Covid-19 discussion, continued...

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 11:35 AM

Some good news https://apnews.com/89d963958b042cc921e64ab3eff5a74d

I will be positive and say the 2nd wave is not going to be bad as the first wave.  The world is more prepared this time around.  

 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 11:44 AM
posted by like_that

Some good news https://apnews.com/89d963958b042cc921e64ab3eff5a74d

I will be positive and say the 2nd wave is not going to be bad as the first wave.  The world is more prepared this time around.  

 

I saw that too and agree this is good news. I also agree I doubt we spike in deaths again as we had in May-April. While the cases in the U.S. are climbing, the death toll is slooooowly trending down. We have been under 1k deaths a day since June 4th. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 11:55 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I saw that too and agree this is good news. I also agree I doubt we spike in deaths again as we had in May-April. While the cases in the U.S. are climbing, the death toll is slooooowly trending down. We have been under 1k deaths a day since June 4th. 

I hope you're correct.  The rising cases makes total sense with increased testing.  Hopefully a few months of things being opened up starts to cause some herd immunity to develop.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 12:01 PM

I had to read that article twice to understand...33% improvement in survivability if you're ventilated, or it saves 1 in 8 people.  So the better news is I guess that means 3 out of 8 people were dying on ventilators, and with this drug it's 2 out of 8.  I thought like 70-80% of people were dying on ventilators.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 12:02 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I saw that too and agree this is good news. I also agree I doubt we spike in deaths again as we had in May-April. While the cases in the U.S. are climbing, the death toll is slooooowly trending down. We have been under 1k deaths a day since June 4th. 

 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I hope you're correct.  The rising cases makes total sense with increased testing.  Hopefully a few months of things being opened up starts to cause some herd immunity to develop.

Hospitalizations have been trending down too.  This has been the case for most of the world.  That's much more important than asymptomatic positives.  The virus is never going away. 
 

 

sportchampps

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 2:39 PM
posted by gut

I had to read that article twice to understand...33% improvement in survivability if you're ventilated, or it saves 1 in 8 people.  So the better news is I guess that means 3 out of 8 people were dying on ventilators, and with this drug it's 2 out of 8.  I thought like 70-80% of people were dying on ventilators.

It was never 70-80% those were numbers used by corona doomers. I also dunno why these articles dumb everything down. It was actually 40% dying on ventilators and this drug took it down to 28%. I don’t know why they used the 1/8 and 3/8 comparisons instead of the real numbers. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 5:12 PM

I hope this is real.

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 6:22 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

I'd imagine not. They may not be asymptomatic, but they may pass the virus to someone who wouldn't be as fortunate. 

Not according to the newest research by the WHO. 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 6:39 PM
posted by justincredible

I hope this is real.

New York SLUT. I approve.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 6:58 PM
posted by jmog

Not according to the newest research by the WHO. 

True. But it’s hard to be overly confident when it seems to change every week. 

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 9:05 PM
posted by jmog

Not according to the newest research by the WHO. 

That they’ve already walked back on tho. 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 10:27 PM
posted by kizer permanente

That they’ve already walked back on tho. 

Feel like no one knows what the hell is going on with Covid. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 5:20 AM

At least not the WHO.  They have been complete trash during this entire pandemic. 

jmog

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 7:52 AM
posted by kizer permanente

That they’ve already walked back on tho. 

Yeah, political pressure will do that sometimes. 
 

notice the only things they have “walked back” are things that would be good news?

Fred Garvin

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 8:39 AM

I had the antibody test last week. The results were positive. I was not surprised. My wife tested positive for Covid late April. A week later I had the same symptoms, but tested negative. At that time my Dr. said the Covid test has a 20% false negative rate. My Dr. considered me positive, but I don't think I was added to the number count. 

I am guessing my positive antibody test will be added to the number count, but if so, that count is very deceiving. I would have had it a month and a half ago. Not now like the count would show.

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 8:58 AM
posted by Fred Garvin

I had the antibody test last week. The results were positive. I was not surprised. My wife tested positive for Covid late April. A week later I had the same symptoms, but tested negative. At that time my Dr. said the Covid test has a 20% false negative rate. My Dr. considered me positive, but I don't think I was added to the number count. 

I am guessing my positive antibody test will be added to the number count, but if so, that count is very deceiving. I would have had it a month and a half ago. Not now like the count would show.

Does Ohio count antibody testing in their positive counts? I haven't read anywhere confirming this.

Fred Garvin

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 9:04 AM
posted by kizer permanente

Does Ohio count antibody testing in their positive counts? I haven't read anywhere confirming this.

I do not know for sure. But I was told the info would go to the Health Dept., so that is my guess.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 9:07 AM
posted by kizer permanente

Does Ohio count antibody testing in their positive counts? I haven't read anywhere confirming this.

They do.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 9:07 AM

Ohio counts positive antibody test, as well as "probable" cases in their positive number counts.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 9:38 AM
posted by justincredible

Ohio counts positive antibody test, as well as "probable" cases in their positive number counts.

Do they differentiate between the two or just classify them both into "positive?"  Pretty misleading if they don't do the former. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 9:40 AM

This is from Clark County, but these definitions apply to the whole state.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 9:42 AM

Basically, the state is making it as hard as possible to find actual reporting guidelines, but Clark county is trying to be transparent about it.

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 10:43 AM
posted by justincredible

Basically, the state is making it as hard as possible to find actual reporting guidelines, but Clark county is trying to be transparent about it.

THis.

 

I feel like we here about all this 2nd spike stuff.....the only number I would really care about is how many people are actually in a hospital for it.

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 11:10 AM
posted by justincredible

Basically, the state is making it as hard as possible to find actual reporting guidelines, but Clark county is trying to be transparent about it.

So we should probably pay more attention to the new confirmed cases and not total cases.  

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Jun 17, 2020 11:57 AM

DC and other areas around in MD and VA are entering Phase 2. The area has not seen spikes from the protests, further giving evidence that protesting with masks and even being outside does not lead to a wide increase in cases. 

I'm also seeing more and more that wearing masks helps stop the spread.