Covid-19 discussion, continued...

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Jul 30, 2020 3:13 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

ODH doesn’t want you using a drug to possibly treat Covid that also causes fatal heart arrhythmias, liver and kidney and blood disorders. Not that hard to understand unless you’re a Trump cock sucker such as yourself. 



In other words, they want you to die from covid-19, and not die from heart failure.  And is that because they make federal $ by doing so?

Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Jul 30, 2020 3:29 PM
posted by like_that

RIP. I wish we had the 9-9-9 tax plan.


THat would have worked bigly

Fred Garvin

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 8:18 AM

An update on lingering effects from the virus. My wife tested positive in early May, and I got it a week later. Her sense of taste has been off for a couple months. I was not noticing anything.

Now, I am having hair loss. Never really thought about why. But my wife mentioned the same thing. Also, a work friend of hers who also had the virus is having hair loss as well. Did some research last night and it is being listed as a lingering effect from Covid. 


Great.......2020 can kiss my ass.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 10:04 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

He wants them to start closing at 10pm instead. 


This was approved. 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 11:42 AM

What’s the difference between a packed bar of people day drinking vs a packed bar after 10PM?

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 11:43 AM
posted by like_that

What’s the difference between a packed bar of people day drinking vs a packed bar after 10PM?

The 'Rona is afraid of the light.  

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 11:51 AM
posted by like_that

What’s the difference between a packed bar of people day drinking vs a packed bar after 10PM?

I don't think it'll make a difference, and who knows how much it'll be enforced and what people will do out of defiance. 

It's his way of compromising. Like "hey obviously bars are playing a role here and while I don't want to shut them down completely, instead I'm just going to cut back how long they're open." He's trying to appease both sides, while probably not making much of a difference. 

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 11:58 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

I don't think it'll make a difference, and who knows how much it'll be enforced and what people will do out of defiance.

Honestly, if I owned a bar I'd clear out everything I could grab and just declare bankruptcy.  No reason to struggle to stay afloat, much less lose money.   Relatively low cost of capital to start fresh when things get back to normal.

Obviously the math changes if you serve food.  Kitchen equipment is stupid expensive, and if you lose all that in a repo it's not that easy to re-create things anew.

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 12:00 PM
posted by like_that

What’s the difference between a packed bar of people day drinking vs a packed bar after 10PM?

Watch Gremlins

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 31, 2020 1:12 PM
posted by Fred Garvin

An update on lingering effects from the virus. My wife tested positive in early May, and I got it a week later. Her sense of taste has been off for a couple months. I was not noticing anything.

Now, I am having hair loss. Never really thought about why. But my wife mentioned the same thing. Also, a work friend of hers who also had the virus is having hair loss as well. Did some research last night and it is being listed as a lingering effect from Covid. 


Great.......2020 can kiss my ass.

Interesting as my wife has had what seems to be more hair loss in the shower than “normal” for a long haired woman (any man that has been married has seen those hair ‘swirls’ on the shower wall).


Will have to monitor it as she also had COVID back in late April as did my mom, sister, father, and son. I will ask them all.


Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Sat, Aug 1, 2020 3:58 PM

Great News All! The Serum Institute is shipping the unproven vaccine with unknown side effects so the .0003 (or .03%) can be protected!!!  

Ironman92

Administrator

Sat, Aug 1, 2020 4:20 PM
posted by gut

Honestly, if I owned a bar I'd clear out everything I could grab and just declare bankruptcy.  No reason to struggle to stay afloat, much less lose money.   Relatively low cost of capital to start fresh when things get back to normal.

Obviously the math changes if you serve food.  Kitchen equipment is stupid expensive, and if you lose all that in a repo it's not that easy to re-create things anew.

Must of the ones around here have a pretty decent food business 


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Sat, Aug 1, 2020 8:06 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Great News All! The Serum Institute is shipping the unproven vaccine with unknown side effects so the .0003 (or .03%) can be protected!!!  

You’re a strange dude


sportchampps

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 12:40 AM

What’s everyone’s thoughts on when we have a vaccine and when most of the US population will be able to get it

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 7:43 AM

Having a vaccine is all well and good but we have flattened the curve and need to get back at it fully.


We will see a vaccine around November 4th

geeblock

Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 10:49 AM

My fiends grandfather brought covid home from the elks and gave it to the grandmother. He recovered and she spent the last 10 days of her life in the hospital and died alone. Pretty sad stuff 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 11:46 AM
posted by geeblock

My fiends grandfather brought covid home from the elks and gave it to the grandmother. He recovered and she spent the last 10 days of her life in the hospital and died alone. Pretty sad stuff 

Too bad about your friend. That's a sad story. 


On a brighter note....

An 82 year old guy I'm friends with and his wife both contracted COVID from a grandson's visit. He had no symptoms and isvirus free now and she had mild symptoms and is back to health. He's a pretty healthy guy. But she is not - overweight and had open heart surgery a year ago. 


Anyway, glad they made it through. 

Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 12:49 PM
posted by Spock

Having a vaccine is all well and good but we have flattened the curve and need to get back at it fully.


We will see a vaccine around November 4th

Agree on that date for an an announcement, then on January 21st, the terms are set for the unproven mandatory vaccine 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 3:23 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Agree on that date for an an announcement, then on January 21st, the terms are set for the unproven mandatory vaccine 


No possible way they could legally get away with this. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 3:37 PM
posted by like_that
No possible way they could legally get away with this. 

I'm not saying they would mandate for the new COVID vaccine, but throughout American history, vaccine use was deemed mandatory: Think polio, small pox, and early measles and mumps. 


I could also see businesses make a mandate that until employees receive the vaccine they cannot come into an office or large group setting. 

I'll probably get the vaccine as it will probably be required for my work. Same goes for my wife who works in healthcare logistics. 

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 3:53 PM

Mandatory vaccine for something that is only dangerous for .5% of the population?

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 3:59 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I could also see businesses make a mandate that until employees receive the vaccine they cannot come into an office or large group setting.

It will be interesting, and I'm not an expert on the vaccine history.  Roe v. Wade could be a problematic precedent, but they might have an out since there's a public health risk not limited strictly to the individual.

Otherwise, like you said, business, schools and probably nursing homes will require it.  Not to make this political, but Trump would probably not mandate it and half the country will flip out.  Biden probably would mandate it, and half the country will flip out.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 4:12 PM
posted by gut

It will be interesting, and I'm not an expert on the vaccine history.  Roe v. Wade could be a problematic precedent, but they might have an out since there's a public health risk not limited strictly to the individual.

Otherwise, like you said, business, schools and probably nursing homes will require it.  Not to make this political, but Trump would probably not mandate it and half the country will flip out.  Biden probably would mandate it, and half the country will flip out.

Yeah, in my study of American history vaccine mandates are not new. For polio, people would travel around the country and issue the vaccine to everyone in every town. It was the reason why we were able to eradicate polio by the 1960s. 

Good PBS Doc on it: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/polio/

In this case, the Government may issues guidance and make it mandatory for schools like it is now for most states. Colleges may also mandate it for kids to come back to dorms. Businesses may pick up the mandate as it is easier for them to control risk and allow people to come back to large settings. 


jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 4:31 PM
posted by like_that
No possible way they could legally get away with this. 

Do you know how many vaccines are REQUIRED to send a child to school by law?


All they would have to do is add a COVID vaccine to the list for children.


queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 3, 2020 4:38 PM
posted by Spock

Mandatory vaccine for something that is only dangerous for .5% of the population?

Stop lying. You're too stupid for the truth, much less lies.