posted by Spock

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/05/ortiz-gray-flatten-the-covid-19-fear/

 

I know......iTS FrOm tHE bREtbaRtZ.  But the stats are pretty telling.  90% of national Covid deaths come from 10% of US counties?

70% of Ohio deaths are nursing homes.  

 

So why are we shut down again?

I live in a VERY small town and they are dying in bunches at the local nursing home. My girlfriend is FB friends with a nurse that works there and she's posting the daily toll. It was running at a 4-6 people per day clip.

posted by BR1986FB

I live in a VERY small town and they are dying in bunches at the local nursing home. My girlfriend is FB friends with a nurse that works there and she's posting the daily toll. It was running at a 4-6 people per day clip.

Damn has to be tough.  This thing is pretty nasty for certain people.  

There is no reason most things shouldn’t be open with stipulations.

posted by iclfan2

There is no reason most things shouldn’t be open with stipulations.

I mentioned, in an earlier post, about casinos re-opening in WV/PA. Well, Mountaineer re-opened at 10am this morning and I saw pics of the line outside waiting to get in. Completely wrapped around the building. Those people are never going to get in by 2am (when they close). Plus, some people like to play together at the same machine, which is not allowed, and there's only 50% capacity. Looks like a zoo.

posted by BR1986FB

I mentioned, in an earlier post, about casinos re-opening in WV/PA. Well, Mountaineer re-opened at 10am this morning and I saw pics of the line outside waiting to get in. Completely wrapped around the building. Those people are never going to get in by 2am (when they close). Plus, some people like to play together at the same machine, which is not allowed, and there's only 50% capacity. Looks like a zoo.

Vegas apparently had a very good opening.  LOL, they used to say Vegas was recession proof!  What remains to be seen is how long this lasts - lot of gamblers who haven't been able to get their fix for months.  And money is still an issue for a lot of people, as well as getting on an airplane and traveling.

posted by Spock

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/05/ortiz-gray-flatten-the-covid-19-fear/

 

I know......iTS FrOm tHE bREtbaRtZ.  But the stats are pretty telling.  90% of national Covid deaths come from 10% of US counties?

70% of Ohio deaths are nursing homes.  

 

So why are we shut down again?

Because the stats tell us that the precautions likely worked to some degree.

The end is coming!!

My gf just got the notice her office is opening back up June 22nd. Social distancing measure and all that so half of the staff works two days, the other half the other 2 days. Fridays are flexible. 

I'm not ready at this moment, but I'm looking forward to not working from home. Very over it.

posted by gut

Vegas apparently had a very good opening.  LOL, they used to say Vegas was recession proof!  What remains to be seen is how long this lasts - lot of gamblers who haven't been able to get their fix for months.  And money is still an issue for a lot of people, as well as getting on an airplane and traveling.

From the pics I saw of the lines at Mountaineer, either there are some hardcore gamblers who have been saving for this or it didn't hit people in the pockets as much as thought. That line is ridiculous.

I know I won't be going for a while because of a) still taking a "wait & see" as to whether there are spikes with the re-openings, b) no interest in waiting in lines, c) we like to go at "vampire hours" (after 2am and that's when the casino is closing) and d) my girlfriend and I play at the same slots, alternating spins, and the new casino rule is only one person per machine. So, for the people who like to play together, the casino just increased their odds even more by making couples split their money.

If the Meadows isn't as strict with their hours we will probably try there. Saw the Rivers will be open 24/7 on weekends and until 4am during the week but no real interest in going there. Right at that exit is where all of the George Floyd protesters were.

posted by Automatik

The end is coming!!

My gf just got the notice her office is opening back up June 22nd. Social distancing measure and all that so half of the staff works two days, the other half the other 2 days. Fridays are flexible. 

I'm not ready at this moment, but I'm looking forward to not working from home. Very over it.

I'm really not looking forward to returning to my office. I'm going to make a pitch to be able to (at a minimum) work from home on Fridays.

posted by BR1986FB

From the pics I saw of the lines at Mountaineer, either there are some hardcore gamblers who have been saving for this or it didn't hit people in the pockets as much as thought. That line is ridiculous.

Remains to be seen.  People with a problem will spend their last dime on gambling.  Also, a lot of your higher paid professionals continued working from home and didn't take much of a hit.  The market has recovered most of its losses, so people don't have to feel poor.  The unemployment hasn't hit home values yet.  And last but far from least, the stimulus checks paid your average line worker most, and in some cases more, of their wages - federally funded 2+ month vacation.  I think casino business will boom for a month or two and then fall off a cliff to Great Recession levels.

I firmly believe there will be a double-dip.  A recession was long overdue, and I don't think you can have a recession without actually having one.  And the longer term problem is the travel & retail sector will probably be slow to recover, while thousands of restaurants & retail shops are probably done for good.  Unemployment will improve, but I don't see how we're getting back anywhere close to @5% (which was, historically, considered a very healthy economy).

posted by BR1986FB

I'm really not looking forward to returning to my office. I'm going to make a pitch to be able to (at a minimum) work from home on Fridays.

I think increased flexibility for WFH will be the new norm and I'm all for it. WFH is great, but for this long me and my gf...it's a miracle we are still together.

I always thought I would love 100% WFH, I was wrong. I could do it if some travel was involved, I need to get the hell out of the house.

posted by Automatik

I think increased flexibility for WFH will be the new norm and I'm all for it. WFH is great, but for this long me and my gf...it's a miracle we are still together.

I always thought I would love 100% WFH, I was wrong. I could do it if some travel was involved, I need to get the hell out of the house.

My girlfriend wants to kill me. When I was at the office she was either babysitting grandkids or could stream Netflix to watch what she wanted on days off. Now, at least one of the parents of the grandkids is home and she can't watch Netflix because the streaming messes up my phone app that's connected to my computer. She's counting down the days until I go back.

I hope my wife’s company goes full time WFH. In the last few weeks a lot of companies in her industry have. I can do my job anywhere so it would give us the ability to relocate. 
 

We would probably move to a suburb of Nashville ASAP if they make the announcement. 

Health Experts quote: “As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for Covid 19 transmission... This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders”. K, go fuck yourselves. 
 

In other news, Arizona seems to be popping off with new Corona cases. 

posted by iclfan2

In other news, Arizona seems to be popping off with new Corona cases. 

Hard to tell if increases aren't driven by more testing. Looking at deaths, which is as objective a measure as we have, it's still trending down.  But that lags by 4-5 weeks.

I think the last projection the "experts" made was 3000 deaths a day by June.  We're running about 1/3 of that.

posted by iclfan2

Health Experts quote: “As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for Covid 19 transmission... This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders”. K, go fuck yourselves.

Along those lines, I guess Covid-19 stopped being racist and decided to "take a knee" with the protestors.

Sick of seeing numbers....let's add some context to this.  Are they young? Old? Symptomatic?  

The WHO has handled this horribly, so grain of salt, but this seems significant if true: "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

posted by iclfan2

The WHO has handled this horribly, so grain of salt, but this seems significant if true: "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

A lot of people silent on this news. I still can't believe how many people are out there claiming how deadly this virus is and will continue to be. Some calling for extending the lockdown or even another lockdown because of a second wave.

posted by iclfan2

The WHO has handled this horribly, so grain of salt, but this seems significant if true: "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

That’s very good news

Think that fear was the most scary of all this (asymptomstic spreading it)

posted by OSH

A lot of people silent on this news. I still can't believe how many people are out there claiming how deadly this virus is and will continue to be. Some calling for extending the lockdown or even another lockdown because of a second wave.

The lockdown was shown to be a complete overreaction by week 2.  There was nothing to justify it beyond that, except that the people who enacted it had too much ego involved to reverse course. 

posted by OSH

A lot of people silent on this news. I still can't believe how many people are out there claiming how deadly this virus is and will continue to be. Some calling for extending the lockdown or even another lockdown because of a second wave.

That's not a surprise - as the news on this gets better, the issue has become more political driven (until it got upstaged).

It kind of makes sense for people questioning how effective the lockdowns were.  So it would have done little, except to spread it to your family members who probably would have gotten it from you, anyway.

Of course, the problem will continue to be people recognizing symptoms and taking steps to isolate themselves.  Or simply ignoring symptoms and failing to take precautions because they're selfish assholes.

Look for this news to get VERY politicized in the coming days.  People on the right are going to argue this supports ending all restrictions and measures now.  While people on the left will insist everything needs to persevere until we reach completely unrealistic goals of testing and contact tracing.

It got Dick Goddard 

posted by gut

Look for this news to get VERY politicized in the coming days.  People on the right are going to argue this supports ending all restrictions and measures now.  While people on the left will insist everything needs to persevere until we reach completely unrealistic goals of testing and contact tracing.

I feel like it's already been this way for weeks. People on Reddit have been fucking insufferable about it. 

DeWine: Gonna open up restaurants next week
Redditor: (with 196 upvotes) Well here comes the second wave of death good luck to hospitals keeping up!! 

posted by friendfromlowry

I feel like it's already been this way for weeks. People on Reddit have been fucking insufferable about it. 

DeWine: Gonna open up restaurants next week
Redditor: (with 196 upvotes) Well here comes the second wave of death good luck to hospitals keeping up!! 

Reddit is an absolute cesspool of liberal garbage. I used to love that site. Everything is so political and left-wing, really ruined it for me.