posted by Spockyada yada yada.....do you have anything of worth to add to this? Prove me wrong.
Attacking your idiocy adds more to a discussion than anything you ever say.
posted by queencitybuckeyeAre you really this stupid, or do you play it up online? Serious question.
IT WAS A NEWS STORY THIS MORNING ON THE RADIO. STFU IF YOU DONT HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.
https://news.yahoo.com/covid-vaccine-cards-reminder-2nd-144908874.html
I bet you wont get into a sporting event or buy concert tickets without proof.
posted by friendfromlowryProve what wrong? There’s a 93% compliance at businesses they can go in and observe. There’s no outbreaks from gas stations and Meijer. It’s all from private gatherings. And I’m gonna trust myself on this one over you because I see and talk to Covid patients every day. The story is all the same. “Got together with friends or family, someone had Covid? No one knew. Now I’m sitting here unable to catch my breath.”
I don’t know why people like you get so uptight about this.
If nearly everyone is wearing masks outside of their home, then how is that family member that gave it to “you” at the family gathering getting it in the first place?
I am not saying masks don’t work, but I am seeing many in the health field questioning this same thing I am right now.
How are people getting it with 95% mask compliance?
The “home gatherings” still means someone got it from outside the home.
Stop making sense, you will be vilified.
posted by jmogIf nearly everyone is wearing masks outside of their home, then how is that family member that gave it to “you” at the family gathering getting it in the first place?
I am not saying masks don’t work, but I am seeing many in the health field questioning this same thing I am right now.
How are people getting it with 95% mask compliance?
The “home gatherings” still means someone got it from outside the home.
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posted by jmogIf nearly everyone is wearing masks outside of their home, then how is that family member that gave it to “you” at the family gathering getting it in the first place?
I am not saying masks don’t work, but I am seeing many in the health field questioning this same thing I am right now.
How are people getting it with 95% mask compliance?
The “home gatherings” still means someone got it from outside the home.
Masks slow down the spread. They don't stop the spread.
posted by Al BundyMasks slow down the spread. They don't stop the spread.
Yeah, it's really not that difficult. Some masks are better than others, but beyond a certain time your exposure is still high enough to contract it even if wearing a mask, especially if you aren't distancing.
And I see a lot of people still wearing masks wrong (not covering their nose, etc).
posted by SpockIT WAS A NEWS STORY THIS MORNING ON THE RADIO. STFU IF YOU DONT HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.
There was no "news story on the radio" that say that masks don't work. STFU if your lack of basic comprehension of English is that poor.
posted by QuakerOatsStop making sense, you will be vilified.
He made an argument similar to this:
Condoms lessen the instances of STD transmission. Frank wears condoms. Frank got herpes. Therefore condoms don't work.
Or this:
"Before seatbelts were in use, an accident like this would kill the driver 90% of the time. With the use of a seatbelt, a driver in this type of accident would die 25% of the time. Therefore seatbelts don't work."
How is this "making sense"?
posted by queencitybuckeyeThere was no "news story on the radio" that say that masks don't work. STFU if your lack of basic comprehension of English is that poor.
oh you must have been in my truck this morning when the story came on and I didnt hear what they said.
posted by Al BundyMasks slow down the spread. They don't stop the spread.
Current evidence says other wise. 95% mask compliance and it is spreading as bad or worse than the first wave back in April when no one wore masks.
posted by jmogCurrent evidence says other wise. 95% mask compliance and it is spreading as bad or worse than the first wave back in April when no one wore masks.
It spreads faster because more people have it. You claim to be educated, but you don't even understand how exponential growth works.
posted by Al BundyIt spreads faster because more people have it. You claim to be educated, but you don't even understand how exponential growth works.
You just made his point. Wearing masks and more people have it. Most of you need to stop attacking the posters to disprove them. Not worth reading. The argument that the drakonian measures aren’t working is looking more and more true.
Seems a little dramatic to call it drakonian (draconian too.)
posted by Al BundyIt spreads faster because more people have it. You claim to be educated, but you don't even understand how exponential growth works.
Lol, rather funny. First if you look at the spread data in cases per day it is not exponential at all. If you believe that then you have never seen an exponential graph.
From February to now it is more of a hybrid of 3 normal statistical distributions merged together with varying amplitudes.
If you believe it’s exponential then you truly have no idea what you are talking about.
Even the total cases over time is not exponential it is logarithmic which can be mistaken for exponential in the beginning of an infection, but it always levels off which makes it logarithmic.
So again, who isn’t educated?
posted by Al BundyIt spreads faster because more people have it. You claim to be educated, but you don't even understand how exponential growth works.
Also, Fletch is right. While trying to sound smart and attacking me, you actually proved my point.
More people have it in a time when the vast majority of people are wearing masks and more people, by far, are adhering to mask wearing than during either of the other 2 waves.
So the fact, as you point out, that more people have it, actually is evidence on my side of the point.
posted by jmogMore people have it in a time when the vast majority of people are wearing masks and more people, by far, are adhering to mask wearing than during either of the other 2 waves.
In public, not in private where I believe you pointed out most spread is occurring. So actually YOU were the one who has shown mask wearing, distancing and limiting exposure time works....you know, because like you said the spread isn't occurring in public places where people are actually wearing masks and distancing.
But, you know, people go to private parties and don't really pay attention to the guidelines, and one person infects 4-5 and then they go and infect another 4-5....and that's how you end-up with 1 community/public case leading to 15 in-home/private cases.
posted by jmogCurrent evidence says other wise. 95% mask compliance and it is spreading as bad or worse than the first wave back in April when no one wore masks.
Lol dude I can post at least 100 pictures right now from my Facebook feed alone of people in weddings alone dancing hugging taking pictures with no masks on. It’s not people wearing masks that are spreading it. Just stop.
posted by kizer permanenteLol dude I can post at least 100 pictures right now from my Facebook feed alone of people in weddings alone dancing hugging taking pictures with no masks on. It’s not people wearing masks that are spreading it. Just stop.
For the 3rd time, compare mask wearing now to last March/April. Mask wearing is WAY up and yet the spread is worse.
posted by jmogFor the 3rd time, compare mask wearing now to last March/April. Mask wearing is WAY up and yet the spread is worse.
Things are also vastly different now than 8 months ago. Schools/colleges are back in session, at least more than they were. Sports are going on. People are back working in offices, going out to eat or drink. Families are getting together. None of that was happening in April. I feel like there was a general group effort back then to hunker down and stay safe. Now you read the comments on the local news Facebook or DeWine’s Twitter and people are fed up and don’t want to listen.
And I’m not saying masks are the solution to it all. I, like most everyone else here, figure they can help to some degree, so what’s the big deal. I don’t understand how you can simply conclude they aren’t working because cases are up now vs then while ignoring everything else at play.
Also, is there a link on the 93-95% compliance I can read for myself? Not saying I don’t believe you guys (except Spock) but I’d like to read it myself rather than take your word on it. Also, before you provide said link, are we following everyone around the entire time every day making sure they’re wearing a clean mask around their nose/mouth, not touching the mask or their face, washing their hands before and after taking the mask on and off? If they aren’t, then they aren’t doing it right in the first place.
The mask usage where the spread is happening is not 95%, not 9%. It's private get-togethers, mask usage effectively 0%.
posted by jmogCurrent evidence says other wise. 95% mask compliance and it is spreading as bad or worse than the first wave back in April when no one wore masks.
It is spreading more because there are more cases. Masks reduce the chance of individual spread dramatically, but there are many more interactions with infected people. For example, 1% of 10000 is more than 5% of 1000.
posted by jmogFor the 3rd time, compare mask wearing now to last March/April. Mask wearing is WAY up and yet the spread is worse.
People are also indoors with each other a lot more. People are back in schools. People are playing sports. People are back to work in person. People are eating and drinking in public..... the list goes on and on. There’s way more chances of exposure now then in March. The two are not comparable in any sense. It’s a terrible take man.
posted by jmog
If you believe it’s exponential then you truly have no idea what you are talking about.
Even the total cases over time is not exponential it is logarithmic which can be mistaken for exponential in the beginning of an infection, but it always levels off which makes it logarithmic.
So again, who isn’t educated?
I have provided you with a graph of Covid, as well as definitions of exponential growth and logarithmic growth. Stevie Wonder could see that this wave is growing exponentially.