Studies have shown that the suicide rates of transgenders doesn’t change if they are in an “accepting” home or not. It doesn’t even change after they have the surgery.
The liberal excuse for the insanely high suicide rate is completely illogical “well if they weren’t bullied”. Jews under Nazi Germany is the epitome of “oppressed” and “bullied” and their suicide rates were lower than transgender people.
There is a reason that until like 5 minutes ago it was considered by the American psychiatric association and their DSM as a mental disorder in the same “body dismorphia” categories as anorexia is. Their brain is “lying” to them about the reality of their body.
Are you just rolling the same anti homosexual playbook right back? Same arguments were made in the 80s and 90s.
ptown_trojans_1
Moderator
8,788
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
ptown_trojans_1
Moderator
Fri, Feb 18, 2022 6:59 PM
posted by QuakerOats
Gay is not "normal": 2% out of 100% is not "normal". I think you meant to say that gay is accepted today, or more readily accepted by society. And this is as it should be, we are taught by God to love others, despite our differences.
Accepted yes is my point. They are now permitted to marry and have a lot of the same rights and privileges and social acceptance as heterosexuals.
like_that
1st Team All-PWN
29,228
posts
Joined
Apr 2010
like_that
1st Team All-PWN
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 3:37 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1
Accepted yes is my point. They are now permitted to marry and have a lot of the same rights and privileges and social acceptance as heterosexuals.
What rights are trans people not afforded?
Fletch
Member
0
posts
Joined
Nov 2020
Fletch
Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 7:55 AM
posted by like_that
What rights are trans people not afforded?
They can do whatever they want, what they actually want is to force perverse ideas on everyone else and make you out as the worst person ever if you dare go against their constant virtue signali
jmog
Senior Member
7,737
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
jmog
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 9:31 AM
posted by geeblock
Ok well if it’s in tik tok lol
Teachers just like society come from all sorts of backgrounds. There are just as many conservative teachers as there are liberal ones. Not one teacher alive wants to touch this subject or encourage a student to join a group that will be ostracized and bullied their entire lives. Not one student became trans because of something they learned at school. No one became gay because they saw someone kiss on tv or had two gay parents.
False
jmog
Senior Member
7,737
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
jmog
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 9:35 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1
Are you just rolling the same anti homosexual playbook right back? Same arguments were made in the 80s and 90s.
Congratulations on typing the dumbest thing I have read today.
I stated facts.
Transgender suicide rate is insanely higher than anything homosexuals have ever seen and they were just as “bullied” back in the 80/90s as trans people have ever been.
The DSM most definitely did classify it as a disorder until just a couple years ago.
So all factual information yet you want to pull the “so you’re trans/homophobic huh?” Card
STFU, sorry facts hurt your feelings
Hope that helps
gut
Senior Member
18,369
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
gut
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 12:06 PM
Gender dysphoria is much more comparable to other self-image issues
like anorexia. I'm pretty sure ptown wouldn't say people with anorexia
don't need counseling, even though it's a similar issue of struggling
with body image.
Some probably don't need counseling, and if
simple acceptance works that is always better than drugs. But I suspect
that is not the case with most. Looking in the mirror and becoming
seriously depressed because you feel like a women but see a man is a
mental disorder, just like any other body image issue. Very different
issue from sexuality. Sad that the psychiatric association caved to the
woke crowd.
Never in my entire life have I ever felt like
anything other than an individual. 20-some years ago that was the
message from the Left - celebrate the individual and ignore society
"defined" genders. I'm not sure what changed, other than that wasn't
nearly divisive enough to carve the electorate into single-issue voters.
jmog
Senior Member
7,737
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
jmog
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 12:55 PM
posted by gut
Gender dysphoria is much more comparable to other self-image issues
like anorexia. I'm pretty sure ptown wouldn't say people with anorexia
don't need counseling, even though it's a similar issue of struggling
with body image.
Some probably don't need counseling, and if
simple acceptance works that is always better than drugs. But I suspect
that is not the case with most. Looking in the mirror and becoming
seriously depressed because you feel like a women but see a man is a
mental disorder, just like any other body image issue. Very different
issue from sexuality. Sad that the psychiatric association caved to the
woke crowd.
Never in my entire life have I ever felt like
anything other than an individual. 20-some years ago that was the
message from the Left - celebrate the individual and ignore society
"defined" genders. I'm not sure what changed, other than that wasn't
nearly divisive enough to carve the electorate into single-issue voters.
100% true, but ptown will say you are transph
geeblock
Member
1,123
posts
Joined
May 2018
geeblock
Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 1:52 PM
posted by jmog
100% true, but ptown will say you are transph
I remember when I used to feel that way and then I worked with actual people and became friends with them and realized I was wrong
sportchampps
Senior Member
7,527
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
sportchampps
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 2:21 PM
Are you saying we can’t celebrate individuality but need to define ourselves by group because that is idiotic.
gut
Senior Member
18,369
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
gut
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 2:44 PM
On a related note, when do we stop saying "gay" or "lesbian" because, you know, you're making assumptions about their gender....
Imagine the outlash if SNL did this skit today:
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Senior Member
3,345
posts
Joined
Oct 2010
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Senior Member
Sat, Feb 19, 2022 10:36 PM
posted by gut
On a related note, when do we stop saying "gay" or "lesbian" because, you know, you're making assumptions about their gender....
Imagine the outlash if SNL did this skit today:
No, Pat wouldn’t fly today.
justincredible
Honorable Admin
37,969
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
justincredible
Honorable Admin
Sun, Feb 20, 2022 5:48 PM
The situation in Canada isn’t funny, but I saw someone refer to Trudeau as North Pol Pot and that shit is hilarious.
It’s absolutely insane what’s happening up there right now. Someone actually wrote a piece for HuffPost in 2014 that said JT would turn Canada into a dictatorship if he took power and, well…
Fletch
Member
0
posts
Joined
Nov 2020
Fletch
Member
Sun, Feb 20, 2022 6:16 PM
posted by justincredible
The situation in Canada isn’t funny, but I saw someone refer to Trudeau as North Pol Pot and that shit is hilarious.
It’s absolutely insane what’s happening up there right now. Someone actually wrote a piece for HuffPost in 2014 that said JT would turn Canada into a dictatorship if he took power and, well…
Whats not funny is that the US should be slapping heavy sanctions on them for what they are doing to those people.
justincredible
Honorable Admin
37,969
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
justincredible
Honorable Admin
Sun, Feb 20, 2022 6:25 PM
These liberals in Canada are so self-righteous that they are completely blind to their rampant fascism. And the silence of other Western “leaders” is deafening.
jmog
Senior Member
7,737
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
jmog
Senior Member
Sun, Feb 20, 2022 7:47 PM
The other day when JT said, during a legislative session, that conservatives sided with “swastika” right after an actual conservative granddaughter of an actual Holocaust survivor had got done talking was frightening. Throw in that he wouldn’t apologize after being told to numerous times and he truly needs removed from office.
justincredible
Honorable Admin
37,969
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
justincredible
Honorable Admin
Sun, Feb 20, 2022 8:19 PM
posted by jmog
The other day when JT said, during a legislative session, that conservatives sided with “swastika” right after an actual conservative granddaughter of an actual Holocaust survivor had got done talking was frightening. Throw in that he wouldn’t apologize after being told to numerous times and he truly needs removed from office.
Physically, if necessary.
iclfan2
Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
iclfan2
Reppin' the 330/216/843
Wed, Feb 23, 2022 7:27 AM
Lol, didn’t take long for the spin.
The U.S. economy has been hit with increased gas prices, inflation, and supply-chain issues due to the Ukraine crisis. https://t.co/d9dwXWpcvf
Let's check in and see if the American public are buying it...
No, they are not.
BR1986FB
Senior Member
27,923
posts
Joined
Feb 2010
BR1986FB
Senior Member
Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:11 AM
posted by jmog
The other day when JT said, during a legislative session, that conservatives sided with “swastika” right after an actual conservative granddaughter of an actual Holocaust survivor had got done talking was frightening. Throw in that he wouldn’t apologize after being told to numerous times and he truly needs removed from office.
Not to change topics but just as frightening....girl I know who lives overseas, was going through the airport in Germany and the customs guy was giving her some shit. She mentioned something about the Holocaust and the guy said "the Holocaust did not exist." She was dumbfounded.
kizer permanente
Senior Member
1,309
posts
Joined
Aug 2017
kizer permanente
Senior Member
Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:31 AM
posted by BR1986FB
Not to change topics but just as frightening....girl I know who lives overseas, was going through the airport in Germany and the customs guy was giving her some shit. She mentioned something about the Holocaust and the guy said "the Holocaust did not exist." She was dumbfounded.
How does the Holocaust even come up in a conversation in Customs?
BR1986FB
Senior Member
27,923
posts
Joined
Feb 2010
BR1986FB
Senior Member
Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:34 AM
posted by kizer permanente
How does the Holocaust even come up in a conversation in Customs?
No clue
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Senior Member
3,345
posts
Joined
Oct 2010
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Senior Member
Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:48 AM
posted by BR1986FB
Not to change topics but just as frightening....girl I know who lives overseas, was going through the airport in Germany and the customs guy was giving her some shit. She mentioned something about the Holocaust and the guy said "the Holocaust did not exist." She was dumbfounded.
She "mentioned" something about the Holocaust in a customs line at the airport?
I've spent months of my life in Germany. I have found the people there to be the same as those here - wonderful people and jackasses. I would hardly take the measure of the place from a customs officer - a profession that doesn't always attract the "best of the best". But if she's willing to play that card because some idiot was "giving her some shit", my guess is she finds drama and outrage everywhere she goes.
QuakerOats
Senior Member
11,701
posts
Joined
Nov 2009
QuakerOats
Senior Member
Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:51 AM
posted by iclfan2
Lol, didn’t take long for the spin.
The U.S. economy has been hit with increased gas prices, inflation, and supply-chain issues due to the Ukraine crisis. https://t.co/d9dwXWpcvf