posted by gut

There's a little over 40M people aged 65 and older - in theory, they all could have their 2nd dose by the time Biden is inaugurated.

Except I have no idea how many doses are going to low-risk healthcare workers and first responders.  I think we might be prioritizing tens of millions of people who shouldn't be.  There's a lot of people in healthcare who probably don't have any more risk of exposure than other essential workers in food, for example.

And then on top of that, you're delaying the rollout because you're setting aside second doses that could be giving millions of people their first doses today.

Very true.  Here's a story about disgraced former governor of Alabama Robert Bentley receiving his shot today.  Keep in mind he resigned from the governorship 3 years ago for campaign finance fraud, because he used state funds to renovate a beach house into his own personal vacation home and banging his press secretary.  The right-wing swamp in Alabama is deep.

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2020/12/former-gov-robert-bentley-receives-covid-19-vaccine.html

posted by gut

There's a little over 40M people aged 65 and older - in theory, they all could have their 2nd dose by the time Biden is inaugurated.

Except I have no idea how many doses are going to low-risk healthcare workers and first responders.  I think we might be prioritizing tens of millions of people who shouldn't be.  There's a lot of people in healthcare who probably don't have any more risk of exposure than other essential workers in food, for example.

And then on top of that, you're delaying the rollout because you're setting aside second doses that could be giving millions of people their first doses today.

My work sent out an e-mail survey, and we have three choices: Get it now (next week), wait a while to get it (unsure what that timeframe is), or refuse it. They say there's no intention to make it mandatory. Then you answer a few questions about your on the job covid exposure, medical history, etc. This is all suppose to determine your priority of getting it. So I think there is some effort to avoid giving it to any and all healthcare workers right off the bat. 

So now that I have antibodies, where do I make money on selling blood?

posted by Spock

So now that I have antibodies, where do I make money on selling blood?

Somewhere where people aren't against getting AIDS?

posted by Spock

So now that I have antibodies, where do I make money on selling blood?

I think you can go to a plasma center

Wowzers a whole $600! Probably the amount they came up with when they asked themselves "what is the least amount of money we can give the people to keep them from rioting?" I don't personally need the money but we have some pretty desperate families out there right now and this does very little to help. Also, they need to be going by money made this year. What someone made last year means practically nothing.

posted by Rotinaj

Also, they need to be going by money made this year. What someone made last year means practically nothing.

Indeed.  Should just cut that check to everyone.  Although reminds me of when GW did this back in the day, I think it might have been $800 in stimulus after the dot com crash.  Kind of useless at the end of the day.

We'll see.  Retail has been dying a slow death for years - the pandemic just accelerate that a few years for some places.  Like 15% of bars and restaurants fail every year in normal times, and when demand bounces back so will those jobs.  Watch - there will be a boom in new bar & restaurant openings this summer as demand skyrockets.  The real economic damage has been very transitory, and propped up with an extraordinary $3T stimulus.

Unemployment benefits are, I think, topped out at around $400-$500k per week.  A waitress or bartender would probably get half of that, running out after 26 weeks or so.  And what did all the stimulus packages give them - an extra $600 per week for 2 months and another $1200 in one-time payments?  So if you've been out of work for 9 months, as many people in the service industry have been....someone who is probably technically at the poverty level has pulled in maybe half their income in stimulus and unemployment benefits.

That said, not that different than other recessions.  This one just happened to come wrapped in a pandemic, with some extraordinary stimulus benefits as a result.

posted by sportchampps

I think you can go to a plasma center

Kind of surprised CC hasn't already been a regular seller of plasma, and sperm (your welcome for that imagery).  Although I don't think they pay extra for covid antibodies.

Selling plasma sounds completely not worth it. 

posted by Rotinaj

Wowzers a whole $600! Probably the amount they came up with when they asked themselves "what is the least amount of money we can give the people to keep them from rioting?" I don't personally need the money but we have some pretty desperate families out there right now and this does very little to help. Also, they need to be going by money made this year. What someone made last year means practically nothing.

I still have a hard time understanding how there can be so many 'desperate' people when just about every manufacturing company is trying to hire people.  At some point, if you are in one of the industries that the government has destroyed, you need to move to another sector where desperate employers can't find workers.

posted by friendfromlowry

Selling plasma sounds completely not worth it. 

I remember doing that in college to give me more beer/weed money. And then I graduated, got an actual job and never really even thought about it until it came up in this post.

posted by Heretic

I remember doing that in college to give me more beer/weed money. And then I graduated, got an actual job and never really even thought about it until it came up in this post.

Ha I did it twice bc if you came back a 2nd time in the week you got a little more. Never wanted to do it again.

posted by Rotinaj

Wowzers a whole $600! Probably the amount they came up with when they asked themselves "what is the least amount of money we can give the people to keep them from rioting?" I don't personally need the money but we have some pretty desperate families out there right now and this does very little to help. Also, they need to be going by money made this year. What someone made last year means practically nothing.

I’m pretty sure it is based on what you make this year. Because the year is not over and they don’t know what you make they will make the adjustment on your tax returns. So if you didn’t qualify based on last year but was laid off this year you will get the right amount of money if will just not be until tax season. Pp

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Daughter gave vaccinations today at nursing home near Portsmouth and said it was crazy lol....zero occurrences of issues from the shot so far.

posted by sportchampps

I’m pretty sure it is based on what you make this year.

Not sure about the one-off check, but I saw another round of PPP loans will be based on how much your revenues declined.

It was a little wonky how they did the stimulus check.  An unemployment benefit that DECREASES based on how much money you made the prior year when you were, you know, working?

Was wondering about evictions, and just saw this:

The Federal Housing Administration (FHA) said today (Dec. 21) that it has extended through Feb. 28 its moratorium on evictions and foreclosures for holders of single-family mortgages insured by the division of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The moratoriums had been set to expire on Dec. 31.

That's going to be a hell of a thing to unwind.  What will happen to people months behind on their rent?  What if they finally started working again? What if they are a bar/restaurant/hotel worker and still unemployed? What are the landlords going to do, evict everyone and get NOTHING until the economy recovers because there will be way more units than people working & able to pay?

THis whole stimulus package is complete BS.  $600 crumbs for us after the Dems blocked larger packages for months.

There are billions going to BS like agriculture in the Sudan.  

posted by Spock

THis whole stimulus package is complete BS.  $600 crumbs for us after the Dems blocked larger packages for months.

Have you not been earning your regular income this whole time?

posted by Spock

THis whole stimulus package is complete BS.  $600 crumbs for us after the Dems blocked larger packages for months.

There are billions going to BS like agriculture in the Sudan.  

Agriculture in the Sudan does as much for me personally as anything you do.

5600 pages?!?  I can't imagine what kind of pork and other BS is in that monstrosity.

The swamp is alive and well.

posted by gut

5600 pages?!?  I can't imagine what kind of pork and other BS is in that monstrosity.

The swamp is alive and well.

The Twitter is very alive about all the millions going to stuff like Israel, military shit and former presidents, while regular people get $600. And alive, but less so, over the whole "give 'em 5600 pages and a few hours to peruse them before voting" thing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/coronavirus-stimulus-deal-funding-gavi-bill-gates-132249063.html

This is the crap I can’t stand give everyone $600 and other countries funding

posted by QuakerOats

I still have a hard time understanding how there can be so many 'desperate' people when just about every manufacturing company is trying to hire people.  At some point, if you are in one of the industries that the government has destroyed, you need to move to another sector where desperate employers can't find workers.

Have been thinking about this.  ER was just under 4 before the shutdown, shot up to 15 in April, has slowly edged down under 7.  The lag on this must be tremendous, I am seeing a lot of "help wanted" signs on various industries.  The transition to a different employment should be showing on the economic indicators in the next few months.  Still it is sad to see so many family businesses go away due to the shutdown that was only supposed to last 2 weeks  

I received my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday. So far, the only adverse effect I’ve experienced is an arm that’s similar in soreness to a tetanus booster. 

posted by gut

Was wondering about evictions, and just saw this:

The Federal Housing Administration (FHA) said today (Dec. 21) that it has extended through Feb. 28 its moratorium on evictions and foreclosures for holders of single-family mortgages insured by the division of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The moratoriums had been set to expire on Dec. 31.

That's going to be a hell of a thing to unwind.  What will happen to people months behind on their rent?  What if they finally started working again? What if they are a bar/restaurant/hotel worker and still unemployed? What are the landlords going to do, evict everyone and get NOTHING until the economy recovers because there will be way more units than people working & able to pay?

I imagine the large mortgage companies will “refinance” and basically add the months to the end of the loan.

It’s trickier if you rent from a landlord. He/she still needs that money and you owe it. If I were the landlord I would offer my tenant to take those 4 months and spread it over a year  basically if rent is $600, then take the $2400 you owe me and for a year your rent is $800, then it goes back down to $600.