Covid-19 discussion, continued...

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Fri, Mar 12, 2021 1:38 PM
posted by Spock

He is the most cringe worthy person ever.  Painful to watch his inability to articulate anything.

Are you familiar with irony?


Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Mar 12, 2021 1:54 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

Are you familiar with irony?


Posting history says that's a definite no. All caps, multiple exclamation points and lots of laughing to go with it.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Mar 12, 2021 1:56 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

Are you familiar with irony?


Hell yeah.  Mom told me to go to my job interview with my shirt this way.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Mar 12, 2021 1:57 PM

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Mar 12, 2021 3:45 PM

NCAA tournament is going to be loads of fun when teams keep having to drop out because someone tested positive. 

BRF

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 12:30 PM

The wife and I finally got our first shot today (Moderna).  ðŸ˜€

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 1:26 PM
posted by Spock

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/03/13/fauci-i-might-modify-statements-about-vaccinated-people-transmitting-virus-in-a-few-months-to-say-it-would-be-extremely-unusual/


Fauci "might" modify things.....he can straight fuck off.  I thought science determined that.  Science isnt going to change 

Just keep on letting that Breitbart get you all fired up. It's good for your long-term health and peace of mind. 

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 1:59 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Just keep on letting that Breitbart get you all fired up. It's good for your long-term health and peace of mind. 

Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem is here.  The trial data didn't tell us anything about asymptomatic transmission, because they only tested people who had symptoms.

Now we're getting more data, and with contract tracing it looks like people who have been vaccinated aren't spreading virus.  And whether they can still get an asymptomatic infection isn't all that relevant if they aren't spreading it.

His position here seems to be extremely conservative, but that's kind of how doctors are, especially with deadly pandemics.  Opening everything up while still requiring masks and social distancing seems more than sufficient at this point.  And, IMO, we should be back to normal by the end of May.  Of course, some of the nanny states/cities will probably keep mandates in place until at least the fall.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 2:10 PM

Meanwhile....everyone was cheering the "superior" EU response to the pandemic, despite virtually no evidence they handled it better than the US.  And now their cases are rising, spurring NEW lockdowns while the pandemic in the US is dropping like a rock.  So much for the "superior healthcare" in the EU...

Also, Astrazeneca vax is being pulled after a number of cases of severe blood clots.  South Africa had already rejected it because it had minimal effectiveness against the new variant there.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 3:42 PM
posted by gut

Meanwhile....everyone was cheering the "superior" EU response to the pandemic, despite virtually no evidence they handled it better than the US.  And now their cases are rising, spurring NEW lockdowns while the pandemic in the US is dropping like a rock.  So much for the "superior healthcare" in the EU...

Also, Astrazeneca vax is being pulled after a number of cases of severe blood clots.  South Africa had already rejected it because it had minimal effectiveness against the new variant there.

Most EU countries have been on tight restrictions  and lockdowns since November.  There is nothing new about these lockdowns.  Lockdowns and restrictions have been a failure policy for over a year now, yet politcians can't think of any other "solutions."

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 4:01 PM
posted by like_that

Lockdowns and restrictions have been a failure policy for over a year now, yet politcians can't think of any other "solutions."

What's going to happen when we have the true 1 in a 100 year pandemic?  Something that will be 10-20X as deadly as Covid and wipe out 10% of the global population.  It is a very real possibility, probably within the next 20 years, because we've seen that mortality with SARS and MERS already, and now the transmissability with Covid.

We've seen that these pseduo-lockdowns don't accomplish much.  At the same time, you can't shutdown basic services.  And in that scenario, how do you even keep the supply chains open?  Extreme preppers don't look so crazy any more...

Spock

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 4:36 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Just keep on letting that Breitbart get you all fired up. It's good for your long-term health and peace of mind. 

Oh so does where the link comes form mitigate the fact that he actually said that?  No it doesnt.  Fauci is an idiot and obviously isnt the smartest person in the room

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 5:04 PM
posted by Spock

Oh so does where the link comes form mitigate the fact that he actually said that?  No it doesnt.  Fauci is an idiot and obviously isnt the smartest person in the room

All I'm saying is that I wasn't aware and didn't care about what he said until you predictably got irate after reading about it. My day's going fine and he has no impact on it. 

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 5:28 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

All I'm saying is that I wasn't aware and didn't care about what he said until you predictably got irate after reading about it. My day's going fine and he has no impact on it. 

It's also kind of irrelevant because mask and distancing mandates aren't going away until [guessing] at least 60% of the population has been vaccinated.  I don't see that happening in the next few months before Fauci has the data to render a scientific opinion.

Basically, all Fauci said was "I strongly suspect this...but don't have the data to issue an official recommendation".  I really don't understand what's so objectionable about that.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 6:10 PM

Celebrating day 365 of 15 days to slow the spread at a bar. They don’t require masks even though Dewine does. Don’t tell SnL. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 10:15 PM
posted by gut

Basically, all Fauci said was "I strongly suspect this...but don't have the data to issue an official recommendation".  I really don't understand what's so objectionable about that.

Nothing. Spock just likes to whine. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 13, 2021 10:21 PM

Got together for my dads birthday today and had a picture taken of him and my sister. All three of us are fully vaccinated. My family has been very cautious with all of this, even to extents I haven’t always been a fan of. Just crazy to think exactly a year ago group pictures wouldn’t be happening for a long time. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sun, Mar 14, 2021 3:44 AM
posted by gut

What's going to happen when we have the true 1 in a 100 year pandemic?  Something that will be 10-20X as deadly as Covid and wipe out 10% of the global population.  It is a very real possibility, probably within the next 20 years, because we've seen that mortality with SARS and MERS already, and now the transmissability with Covid.

We've seen that these pseduo-lockdowns don't accomplish much.  At the same time, you can't shutdown basic services.  And in that scenario, how do you even keep the supply chains open?  Extreme preppers don't look so crazy any more...

Might as well just nuke China at that point.

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Mar 14, 2021 4:35 AM
posted by like_that

Might as well just nuke China at that point.

Noted.  Socks and Cheerios say "Fuck You"

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sun, Mar 14, 2021 7:25 PM
posted by Spock

I guess the statistics of science are hard for people to understand, i.e. Fauci.

Problem with stuff like this is that you can find another state with lots of strict COVID rules like California that is doing better than another one with relatively lax rules. This all seems anecdotal and I think it will probably be some time before it can definitively said what was the best course of action. 

Fletch

Member

Sun, Mar 14, 2021 8:10 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Problem with stuff like this is that you can find another state with lots of strict COVID rules like California that is doing better than another one with relatively lax rules. This all seems anecdotal and I think it will probably be some time before it can definitively said what was the best course of action. 

I doubt that you will find that.  California has locked down pretty hard.  But go ahead and try to find one.


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sun, Mar 14, 2021 8:17 PM
posted by Fletch

I doubt that you will find that.  California has locked down pretty hard.  But go ahead and try to find one.


I'm not defending California and I'm glad my state wasn't like that. I just think it's probably not accurate to judge the effectiveness of an approach this soon.