More vaccine news.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fda-confirms-pfizer-vaccine-safe-and-effective

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-oxfordastrazeneca-vaccine-is-safe-and-effective-independent-analysis-finds-12155304

I was exposed. I was only around him a short time on Friday and then was around people who worked with him today before we found out he was positive. Will be staying away from everyone for the next week probably

Wife and I were at church Sunday, pastor sending message today he was positive

posted by gut

How are you going to prove you were vaccinated?  I've seen "vaccination passports" thrown around fairly often, but I haven't seen any plan on how that would work.

The guys in college who were good at making fake ID's/licenses could be looking at a bonanza.

The present species of humankind has the worst metabolic health in history since Lucy the hominid first ate a piece of protein and evolved from the chimps, so keep eating your shit diet of fast food and consuming your diet sodas, and wonder why this virus will do harm worse than the previous viruses 

This society is sad, enforcing tyranny on those who actually care for themselves

posted by Verbal Kint

The present species of humankind has the worst metabolic health in history since Lucy the hominid first ate a piece of protein and evolved from the chimps, so keep eating your shit diet of fast food and consuming your diet sodas, and wonder why this virus will do harm worse than the previous viruses 

This society is sad, enforcing tyranny on those who actually care for themselves

Does someone need a hug?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Does someone need a hug?

Thank you for the offer, but I would not want to get you in trouble with a prohibited action

posted by gut

How are you going to prove you were vaccinated?  I've seen "vaccination passports" thrown around fairly often, but I haven't seen any plan 

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."

posted by Devils Advocate

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."

Fuck yeah Iron Maiden!!!

posted by Devils Advocate

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: · And that no man might buy or sell,  ...

@Auto, this brought the lulz.

Remember when people said New York was dead? 😂😂😂

This place is soaring to new heights. pic.twitter.com/LavII5Eyoc

— KFC (@KFCBarstool) December 9, 2020

Like_that, what’s the status on a vaccine in Italy? Are people conflicted on getting it there like here? 

posted by friendfromlowry

Like_that, what’s the status on a vaccine in Italy? Are people conflicted on getting it there like here? 

More/less the same as the US.  The bigger issue is getting approved and distributed.  The EU is full of bueacratic bullshit, and then Italy is another layer of the bullshit.  Italy hasn't even been able to get enough flu vaccines distributed.

For those making fun of “anti-maskers” as being “dumb and anti-science” I found this study done by the CDC and published back in May rather interesting.

The key part for those that don’t want to read a scientific study is quoted here 

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25).

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR2ud5d6c3x1ia4GofteQ8CKT2Qw1BPHwAo35ckPcWYx9M2kkkqHVKBxAVc

Subsequent studies show the opposite, which of course is not unusual. How does one decide which "side" to believe when the supposed experts disagree?

posted by jmog

For those making fun of “anti-maskers” as being “dumb and anti-science” I found this study done by the CDC and published back in May rather interesting.

The key part for those that don’t want to read a scientific study is quoted here 

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25).

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR2ud5d6c3x1ia4GofteQ8CKT2Qw1BPHwAo35ckPcWYx9M2kkkqHVKBxAVc

You posted a study about the flu. Most people are arguing masks for Covid.

posted by Al Bundy

You posted a study about the flu. Most people are arguing masks for Covid.

Yeah, one is a virus and the other is something else

posted by queencitybuckeye

Subsequent studies show the opposite, which of course is not unusual. How does one decide which "side" to believe when the supposed experts disagree?

So a study that pooled all studies from 1946 to 2018 is wrong but a study from 2020 is right? That’s rather anti-science.

posted by Al Bundy

You posted a study about the flu. Most people are arguing masks for Covid.

You do realize both are viruses, both are similar viruses, and both are transmitted the same way right?

It’s not like I posted a study on the transmission of the flu virus and said masks might not work for bacterial transmission/infection.

Flu and COVID are, for the most part, transmitted the same way. So the study was relevant.

posted by Al Bundy

You posted a study about the flu. Most people are arguing masks for Covid.

On top of what I said above, flu and COVID are the same type of virus (that sphere with the suction cup things around it) and they are both around 100nm in size (submicroscopic, can’t see it with regular microscope like a single cell).

So yes, the study is relevant to COVID.

posted by jmog

So a study that pooled all studies from 1946 to 2018 is wrong but a study from 2020 is right? That’s rather anti-science.

Actually it isn't. New science in general should be more accurate than older science.

posted by jmog

On top of what I said above, flu and COVID are the same type of virus (that sphere with the suction cup things around it) and they are both around 100nm in size (submicroscopic, can’t see it with regular microscope like a single cell).

So yes, the study is relevant to COVID.

If they are the same type of virus, then how did COVID virtually eliminate the flu?

posted by Verbal Kint

If they are the same type of virus, then how did COVID virtually eliminate the flu?

Flu season isnt even here yet.

Do you even know why we have a flu season?  The temps and air quality arent there yet for flu.  Too warm and wet in most of the country.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Actually it isn't. New science in general should be more accurate than older science.

Should be, but not always true. 

posted by queencitybuckeye

Actually it isn't. New science in general should be more accurate than older science.

Plus, it was a statistical study not some new theoretical physics. Statistics hasn’t really changed in 2 years, I promise.