It sucks that, as we start to ramp things up again, you and your friends could do a great job of responsibly limiting gatherings... But all it takes is one idiot who goes to a house party, joins your small group event, and all of a sudden you've got a dozen new asymptomatic carries who spread it to their own work and friend groups. The singular morons have an incredible ability to fuck it up again.

posted by GOONx19

It sucks that, as we start to ramp things up again, you and your friends could do a great job of responsibly limiting gatherings... But all it takes is one idiot who goes to a house party, joins your small group event, and all of a sudden you've got a dozen new asymptomatic carries who spread it to their own work and friend groups. The singular morons have an incredible ability to fuck it up again.

Couldn't it just as easily be spread accidentally by someone at a small group event who picked it up at the grocery store by someone who didn't realize they had it, which then gets spread to another small group event, and so on, and so on?

This scenario doesn't take a giant house party to spread like crazy.

I cant stand listening to that Acton lady.  She sounds like she doent even know what she is talking about.

As for cases and testing, she said something a few days ago that struck me as odd.....when talking about new cases she said something to the affect:

"the way that we are classifying new cases and counting "possible" cases make the numbers go up"

So basically she wants anyone that has symptoms to be coded as positive regardless of testing or not.  

https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-epicenter-wuhan-raises-number-of-virus-dead-by-1290

I bet you can multiply those numbers by 5 or 6 and you might get close.  Adding a few thousand now is just white washing .

posted by O-Trap

I have to wonder how many of the people at these protests blocking traffic were the ones bitching about the climate protestors doing the same thing in October under the auspices of it being selfish and harming to regular people.

I would guess all of them.

posted by Spock

I cant stand listening to that Acton lady.  She sounds like she doent even know what she is talking about.

FFS man. 

posted by Spock

I cant stand listening to that Acton lady.  She sounds like she doent even know what she is talking about.

 

As for cases and testing, she said something a few days ago that struck me as odd.....when talking about new cases she said something to the affect:

 

"the way that we are classifying new cases and counting "possible" cases make the numbers go up"

 

So basically she wants anyone that has symptoms to be coded as positive regardless of testing or not.  

The reason for the huge spike in deaths the last few days for the whole country is because now we report COVID-19 deaths as anyone they SUSPECT died from it. No need to confirm with a test first.

New York City added something like 6000 deaths in the last couple days all from "suspected" cases, not confirmed.

Wait.

I thought we were supposed to be seeing 10K new cases/day in Ohio by  now.....

I'm seeing so many dumbass posts regarding that.

"IF YOU DIED IN A CAR WRECK, BUT YOU HAD COVID, THEY LIST CAUSE OF DEATH AS COVID! OMG BS!!"

I get how it would rustle some jimmies, but bottom line. If you had a prexisting condition and you got the rona, you died from it. It's not hard.

Some not so good news, my friends grandfather passed last week. From Westchester. Mid-70s, in decent health from what I was told. She wasn't able to see him at the end :/

posted by Spock

She sounds like she doent even know what she is talking about.

we all feel the same way about you

Going along with the current rumors, the 2008 Nobel Prize winner for medicine claims the virus was man made. The doctor discovered HIV back in 1983. 

According to the 2008 Nobel Prize for Medicine, a plausible explanation would be an accident in the Wuhan laboratory. He also added that the purpose of this work was the search for an AIDS vaccine.

posted by jmog

The reason for the huge spike in deaths the last few days for the whole country is because now we report COVID-19 deaths as anyone they SUSPECT died from it. No need to confirm with a test first.

 

New York City added something like 6000 deaths in the last couple days all from "suspected" cases, not confirmed.

It's pretty easy to understand. Would they be dead right now if they hadn't contracted COVID-19? 99.9% would not be, therefore they died of COVID-19. 

posted by Automatik

I'm seeing so many dumbass posts regarding that.

"IF YOU DIED IN A CAR WRECK, BUT YOU HAD COVID, THEY LIST CAUSE OF DEATH AS COVID! OMG BS!!"

 

I get how it would rustle some jimmies, but bottom line. If you had a prexisting condition and you got the rona, you died from it. It's not hard.

 

Some not so good news, my friends grandfather passed last week. From Westchester. Mid-70s, in decent health from what I was told. She wasn't able to see him at the end :/

700WLW had some health/fitness guy on yesterday and I caught a few minutes.

The discussion started regarding an article saying that 10,000 steps per day is not needed and you can get the benefit from around 4K or so.

Discussion then turned to if this will scare/motivate more people to live a healthier lifestyle moving forward because the boogeyman has been extremely cruel to those with underlying health conditions that often times were the result of living an unhealthy lifestyle (many, not all).

I can foresee the fitness industry really using this to promote a healthy lifestyle moving forward, but the question is will this spurn more people to make lifestyle changes?

I wonder how it affects diabetics. I saw that was an underlying condition to watch out for, but that's it...not much detail.

Diabetes is all throughout my family on my mom's side. Mom, grandmother, and uncle are all Type 1.

posted by Automatik

I wonder how it affects diabetics. I saw that was an underlying condition to watch out for, but that's it...not much detail.

Diabetes is all throughout my family on my mom's side. Mom, grandmother, and uncle are all Type 1.

Yeah, some conditions people cannot get away from, but many can be avoided or slightly reduced.   
We will see how it goes moving forward if this truly was a catalyst for folks to start trending to the healthier side....

posted by thavoice

700WLW had some health/fitness guy on yesterday and I caught a few minutes.

The discussion started regarding an article saying that 10,000 steps per day is not needed and you can get the benefit from around 4K or so.

Discussion then turned to if this will scare/motivate more people to live a healthier lifestyle moving forward because the boogeyman has been extremely cruel to those with underlying health conditions that often times were the result of living an unhealthy lifestyle (many, not all).

 

I can foresee the fitness industry really using this to promote a healthy lifestyle moving forward, but the question is will this spurn more people to make lifestyle changes?

Wtf are you even typing? None of that has anything to do with his post. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Wtf are you even typing? None of that has anything to do with his post. 

Absolutely it does, and just goes to prove my point that I could post that the earth is round and you would dispute that.

COVID19 discusion.   

Those with underlying conditions are more prone to die when they contract it.

How do people get many of those underlying conditions?

Unhealthy lifestyle.

How do you avoid an unhealthy lifestyle?

More exercise, healthier living.

I no, reeding comprehension is tuff.

Thread police gon get ya.

posted by justincredible

Thread police gon get ya.

Because a turd like sportslady?

Have to give him credit though with how well he can type with his head stuck so far up his ass.

posted by Fab4Runner

It's pretty easy to understand. Would they be dead right now if they hadn't contracted COVID-19? 99.9% would not be, therefore they died of COVID-19. 

Some people have many issues, so there is often some subjectivity in the official cause of death. Suppose a patient has the following conditions. Was it his bad heart, diabetes, cancer, or COVID-19 that ultimately killed him? In reality, they probably all contributed. So the official cause of death is whichever they feel like choosing.

posted by Fab4Runner

It's pretty easy to understand. Would they be dead right now if they hadn't contracted COVID-19? 99.9% would not be, therefore they died of COVID-19. 

Some people have many issues, so there is often some subjectivity in the official cause of death. Suppose a patient has the following conditions. Was it his bad heart, diabetes, cancer, or COVID-19 that ultimately killed him? In reality, they probably all contributed. So the official cause of death is whichever they feel like choosing.

posted by Automatik

I wonder how it affects diabetics. I saw that was an underlying condition to watch out for, but that's it...not much detail.

Diabetes is all throughout my family on my mom's side. Mom, grandmother, and uncle are all Type 1.

My daughter has Type 1.  

https://www.jdrf.org/coronavirus/

• Having T1D does NOT make you more susceptible to contracting COVID-19.
  • Current evidence suggests that individuals with well-managed T1D are NOT at higher risk of contracting COVID-19.
  • Experts further say that if someone with well-managed T1D does contract COVID-19, they are not necessarily at higher risk of developing serious complications from the disease. 
  • Those at greatest risk are people with consistently elevated blood sugar levels and those with a second chronic disease (such as heart disease or lung disease).
  • For a detailed explanation, please read this blog or  view this video from leading national endocrinologist, Dr. Anne L. Peters.
  • If you have T1D and do become ill, with any virus, you must take special care of you and your T1D (see below).

• Monitor your blood glucose and ketones more than usual.
  • When you’re under the weather, you may not feel like eating or drinking much, and you may be taking medication to address symptoms such as fever and muscle aches.
  • For all of those reasons, it is crucial to carefully monitor your blood glucose and ketones more often than usual, as often as every four hours. Check your continuous glucose monitor (CGM) if you have one, or frequently use finger sticks. It may be necessary to take extra insulin to bring down higher blood glucose levels.
  • Be on the lookout for ketones, as very high levels could lead to diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA), a dangerous condition that demands immediate medical attention, and can be fatal if left untreated.
  • Elevated ketone levels often occur when blood sugar readings are high. This can be a sign that the body is using fat and muscle for energy, instead of sugar.
  • Other signs of DKA include flu-like symptoms (feeling tired, weak, aches, nausea or vomiting, abdominal pain), dehydration and also a fruity smell to the breath with more rapid breathing, which happens when the body is trying to eliminate the ketones and acid.
  • If you have vomiting, moderate or large ketones, symptoms of DKA, contact your healthcare provider immediately.

• It is more important than ever to continue a normal schedule of medications.
  • This can be challenging when you feel sick, especially if you’re having a hard time keeping food and liquid down.
  • Beyond insulin, many over-the-counter (OTC) medications also affect blood glucose levels. Though there are some sugar-free cough syrups on the market, many such syrups contain sugar, which only exacerbates already high blood glucose levels.
  • Pills taken orally—that have the same ingredients as syrups—can be a better choice if they contain no carbohydrates.
  • Other drugs like decongestants also raise blood glucose.
  • Be aware of the effects of pain and fever reducers, too.
    • Aspirin in large doses can lower blood glucose levels.
    • Acetaminophen can cause false or no readings in CGMs, and can be toxic to the liver and kidneys. Anyone kidney complications should be cautious about using these drugs with acetaminophen.
    • Ibuprofen should also be handled with care as it increases the hypoglycemic effect of insulin.

• Stock your cabinets with items that will help you keep up your carbohydrate intake in a healthy way.
  • Foods like crackers, vegetable or noodle soups, unsweetened applesauce, or fruit-flavored yogurt are all easy-on-the-stomach selections.
  • If those mild foods prove difficult to swallow, liquids can be a short-term solution.
  • If blood sugars are in range, start with drinks that contain carbohydrates, and plan to consume something every three to four hours. Options include fruit juices such as orange or cranberry, sports drinks and regular soft drinks.
  • It’s important to stay well hydrated, especially when ketones are present, to flush them out. Increase your intake of carb-free choices like water, broth, and sugar-free gelatin, popsicles or soft drinks.

• Be prepared, just in case. 
  • It is vital to be ready for the worst, even if (hopefully) you never experience it.
  • Ensure that you have diabetes medical supplies on hand and have access to refills in the event that you are quarantined. 
  • Have your doctor’s phone numbers (including how to reach them at night and on weekends or holidays) ready in case you encounter these symptoms: vomiting or diarrhea for more than six hours; shortness of breath; a fever that won’t go away after a couple of days; large levels of ketones; and inability to keep food or liquid down and are experiencing hypoglycemia.
  • For children, call a doctor if they: have trouble breathing or exhibit blue lips; won’t eat or drink; experience severe ear pain (this may indicate an ear infection); and are much more sleepy than usual.
  • If you end up at the emergency room, it is vital that you mention that you or your loved one has T1D, and have an ID bracelet prominently displayed.

posted by thavoice

Because a turd like sportslady?

Have to give him credit though with how well he can type with his head stuck so far up his ass.

He's the thread police, dummy.

posted by Al Bundy

Some people have many issues, so there is often some subjectivity in the official cause of death. Suppose a patient has the following conditions. Was it his bad heart, diabetes, cancer, or COVID-19 that ultimately killed him? In reality, they probably all contributed. So the official cause of death is whichever they feel like choosing.

Again, the vast majority of these people would still be alive had they not contracted COVID-19. I don't know why people are struggling with this. 

posted by justincredible

Thread police gon get ya.

Jesus you really are butthurt about my comments on leaving the apartment. Ya hate to see it.