posted by Ironman92I’ve not paid attention for over a week and it seems everything is getting canceled.....are cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the U.S. up?
No, all 3 are going down...
posted by Ironman92I’ve not paid attention for over a week and it seems everything is getting canceled.....are cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the U.S. up?
From my experience: My hospital reopened up the Covid unit a couple months ago. Initially it was 25 beds. Last week it dropped to 20, this weekend to 15, and tomorrow they're closing the Covid ICU part. My wife who works at a couple of the larger area hospitals said both had diminishing ventilator counts and were also reducing their units. I obviously can't speak on what's going on throughout the rest of the state.
I'm torn on the cancellations. Sometimes I think it's too much.
Cancelling college football is going to fuck over a lot of people, though.
These are always the numbers I have been interested in. Not downplaying the virus itself. But, nature always wins.
According to the CDC, through the end of July the average number of total deaths in the United States per day was 7,434 this year.
— Dr. David Samadi, MD (@drdavidsamadi) August 10, 2020
In 2017 there were an average of more than 7,700 deaths per day in the United States.
Where is the major increase in COVID-19 related death?
posted by OSHThese are always the numbers I have been interested in. Not downplaying the virus itself. But, nature always wins.
According to the CDC, through the end of July the average number of total deaths in the United States per day was 7,434 this year.
— Dr. David Samadi, MD (@drdavidsamadi) August 10, 2020
In 2017 there were an average of more than 7,700 deaths per day in the United States.
Where is the major increase in COVID-19 related death?
Maybe the question should be be "Where is the decrease coming from?"
posted by bigorangebuck22Maybe the question should be be "Where is the decrease coming from?"
Doesn't have to be either/or. Both can be legitimate.
The one that is always a "head slapper" to me is when people attribute to the less deaths because "people are locked in their houses and less murders are committed." Like that's truly a concern for murder.
posted by bigorangebuck22Maybe the question should be be "Where is the decrease coming from?"
same with hospital admissions and dr checkups. They were all down during covid. What happened to heart attacks and strokes? I'd imagine a lot of people ignored minor ones to avoid going to a hospital and contracting covid.
Well, cases peaked over 3 weeks ago, and it looks like the deaths are finally starting back down. Long way to go, though, to get this under control.
Russia (allegeldy) has a vaccine and Putin's daughter has (allegedly) already taken it.
posted by like_thatRussia (allegeldy) has a vaccine and Putin's daughter has (allegedly) already taken it.
Yea right.......they will give it to a million people too see if they die of it before she gets it
posted by like_thatRussia (allegeldy) has a vaccine and Putin's daughter has (allegedly) already taken it.
Yeah I saw that headline and thought no fucking way.
On another note, I saw this story and study yesterday out of Duke on the effectiveness of different type of masks. Interesting, the neck and gator style masks are largely ineffective.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah I saw that headline and thought no fucking way.
On another note, I saw this story and study yesterday out of Duke on the effectiveness of different type of masks. Interesting, the neck and gator style masks are largely ineffective.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
Yeah I bought one cuz they’re more comfortable. Then I saw a thing that you shouldn’t be able to blow out a candle with your mask on or it’s ineffective I had zero problems blowing out the candle with a gaiter on but my mask I couldn’t.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah I saw that headline and thought no fucking way.
On another note, I saw this story and study yesterday out of Duke on the effectiveness of different type of masks. Interesting, the neck and gator style masks are largely ineffective.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
According to the 2nd link they cut back 50% of the droplets. While that is the worst of all the ones they tested, that is still hardly ineffective.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah I saw that headline and thought no fucking way.
On another note, I saw this story and study yesterday out of Duke on the effectiveness of different type of masks. Interesting, the neck and gator style masks are largely ineffective.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
According to the 2nd link they cut back 50% of the droplets. While that is the worst of all the ones they tested, that is still hardly ineffective.
Did I read this right, that New York isn’t counting Covid deaths if they die in the hospital? It’s only deaths at home?
What in the fuck?
posted by SportsAndLadyDid I read this right, that New York isn’t counting Covid deaths if they die in the hospital? It’s only deaths at home?
What in the fuck?
Link?
posted by friendfromlowryLink?
Okay sorry I was reading it wrong. Still think this is wrong though
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-nursing-home-death-toll-new-york
Sounds like for it to count as a nursing home related death, they have to die inside the nursing home. If they get Covid and go to the hospital and die, it’s a hospital related death.
I’m sure they have their reasoning, but whatever. A death is death. Everyone knows nursing homes are one of the worst places to be right now whether they want to lie about it or not.
posted by friendfromlowryI’m sure they have their reasoning, but whatever. A death is death. Everyone knows nursing homes are one of the worst places to be right now whether they want to lie about it or not.
Giving Cuomo the benefit of the doubt is strange. He forced nursing homes to take Covid patients and now downplays the significance of it and hides deaths from the most vulnerable of the population.
Cuomo is a huge POS and the media covering for him is ridiculous. He literally should be brought up on charges. He put positive people in homes for 46 straight days.
I think we knew enough about this virus in that time frame to know not to do that but he kept it up. All the while he had resources that Trump sent like the big military hospital boat that was never used.
thousands died because he tried to win at politics.
posted by SpockI think we knew enough about this virus in that time frame to know not to do that but he kept it up. All the while he had resources that Trump sent like the big military hospital boat that was never used.
To be fair, they were concerned about hospital capacity. And it's not his fault many of those private nursing homes were un-equipped and incompetent in dealing with this.
Which should be an easy reality to acknowledge, and which he did at one point. The problem becomes when you had all those additional resources that went unused. Then it becomes a political issue for which he's trying to spin and cover-up.
The reality is they did a poor job of managing their hospital beds. This isn't that surprising - technology-wise, the US is well behind in other countries not in medical care, but in how it manages it's medical system and patient records. It's sort of like your old snail mail managing distribution vs. how Amazon does it.
posted by iclfan2Giving Cuomo the benefit of the doubt is strange. He forced nursing homes to take Covid patients and now downplays the significance of it and hides deaths from the most vulnerable of the population.
It's also sad & hilarious how, in the early days, he cried that if he shut down this town it would be worthless because people would just drive to the next town. Now he's enforcing travel restrictions, same thing he cried about other states doing to NY in the early days.
Like many, many others, he simply miscalculate in the early days and was slow to react because of the economic damage he knew it would cause. And like most politicians, he tried to pass the buck for that responsibility. Except, more than anyone Cuomo was out there almost every day saying Trump couldn't tell him what to do.
posted by gutTo be fair, they were concerned about hospital capacity. And it's not his fault many of those private nursing homes were un-equipped and incompetent in dealing with this.
Which should be an easy reality to acknowledge, and which he did at one point. The problem becomes when you had all those additional resources that went unused. Then it becomes a political issue for which he's trying to spin and cover-up.
The reality is they did a poor job of managing their hospital beds. This isn't that surprising - technology-wise, the US is well behind in other countries not in medical care, but in how it manages it's medical system and patient records. It's sort of like your old snail mail managing distribution vs. how Amazon does it.
Federal resources were in NYC within days and the amount of beds and resources werent an issue but Cuomo sent sick people into nursing homes that from reports I have seen were screaming about not being able to handle them for 46 days. Think about that.....take 16 days away from that and he still did it for a month.
posted by gutAll of this. Cuomo shit himself when it exploded in Italy and patients were seen on the hallway floors. The Navy ship only served ~200 patients, the pop-up hospital in the Javitz ~500.
The reality is they did a poor job of managing their hospital beds. This isn't that surprising - technology-wise, the US is well behind in other countries not in medical care, but in how it manages it's medical system and patient records. It's sort of like your old snail mail managing distribution vs. how Amazon does it.
This seems like really good news?
posted by friendfromlowryIt's a faster, reasonably more accurate test. It could be significant in reducing risk in some places, but not really significant for the gen pop.This seems like really good news?