posted by O-Trap

Not the sort of thing we should base on feeling, I'd wager.

This. 

posted by queencitybuckeye

In the short term, they're worth more than many professionals.

That's kind of like calling doctors and nurses "heroes" because they show up for work to do their job.

With 20M people filing unemployment, the guy bagging your groceries is HIGHLY replaceable.

posted by gut

That's kind of like calling doctors and nurses "heroes" because they show up for work to do their job.

With 20M people filing unemployment, the guy bagging your groceries is HIGHLY replaceable.

Why would someone choose $12 an hour to work in this when they can make double on unemployment?

Over 1100 today

posted by Rotinaj

Why would someone choose $12 an hour to work in this when they can make double on unemployment?

I don't disagree with that.  I haven't read all the details on the $600, but I thought it was intended to make people "whole" who were out of work because of the coronavirus.  Unemployment is typically capped at between $300-$500 a week, depending on your state.  The $600 was because a lot of people finding themselves without a paycheck were making $1000-$2000 a week or more. 

So I'm not sure the grocery bagger is eligible for the $600.  Otherwise, I agree what would be the incentive to go to work for $500 per week?  The other side of that coin is if you voluntarily quit, you've typically not been eligible for anything.

Seeing the huge lines for food banks, I'm guessing grocery stores have received hundreds, if not thousands, of applications.

posted by gut

I don't disagree with that.  I haven't read all the details on the $600, but I thought it was intended to make people "whole" who were out of work because of the coronavirus.  Unemployment is typically capped at between $300-$500 a week, depending on your state.  The $600 was because a lot of people finding themselves without a paycheck were making $1000-$2000 a week or more. 

So I'm not sure the grocery bagger is eligible for the $600.  Otherwise, I agree what would be the incentive to go to work for $500 per week?  The other side of that coin is if you voluntarily quit, you've typically not been eligible for anything.

Seeing the huge lines for food banks, I'm guessing grocery stores have received hundreds, if not thousands, of applications.

As long as a worker makes around $250 a week they get what they would normally qualify for plus the $600. It’s fine in the short term but it can’t be a long term deal because it takes away the incentive for a lot of people to take jobs like grocery stores vs staying home.

I love how the majority complain about Florida beaches being open (super low chance of getting it) and fail to mention that NY subways are still running (bigger Petri dishes then cruises).

posted by iclfan2

I love how the majority complain about Florida beaches being open (super low chance of getting it) and fail to mention that NY subways are still running (bigger Petri dishes then cruises).

Bro-science says sunlight is a great disinfectant.  That said, I haven't been able to figure out why what happened in NY didn't happen in SF, or LA.  Maybe there is something [hopefully] to warmer weather and sunshine.

There's also a number of studies out indicating 10%, 15% maybe even 30% of the population has already had this.  Other interesting numbers is over 5% of the NYPD have tested positive, and about 2.25% of Chicago PD.  So to claim at least 5-10% of the population has had this is a pretty reasonable assumption.

posted by O-Trap

Not the sort of thing we should base on feeling, I'd wager.

Probably not, but all of these give away programs are based upon feelings.

posted by gut

That said, I haven't been able to figure out why what happened in NY didn't happen in SF, or LA. 

Wasn't Cali more proactive than NY?

posted by ernest_t_bass

Wasn't Cali more proactive than NY?

Yes, but we're talking only several days ahead.  I'm not sure we can really explain why NY has the highest density of cases in the world.  Chicago is probably a better comparison, and most of the big cities with major international airports seem to have similar issues (not counting NY/NJ, obviously).

I was thinking SF had a ton of traffic coming from China before any lockdown.  Hard to explain with international travel alone - why wouldn't Boston or Miami, or especially Chicago with 2 major airports, be like NY if the vector was Italy/Europe?

posted by Al Bundy

Probably not, but all of these give away programs are based upon feelings.

Funny how that Chinese wet market where they say this started is up and running but the Wuhan lab is on total lock down.

posted by Spock

Funny how that Chinese wet market where they say this started is up and running but the Wuhan lab is on total lock down.

Had heard that South Koreans have been getting re-infected?

This should be interesting...

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/local-racetrack-opening-regardless-of-government-orders-owner-says/

posted by Spock

Funny how that Chinese wet market where they say this started is up and running but the Wuhan lab is on total lock down.

Isn't a Level 4 infectious disease lab supposed to be on lockdown?  LOL

posted by BR1986FB

This should be interesting...

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/local-racetrack-opening-regardless-of-government-orders-owner-says/

Something tells me that dude is a huge douchebag irl. 

posted by kizer permanente

Something tells me that dude is a huge douchebag irl. 

Oh 100%
That guy 100% sucks. 

posted by kizer permanente

Something tells me that dude is a huge douchebag irl. 

I heard this guy on a radio interview, and he did come across as a douchebag. His plan is to open the track in June or July, so I would expect that he will be allowed to open. If we are still under lockdown in 2 months, I think that you could possibly see many businesses open out of desperation to survive.

posted by iclfan2

I love how the majority complain about Florida beaches being open (super low chance of getting it) and fail to mention that NY subways are still running (bigger Petri dishes then cruises).

No subways = essential workers can’t get to work. 

posted by Automatik

No subways = essential workers can’t get to work. 

I don’t disagree, but don’t be douchebags complaining about people on beaches, not even close to each other, when there are people cramped into dirty ass subway cars. (Not saying you did)

And from my own experience the subways have been very dead and that was back on March 10th. I’m sure it’s changed some due to changing the schedules.

I’ve seen the vids or people on Florida beaches throughout this entire situation. Not much social distancing. It’s idiotic. That’s not complaining, just fact. 

posted by iclfan2

I don’t disagree, but don’t be douchebags complaining about people on beaches, not even close to each other, when there are people cramped into dirty ass subway cars. (Not saying you did)

You don’t think the people on beaches aren’t close to each other? Have you seen the pictures? 

posted by SportsAndLady

You don’t think the people on beaches aren’t close to each other? Have you seen the pictures? 

The pictures from The NY Times weren’t from that actual day. (2 days ago) Weird the media would ever do that. But if you search twitter you will see pictures of what the beach actually looked like that day. They have police making sure people aren’t all over each other and you aren’t allowed to sunbathe or be in groups. they were being idiots prior to the beaches being closed (not necessarily Jax but the spring break locals).

You’re way more likely to catch it literally anywhere inside than outdoors. Unless you think someone is going to sneeze into your mouth while outside or you lick someone. 

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