, neuters its sentencing and prosecutions....and crime goes up.  Who knew?

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 2:53 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Agreed  

QO going with the “I didn’t say any of this, I was just forwarding along the article!” argument. You hate to see it



Did you know Floyd had 3x the lethal dose of fentynal in his system?  Additional information related to the autopsy also interesting.  Black and white facts matter.

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 3:06 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Did you know Floyd had 3x the lethal dose of fentynal in his system?  Additional information related to the autopsy also interesting.  Black and white facts matter.

And 10X the lethal dose of the Rona in his system!

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 3:11 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Did you know Floyd had 3x the lethal dose of fentynal in his system?  Additional information related to the autopsy also interesting.  Black and white facts matter.

Seemed like he was still alive despite that until the cop killed him. 


gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 3:54 PM

So I did some sleuthing the fentanyl will be an interesting argument that might be able to create enough reasonable doubt to end-up with Chauvin getting something like gross negligence for failing to provide medical aid.

George Floyd had 11 nanograms of fetanyl in his blood.  Mixed with other drugs, concentrations as low as 7.6 have resulted in death.  But the concentrations of other drugs in his body were not high, and didn't suggest recent use of more than a day or two.

For addicts with a tolerance, fatal doses can be @ 24 nanograms.  11-12 can be fatal to inexperienced users.

I'm guessing Floyd was probably not an inexperienced user, so I don't believe he had taken a fatal dose.  The argument I'm sure will be made is in combination with Covid-19 and other drugs, it could have been fatal.  And, obviously, the knee contributed.  JMOG has said several times his instructor said that move is fatal.  I'm sure the defense will have experts that claim it isn't.

Again, it's not about proving the COD.  Only creating reasonable doubt that the restraint isn't fatal without the contributing high levels of fentanyl.  This is really just about whether he'll be convicted of murder as multiple other charges pretty clearly should stick.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 5:19 PM

So the looting was caused by the cops shooting someone who was shooting at them first? 

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 5:37 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

So the looting was caused by the cops shooting someone who was shooting at them first? 

Looters dont care about the specifics, they just know they are getting away with it.

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 5:44 PM
posted by Spock

Looters dont care about the specifics, they just know they are getting away with it.

At least they finally got some good stuff.  I just SMFH when they loot the Dollar General.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 5:44 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

So the looting was caused by the cops shooting someone who was shooting at them first? 

Pretty much, yes. Although the cops said their body cameras were turned off, so we may never truly know. But I don’t think any cop, no matter how racist they may be, are shooting Black kids in the back of the head in 2020 (and especially in a neighborhood like Englewood) without being shot at first   



SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 5:46 PM

I work with several black women, and they were all furious today at the looting. They all said that with 100% certainty in their minds, the kid (he was 20, so not really a kid) shot at the police and then ran away when they shot back. And that rioting and looting because of that takes away from the peaceful protesting after the Floyd murder. 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 5:53 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

And that rioting and looting because of that takes away from the peaceful protesting after the Floyd murder. 

Clearly a right-wing conspiracy to get Trump re-elected.