posted by justincredible

The 3 that actually proposed this are clearly chumps.

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

But the article says this is a petition. If you have someones name and email you can sign up as them   There’s no way to confirm the people who signed up are them. 

posted by kizer permanente

But the article says this is a petition. If you have someones name and email you can sign up as them   There’s no way to confirm the people who signed up are them. 

What does that have to do with the 3 people I specifically listed? The 3 that have actually proposed this plan.

posted by justincredible

What does that have to do with the 3 people I specifically listed? The 3 that have actually proposed this plan.

Nothing specifically. I’m more saying the total to make it seem it has more credence. I guess I’d ask you why do you put more faith in these 3 than all the others who diametrically oppose this?   

I believe we’re going to be feeling the unintended consequences of our response to COVID for a long time. Given my well known views on govt I’m surprised you wonder why I prefer this plan. 

posted by justincredible

I believe we’re going to be feeling the unintended consequences of our response to COVID for a long time. Given my well known views on govt I’m surprised you wonder why I prefer this plan. 

I guess I just feel like there isn’t a good answer for it. Do you want to kill a bunch of people or do you want to slow the economy?  I don’t believe there’s a way around slowing the economy. You can’t make people who aren’t comfortable go out to eat. You can’t make make people who lost their jobs spend money they don’t have. Ohio opened up to people who feel like going and places are still going bankrupt. 

posted by kizer permanente

I guess I just feel like there isn’t a good answer for it. Do you want to kill a bunch of people or do you want to slow the economy?  I don’t believe there’s a way around slowing the economy. You can’t make people who aren’t comfortable go out to eat. You can’t make make people who lost their jobs spend money they don’t have. Ohio opened up to people who feel like going and places are still going bankrupt. 

I don’t think opening the economy or avoiding shutdowns equals killing a bunch of people. You’re right, there isn’t a clear answer. But it’d help if people had more accountability or responsibility. If you’re high risk or consistently around people that are, then don’t go to weddings or parties or out to eat. 

There was an article on Dayton Daily News over the weekend that with outdoor dining winding down, half of restaurants are facing closing down over the winter. The 10pm alcohol rule needs to go at the very least. 

Has there been any significant progress made? I feel like I haven't heard anything about vaccines in months. Is there any type of testing readily available that doesn't require driving up somewhere and having a swab up your nose only to get the results days later? 

posted by justincredible

https://gbdeclaration.org/

It is if society does not care, or have the foresight, to see that the mental and physical harm is going to exceed the health harm in the not too distant long run

posted by Verbal Kint

It is if society does not care, or have the foresight, to see that the mental and physical harm is going to exceed the health harm in the not too distant long run

I’m seeing the mental harm first hand and it’s kinda scary. That also probably plays a part in my views of the Covid response.

posted by justincredible

I’m seeing the mental harm first hand and it’s kinda scary. That also probably plays a part in my views of the Covid response.

Care to share? I’m not calling you a liar btw... just wondering. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Has there been any significant progress made? I feel like I haven't heard anything about vaccines in months. Is there any type of testing readily available that doesn't require driving up somewhere and having a swab up your nose only to get the results days later? 

All I saw recently was Johnson and Johnson halted theirs temporarily today due to an unexplained illness  

posted by kizer permanente

Well people like you claimed it went away now it’s the highest totals since inception. 

Are we still pretending that positives now are the same as the positives when this all started? I knew being fixated on positives back in March would create fear porn for months/years. Most of these cases are asymptomatic  or mild. Imagine how many people have/had and don’t/didn’t even know.

If anything, we all should be happy all of these asymptomatic/mild cases are being caught and those people are being isolated. 

posted by geeblock

So I went off the big boy jump at ricks https://www.facebook.com/506073963/posts/10158435611693964/?extid=0&d=n

I'd have a blast with that! Do they let people dive, also, or just jump?

posted by like_that

Are we still pretending that positives now are the same as the positives when this all started? I knew being fixated on positives back in March would create fear porn for months/years. Most of these cases are asymptomatic  or mild. Imagine how many people have/had and don’t/didn’t even know.

If anything, we all should be happy all of these asymptomatic/mild cases are being caught and those people are being isolated. 

Ohio doesn’t test asymptomatic people though ? These are people who are sick.

And if you look at hospitalizations chart it’s followed a half sine and is trending back up again. 

And for some context, I went to my doctors Friday bc I’ve had nasal congestion for about a week that makes it impossible to breath through your nose and sleep, and i have a low grade fever. My doctor said since I didn’t have any trouble breathing I didn’t need a test. So they’re only testing people with certain symptoms too and not mild ones. 

posted by kizer permanente

Ohio doesn’t test asymptomatic people though ? These are people who are sick.

If you want a test in Ohio, you can get a test. For free. All over the place.

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/resources/general-resources/get-tested-for-covid-19

posted by justincredible

If you want a test in Ohio, you can get a test. For free. All over the place.

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/resources/general-resources/get-tested-for-covid-19

Interesting... Friday my doctor explicitly said he’d need to write an order to the hospital by us that does the testing but he wasn’t going to since he doesn’t think I have it. 

posted by justincredible

If you want a test in Ohio, you can get a test. For free. All over the place.

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/resources/general-resources/get-tested-for-covid-19

Are those like 1 day testing locations that move around the state? 

posted by CenterBHSFan

I'd have a blast with that! Do they let people dive, also, or just jump?

The locals were doing tricks.. they didn’t say too much before we jumped so I guess it was so whatever u want. 

As far as testing goes what a shit show for 20 people. Several people got false positive tests including my fiancé. She got tested 4 times and had 1 positive result in the middle. Others did too

Kizer, I think the low grade fever could have earned you a test but who knows. You probably don’t have it, but if you’re willing to go get the test then what else is stopping him from ordering it. Regardless, your symptoms right now don’t warrant anything other going home and chilling alone anyways. 

The big thing anymore is exposure. If you’re doing the same thing now you’ve been doing for the last seven months and being safe, Covid can probably be ruled out. If you went to a wedding or something or you were around your brother who tested positive, then that’s a different story. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Kizer, I think the low grade fever could have earned you a test but who knows. You probably don’t have it, but if you’re willing to go get the test then what else is stopping him from ordering it. Regardless, your symptoms right now don’t warrant anything other going home and chilling alone anyways. 

The big thing anymore is exposure. If you’re doing the same thing now you’ve been doing for the last seven months and being safe, Covid can probably be ruled out. If you went to a wedding or something or you were around your brother who tested positive, then that’s a different story. 

Yeah he says it’s just allergies. I’ve never had allergies but that doesn’t mean it can’t be it. And I’m not a doctor but I don’t think it usually comes with a fever. To him 99.5 wasn’t a fever so he didn’t want to order a test. 

I teach labs at college and have been around college kids. We all have masks on but that was the only thing different than earlier this year. I don’t feel bad other than the annoyance of sinus pain and not being able to breath out of my nose. 

posted by kizer permanente

Yeah he says it’s just allergies. I’ve never had allergies but that doesn’t mean it can’t be it. And I’m not a doctor but I don’t think it usually comes with a fever. To him 99.5 wasn’t a fever so he didn’t want to order a test. 

I teach labs at college and have been around college kids. We all have masks on but that was the only thing different than earlier this year. I don’t feel bad other than the annoyance of sinus pain and not being able to breath out of my nose. 

You can get tested at a Rite Aid drive thru. Just go on their website to schedule. Results usually take 2-3 days. 

posted by Fab4Runner

You can get tested at a Rite Aid drive thru. Just go on their website to schedule. Results usually take 2-3 days. 

Thanks. I didn’t know that. 

CVS drive through us free and you get ur results in about 48 hours. Took about 10 min