posted by queencitybuckeye

Stop lying. You're too stupid for the truth, much less lies.

Link?

posted by Spock

Link?

Earlier in this thread....

One of my gf's best friends father passed on Saturday. Was in the hospital for a week. In Maracaibo, Venezuela. He was 54. Great guy, I met him last summer. Their healthcare system is a total disaster anyway, now with COVID...even worse.

Sucks...first incident that really hit us hard. Think of the couple you and your SO always hanging out with. Worst part is, she can't even go there and her mom is pretty much alone, no real family left in the city. Also, to pile even more shit on...her mom now has COVID. 

posted by Automatik

One of my gf's best friends father passed on Saturday. Was in the hospital for a week. In Maracaibo, Venezuela. He was 54. Great guy, I met him last summer. Their healthcare system is a total disaster anyway, now with COVID...even worse.

Sucks...first incident that really hit us hard. Think of the couple you and your SO always hanging out with. Worst part is, she can't even go there and her mom is pretty much alone, no real family left in the city. Also, to pile even more shit on...her mom now has COVID. 

Sorry to hear man. We were close to one of our doormen of our building who died. Shit sucks

posted by Spock

Mandatory vaccine for something that is only dangerous for .5% of the population?

You sure its 0.5% and not 0.005%?

Asking for a friend...

posted by Automatik

One of my gf's best friends father passed on Saturday. Was in the hospital for a week. In Maracaibo, Venezuela. He was 54. Great guy, I met him last summer. Their healthcare system is a total disaster anyway, now with COVID...even worse.

Sucks...first incident that really hit us hard. Think of the couple you and your SO always hanging out with. Worst part is, she can't even go there and her mom is pretty much alone, no real family left in the city. Also, to pile even more shit on...her mom now has COVID. 

That truly sucks man.

posted by jmog

Do you know how many vaccines are REQUIRED to send a child to school by law?

All they would have to do is add a COVID vaccine to the list for children.

I was more so thinking "mandate" as in they can't force anyone to take it.  I did not think about the schools/businesses/etc angle. 

If anyone is familiar with HIPAA, could businesses or public services (i.e. metro) require people to provide proof they have the vaccine? 

Some countries in the EU are seeing a second spike.  The Germans are calling it a shallow second wave.  Spain is back around 2.5K-3K cases a day, but I don't think anywhere in Europe is locking anyone down this time around. 

posted by like_that

Some countries in the EU are seeing a second spike.  The Germans are calling it a shallow second wave.  Spain is back around 2.5K-3K cases a day, but I don't think anywhere in Europe is locking anyone down this time around. 

Man, I would love if the U.S. can get down to those numbers. Instead, here we are just stupid and totally fucked this thing all up. 

Even as I was touting how well Maryland was doing, the numbers are creeping up, with over a 1k cases last week. It seems like people are getting lax, especially near beaches and people in their 20s. 

posted by like_that

I was more so thinking "mandate" as in they can't force anyone to take it.  I did not think about the schools/businesses/etc angle. 

If anyone is familiar with HIPAA, could businesses or public services (i.e. metro) require people to provide proof they have the vaccine? 

If you want to be able to stand in line to obtain your government bread, you better be able to show your documents that you had the vaccine

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Man, I would love if the U.S. can get down to those numbers. Instead, here we are just stupid and totally fucked this thing all up. 

Even as I was touting how well Maryland was doing, the numbers are creeping up, with over a 1k cases last week. It seems like people are getting lax, especially near beaches and people in their 20s. 

Contrary to belief, most European countries don't have their shit together.  Everywhere I have been and my friends/coworkers, we see people are not following mask guidelines or social distancing guidelines.   My guess is if you came to Europe, you would notice people doing the same exact shit they are doing in the US.  

The fact the US mutation is more contagious in the US is playing a large role in this imo. 

DeWine called for masks for all grades

posted by like_that

The fact the US mutation is more contagious in the US is playing a large role in this imo. 

Bingo.  Just look at MLB - one or two people infect over a dozen within days.

And while that, along with college outbreaks, make for sensational headlines, what you're not seeing reported is how many of those people are ending up in the hospital.  Because that answer is basically zero.

posted by Ironman92

DeWine called for masks for all grades

Completely pointless to ask grade school kids to wear masks.  If that really matters, you might as well just go 100% virtual because otherwise it's an exercise in futility.

posted by gut

Bingo.  Just look at MLB - one or two people infect over a dozen within days.

And while that, along with college outbreaks, make for sensational headlines, what you're not seeing reported is how many of those people are ending up in the hospital.  Because that answer is basically zero.

Agreed.  Some school in Indiana opened last week.  The USA Today had a headline "An Indiana school reopened for students.  There was a positive COVID-19 test on day one".  Well no shit, a virus spreads. As you say, headlines like this are going to be everywhere in the next few weeks.  What will be harder to find is the follow-up of these cases and how many turn serious.  MLB is a good barometer for this.  You'd think the entire St. Louis Cardinal squad was soon to die based upon the 13 positive cases that have been found.  In reality, the club reported yesterday that 5 were asymptomatic and 8 had "sniffles" and some had mild grade fever.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You'd think the entire St. Louis Cardinal squad was soon to die based upon the 13 positive cases that have been found.  In reality, the club reported yesterday that 5 were asymptomatic and 8 had "sniffles" and some had mild grade fever.  

I did see that.  Unless anyone ends up in the hospital, you won't see much more on that aspect.  But it might be a bit premature yet - I think it takes about 1-2 weeks for it to progress to needing hospitalization, if that's the case.

I just remember hearing that 30+ Clemson players tested positive.  School said no one was hospitalized, but I never heard anything more.  I'm sure if just one player was hospitalized for even a day CNN would cover it non-stop for a week.

posted by like_that

I was more so thinking "mandate" as in they can't force anyone to take it.  I did not think about the schools/businesses/etc angle. 

If anyone is familiar with HIPAA, could businesses or public services (i.e. metro) require people to provide proof they have the vaccine? 

The HIPAA Privacy Rule permits providers to share immunization records with public health officials for public health purposes as otherwise authorized by law. Under the VFC statute, at 42 U.S.C.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/alex-berenson-sun-belt-coronavirus-spike-lockdowns

'Lockdowns don't work'

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.foxnews.com/media/alex-berenson-sun-belt-coronavirus-spike-lockdowns

'Lockdowns don't work'

That guy claims they never locked down, but I'm pretty sure about the end of June when hospitalizations were surging those states closed bars, beaches and restricted restaurants.  Pretty much a return to stage 2 or whatever.

DeWine tested positive.

posted by justincredible

DeWine tested positive.

Social media should have a field day with that. 

posted by justincredible

DeWine tested positive.

Should have stayed in the basement with Biden.

posted by justincredible

DeWine tested positive.

I bet he was at a bar with a drink at 10:01

As opposed to being in the “closet” with Trump?

Another day over 1000 deaths and we are over 160k deaths.