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ptown_trojans_1

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Fri, Feb 18, 2022 6:56 PM
posted by jmog

Studies have shown that the suicide rates of transgenders doesn’t change if they are in an “accepting” home or not. It doesn’t even change after they have the surgery.


The liberal excuse for the insanely high suicide rate is completely illogical “well if they weren’t bullied”. Jews under Nazi Germany is the epitome of “oppressed” and “bullied” and their suicide rates were lower than transgender people. 


There is a reason that until like 5 minutes ago it was considered by the American psychiatric association and their DSM as a mental disorder in the same “body dismorphia” categories as anorexia is. Their brain is “lying” to them about the reality of their body.


Are you just rolling the same anti homosexual playbook right back? Same arguments were made in the 80s and 90s. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Feb 18, 2022 6:59 PM
posted by QuakerOats



Gay is not "normal":  2% out of 100% is not "normal".  I think you meant to say that gay is accepted today, or more readily accepted by society.  And this is as it should be, we are taught by God to love others, despite our differences. 

Accepted yes is my point. They are now permitted to marry and have a lot of the same rights and privileges and social acceptance as heterosexuals. 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 3:37 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Accepted yes is my point. They are now permitted to marry and have a lot of the same rights and privileges and social acceptance as heterosexuals. 


What rights are trans people not afforded?


Fletch

Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 7:55 AM
posted by like_that

What rights are trans people not afforded?


They can do whatever they want,  what they actually want is to force perverse ideas on everyone else and make you out as the worst person ever if you dare go against their constant virtue signali


jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 9:31 AM
posted by geeblock

Ok well if it’s in tik tok lol 


Teachers just like society come from all sorts of backgrounds. There are just as many conservative teachers as there are liberal ones. Not one teacher alive wants to touch this subject or encourage a student to join a group that will be ostracized and bullied their entire lives. Not one student became trans because of something they learned at school. No one became gay because they saw someone kiss on tv or had two gay parents. 



False

jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 9:35 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Are you just rolling the same anti homosexual playbook right back? Same arguments were made in the 80s and 90s. 


Congratulations on typing the dumbest thing I have read today. 

I stated facts.


Transgender suicide rate is insanely higher than anything homosexuals have ever seen and they were just as “bullied” back in the 80/90s as trans people have ever been. 


The DSM most definitely did classify it as a disorder until just a couple years ago.


So all factual information yet you want to pull the “so you’re trans/homophobic huh?” Card


STFU, sorry facts hurt your feelings  

Hope that helps


gut

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 12:06 PM

Gender dysphoria is much more comparable to other self-image issues like anorexia.  I'm pretty sure ptown wouldn't say people with anorexia don't need counseling, even though it's a similar issue of struggling with body image.

Some probably don't need counseling, and if simple acceptance works that is always better than drugs.  But I suspect that is not the case with most.  Looking in the mirror and becoming seriously depressed because you feel like a women but see a man is a mental disorder, just like any other body image issue.  Very different issue from sexuality.  Sad that the psychiatric association caved to the woke crowd. 

Never in my entire life have I ever felt like anything other than an individual.  20-some years ago that was the message from the Left - celebrate the individual and ignore society "defined" genders.  I'm not sure what changed, other than that wasn't nearly divisive enough to carve the electorate into single-issue voters.

jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 12:55 PM
posted by gut

Gender dysphoria is much more comparable to other self-image issues like anorexia.  I'm pretty sure ptown wouldn't say people with anorexia don't need counseling, even though it's a similar issue of struggling with body image.

Some probably don't need counseling, and if simple acceptance works that is always better than drugs.  But I suspect that is not the case with most.  Looking in the mirror and becoming seriously depressed because you feel like a women but see a man is a mental disorder, just like any other body image issue.  Very different issue from sexuality.  Sad that the psychiatric association caved to the woke crowd. 

Never in my entire life have I ever felt like anything other than an individual.  20-some years ago that was the message from the Left - celebrate the individual and ignore society "defined" genders.  I'm not sure what changed, other than that wasn't nearly divisive enough to carve the electorate into single-issue voters.

100% true, but ptown will say you are transph


geeblock

Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 1:52 PM
posted by jmog

100% true, but ptown will say you are transph


I remember when I used to feel that way and then I worked with actual people and became friends with them and realized I was wrong 


sportchampps

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 2:21 PM

Are you saying we can’t celebrate individuality but need to define ourselves by group because that is idiotic.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 2:44 PM

On a related note, when do we stop saying "gay" or "lesbian" because, you know, you're making assumptions about their gender....


Imagine the outlash if SNL did this skit today:

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Feb 19, 2022 10:36 PM
posted by gut

On a related note, when do we stop saying "gay" or "lesbian" because, you know, you're making assumptions about their gender....


Imagine the outlash if SNL did this skit today:

No, Pat wouldn’t fly today.


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Sun, Feb 20, 2022 5:48 PM

The situation in Canada isn’t funny, but I saw someone refer to Trudeau as North Pol Pot and that shit is hilarious. 

It’s absolutely insane what’s happening up there right now. Someone actually wrote a piece for HuffPost in 2014 that said JT would turn Canada into a dictatorship if he took power and, well…

Fletch

Member

Sun, Feb 20, 2022 6:16 PM
posted by justincredible

The situation in Canada isn’t funny, but I saw someone refer to Trudeau as North Pol Pot and that shit is hilarious. 

It’s absolutely insane what’s happening up there right now. Someone actually wrote a piece for HuffPost in 2014 that said JT would turn Canada into a dictatorship if he took power and, well…

Whats not funny is that the US should be slapping heavy sanctions on them for what they are doing to those people.  

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Sun, Feb 20, 2022 6:25 PM

These liberals in Canada are so self-righteous that they are completely blind to their rampant fascism. And the silence of other Western “leaders” is deafening. 

jmog

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 20, 2022 7:47 PM

The other day when JT said, during a legislative session, that conservatives sided with “swastika” right after an actual conservative granddaughter of an actual Holocaust survivor had got done talking was frightening. Throw in that he wouldn’t apologize after being told to numerous times and he truly needs removed from office.  

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Sun, Feb 20, 2022 8:19 PM
posted by jmog

The other day when JT said, during a legislative session, that conservatives sided with “swastika” right after an actual conservative granddaughter of an actual Holocaust survivor had got done talking was frightening. Throw in that he wouldn’t apologize after being told to numerous times and he truly needs removed from office.  

Physically, if necessary.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 7:27 AM

Lol, didn’t take long for the spin.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 8:59 AM
posted by iclfan2

Lol, didn’t take long for the spin.

Let's check in and see if the American public are buying it...


No, they are not.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:11 AM
posted by jmog

The other day when JT said, during a legislative session, that conservatives sided with “swastika” right after an actual conservative granddaughter of an actual Holocaust survivor had got done talking was frightening. Throw in that he wouldn’t apologize after being told to numerous times and he truly needs removed from office.  

Not to change topics but just as frightening....girl I know who lives overseas, was going through the airport in Germany and the customs guy was giving her some shit. She mentioned something about the Holocaust and the guy said "the Holocaust did not exist." She was dumbfounded.

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:31 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Not to change topics but just as frightening....girl I know who lives overseas, was going through the airport in Germany and the customs guy was giving her some shit. She mentioned something about the Holocaust and the guy said "the Holocaust did not exist." She was dumbfounded.

How does the Holocaust even come up in a conversation in Customs?

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:34 AM
posted by kizer permanente

How does the Holocaust even come up in a conversation in Customs?

No clue

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:48 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Not to change topics but just as frightening....girl I know who lives overseas, was going through the airport in Germany and the customs guy was giving her some shit. She mentioned something about the Holocaust and the guy said "the Holocaust did not exist." She was dumbfounded.

She "mentioned" something about the Holocaust in a customs line at the airport?  


I've spent months of my life in Germany.  I have found the people there to be the same as those here - wonderful people and jackasses.  I would hardly take the measure of the place from a customs officer - a profession that doesn't always attract the "best of the best".  But if she's willing to play that card because some idiot was "giving her some shit", my guess is she finds drama and outrage everywhere she goes.  

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 9:51 AM
posted by iclfan2

Lol, didn’t take long for the spin.


1 in 4 would probably buy it.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 23, 2022 10:12 AM

The Russians hate us for our freedom.