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QuakerOats

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Mon, Dec 2, 2019 3:17 PM

 

US SOLIDIFIES ENERGY PRODUCER STATUS

The U.S. solidified its status as an energy producer by posting the first full month as a net exporter of crude and petroleum products since government records began in 1949. http://media.bishopi.com/ec.aspx?l=25414350&e=216417

 

 

 

 

Thanks barack

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 2, 2019 4:27 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

US SOLIDIFIES ENERGY PRODUCER STATUS

The U.S. solidified its status as an energy producer by posting the first full month as a net exporter of crude and petroleum products since government records began in 1949. http://media.bishopi.com/ec.aspx?l=25414350&e=216417

 

 

 

 

Thanks barack

 

You keep doing this to make a point that Obama is not the reason for whatever economic benefit your highlighting.  No one one here has ever suggested he was.  The point made to you is that much of the stuff you highlight had nothing to do with Trump.  Either because it was in the works long before he came along or because presidents possibly don't have as much effect on economic daily activities than you propose.  Instead of challenging these points, you just keep making this same "thanks barack" point sarcastically.  No one said anything about Obama being responsible for any of the stories you highlight.

 

 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Dec 2, 2019 5:34 PM
posted by jmog

I would also counter that roads existed before the federal government started building them. Schools existed before the federal government started regulating them. Utilities (water, electricity, etc) were run as private industries before the government took them over.

I mean, roads were indeed federally funded pretty early on.

Having said that, the first ones were successfully funded LONG before income tax ... a good 100+ years: https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/back0103.cfm

 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Dec 3, 2019 12:54 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You keep doing this to make a point that Obama is not the reason for whatever economic benefit your highlighting.  No one one here has ever suggested he was.  The point made to you is that much of the stuff you highlight had nothing to do with Trump.  Either because it was in the works long before he came along or because presidents possibly don't have as much effect on economic daily activities than you propose.  Instead of challenging these points, you just keep making this same "thanks barack" point sarcastically.  No one said anything about Obama being responsible for any of the stories you highlight.

 

 

It's probably best not to disturb THE DAILY BLOWJOB, hosted by QO.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 3, 2019 2:20 PM
posted by Heretic

It's probably best not to disturb THE DAILY BLOWJOB, hosted by QO.

It's funny that he thinks we can't read Drudge on our own.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:37 AM
posted by gut

It's funny that he thinks we can't read Drudge on our own.

WELL IF YOU COULD MAYBE YOUD SEE THE LIGHT AND THAT WE THE PEOPLE GOT TIRED OF OBUMMER AND THE LIBTARDS AND NEEDED A STABLE GENIUS PLAYING 4D CHESS TO MAGAAAAAAAAAAAA

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 4, 2019 10:02 AM

 

 

It seems Drudge drank the koolaid a few months ago; maybe deep state presented him some pics or something.  Plus it has become obvious that barack paved the way for the strong economy with policies that inspired business confidence and a gusher of capex.  Give credit where credit is due.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 4, 2019 12:00 PM

Hey QO, Cleveland-Cliffs just bought AK Steel for half of what it was worth when Trump took office. So how do you reconcile that terrible performance with his tariffs and promised revival of the domestic steel industry?  Could it be that his actions have little effect on industry performance? 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:58 PM

 

What was the S&P 500 market capitalization on 11/7/16; what is it today?

 

 

 

Be best.

jmog

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 4, 2019 2:15 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Hey QO, Cleveland-Cliffs just bought AK Steel for half of what it was worth when Trump took office. So how do you reconcile that terrible performance with his tariffs and promised revival of the domestic steel industry?  Could it be that his actions have little effect on industry performance? 

From 2014 to 2016 the US production of steel dropped dramatically from 98 million metric tons down to 86 million metric tons per year.

Since the election in 2016, the US production of steel has gone up to 91 million metric tons in 2017 and 95 million metric tons in 2018.

I am not saying that the tarrifs are "working", but they are demonstrably no hurting the situation.

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 5, 2019 12:34 PM
posted by jmog

From 2014 to 2016 the US production of steel dropped dramatically from 98 million metric tons down to 86 million metric tons per year.

Since the election in 2016, the US production of steel has gone up to 91 million metric tons in 2017 and 95 million metric tons in 2018.

I am not saying that the tarrifs are "working", but they are demonstrably no hurting the situation.

 

I was pointing out a specific transaction to QO that seems to fly in the face of his dependable Trump flag waving.  The low price and poor performance of AK Steel - in spite of tariffs - allowed Cleveland-Cliffs to get a nice price for an acquisition.  As the Cliffs CEO said, "the tariffs have nothing to do with this".  I made the point to Quaker to just see if he might admit that the president - regardless of who he/she is - does not have quite the impact on day to day business dealings as Quaker espouses.  

 

In the case of this particular deal, Cliffs' CEO Lourenco Goncalves (who has a personality very similar to Trump's) is making a move to secure the supply chain of iron ore and to also diversify his customer base.  If you don't follow him, he is a really interesting guy who knows the steel industry and is good for an awesome quote every now and then.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 5, 2019 2:15 PM

 

 

On my way to work this morning I saw a nice pole building going up.

 

 

 

Thanks barack.

gut

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 5, 2019 2:39 PM
posted by QuakerOats

On my way to work this morning I saw a nice pole building going up.

Trump putting strippers back to work again?

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 5, 2019 3:13 PM

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em....

 

The guy in front of me in line at the DMV this morning audibly farted, but it didn't stink.  Whatever Trump did to make that happen, I'm grateful.  

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 5, 2019 3:28 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em....

 

The guy in front of me in line at the DMV this morning audibly farted, but it didn't stink.  Whatever Trump did to make that happen, I'm grateful.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XK797-vj4k

 

 

 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, Dec 5, 2019 6:35 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em....

 

The guy in front of me in line at the DMV this morning audibly farted, but it didn't stink.  Whatever Trump did to make that happen, I'm grateful.  

Yeah, I'll one-up that! I took a vacation day today, so I'm thanking Trump for not forcing companies to outlaw employees using their time off! IT'S ALL YOU, BUDDY!!!!!!

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 6, 2019 3:39 PM

 

 

Blowout jobs report today.

 

Wow.

 

 

 

maga

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 6, 2019 3:49 PM

 

 

 

BTW – 8 more judges confirmed this week > total Trump appointed federal judges now at 170. 

 

 

Best

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 6, 2019 5:19 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

BTW – 8 more judges confirmed this week > total Trump appointed federal judges now at 170. 

 

 

Best

Not an expert on judges....is that alot?

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Dec 7, 2019 2:08 PM
posted by Spock

Not an expert on judges....is that alot?

That is a rate of 60 judges per year.

In comparison, Obama had an average of 42 judges confirmed per year.  Bush was at 43, and Clinton at 48.   But maybe things slow down in a second term.  GHB confirmed 197 judges in 4 years.  Carter confirmed 262 in 4 years.

Also, there a hundreds of federally appointed judges.  But if a 2-term POTUS ends-up appointing 1/2 or even 1/4 of them, that's a pretty significant impact on the courts.  Although for that argument we'd probably have to focus on appelate courts, because I don't expect a lot of these appointments are as political as what you see on the SCOTUS or appelate courts.

 

So I guess the short answer is it's fairly typical.  But the number is not something the POTUS really controls - they aren't removing judges just filling vacancies.

Spock

Senior Member

Sat, Dec 7, 2019 5:01 PM
posted by gut

That is a rate of 60 judges per year.

In comparison, Obama had an average of 42 judges confirmed per year.  Bush was at 43, and Clinton at 48.   But maybe things slow down in a second term.  GHB confirmed 197 judges in 4 years.  Carter confirmed 262 in 4 years.

Also, there a hundreds of federally appointed judges.  But if a 2-term POTUS ends-up appointing 1/2 or even 1/4 of them, that's a pretty significant impact on the courts.  Although for that argument we'd probably have to focus on appelate courts, because I don't expect a lot of these appointments are as political as what you see on the SCOTUS or appelate courts.

 

So I guess the short answer is it's fairly typical.  But the number is not something the POTUS really controls - they aren't removing judges just filling vacancies.

but it only takes one liberal judge to make stuff come to a grinding hault

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 17, 2019 10:21 AM

GM plans $1.5B investment in pickup manufacturing

 

General Motors is spending a total of $1.5 billion to manufacture Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon pickup trucks at its Wentzville, Mo., factory. The plant will get $1 billion, with the remainder going to suppliers for new machinery and tooling.

 

Better than Cash-for-Clunkers

 

 

Also -

 

Housing permits hit 12 ½ year high.

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 18, 2019 4:52 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

You've never answered my question...

 

These are great stories you post.  I personally don't think that the president (whoever is there) has nearly as much immediate influence on economic activity as you, but that's okay.  You obviously think Trump is responsible for good things happening.  What about bad things in the economy.  Is he responsible for those things too?  If not, why not?

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 18, 2019 6:28 PM

LMAO....."B" and "C" list politicians getting their 60 second to grandstand today.  And you thought the clowns on the committee were bad!  How do you get elected when you can't even nail a 60-second speech?

 

One of the Repubs LITERALLY sounded like Elmer Fudd, stutter and all.