posted by like_that

I don't think Gary is running, and if he was I highly doubt his chances of winning have increased.  Even though I would have easily taken him over Hillary and Donald, I don't believe he was close to being the best candidate for that party.

posted by Heretic

Yeah, I think Gary's ship sailed with the last election. When it's looking like you're actually gaining momentum due to how shitty the other candidates were and then you completely blow it with interviews where you come off as clueless and the L movement winds up losing its momentum and getting their usual pittance of the vote (ie: completely insignificant unless the R guy loses and the diehard R politards start crying because their guy "only" lost due to the L siphoning votes away), you probably should step aside and let someone capable of carrying your party forward take the lead.

I voted for Gary because he was far superior to either candidate, but yeah, his campaign was just terrible. I'm not sure Mcafee or Peterson would've done any better, but I probably would've preferred Peterson out of the top 3. I'm hoping for a guy like Larry Sharpe to get the nomination in 2020.

posted by iclfan2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc 

Wow, LOL.  I saw other parts of this video where he was praising Castro and Ortega.  This is the same guy who also praised Venezuela a few years ago. 

If Bernie or any other socialist is the dem candidate give me Trump, Pence, a cow, a rock, a gold fish, etc... It doesn't matter, I will take anything over a socialist. 

posted by iclfan2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc 

What in the actual fuck?

posted by iclfan2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc 

And people actually give him money to run for POTUS

https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/even-after-sanders-harris-and-others-enter-race-bookies-have-donald-trump-as-massive-2020-favorite/

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/even-after-sanders-harris-and-others-enter-race-bookies-have-donald-trump-as-massive-2020-favorite/

 

 

Well duh, of course he is. Think about it. He most likely will be the R on the ballot in November 2020, while all the Ds have to beat each other and then beat Trump. The book is taking that into consideration. 

Plus, there are more Ds than Rs, so if you are a  book of course you are going to make Trump the favorite as you have no clear favorite yet in the D field. Still, for a sitting President to be only +175 is pretty bad. 

I was looking at the odds and Biden being at +1200 isn't bad to throw a few bones at. 

Now, if there were head to head odds, I wonder how those would play. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I was looking at the odds and Biden being at +1200 isn't bad to throw a few bones at. 

Now, if there were head to head odds, I wonder how those would play. 

I think Biden is the only one who could stand toe to toe with Trump, to be frank. Trump would savage anybody else and they wouldn't have the wherewithal to snap back up where I think Biden *could*.

Biden would give Trump some serious trouble...he’d easily be favored head to head. 

posted by fish82

Biden would give Trump some serious trouble...he’d easily be favored head to head. 

Really?  Biden is a blubbering idiot.  Trump will get Biden all fired up and Biden will crack.

posted by Spock

Really?  Biden is a blubbering idiot.  Trump will get Biden all fired up and Biden will crack.

Lol. But is Biden old enough?

posted by CenterBHSFan

I think Biden is the only one who could stand toe to toe with Trump, to be frank. Trump would savage anybody else and they wouldn't have the wherewithal to snap back up where I think Biden *could*.

There would be attack ads of Biden rubbing all over little girls and the race would be over. Shoot, Booker or Harris May do that to him in the primaries. 

I think Biden is the dem's best chance, but people forget he is a moron when he doesn't have Obama's shadow covering all of his flaws. 

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/even-after-sanders-harris-and-others-enter-race-bookies-have-donald-trump-as-massive-2020-favorite/

 

 

Fail, they even said in the article that generic D vs R(Trump) is in favor of the D. So basically if you add up all the odds for all the Ds it is better odds than Trump. 

You either failed math or just spread lies that you want to agree with. 

posted by Spock

Really?  Biden is a blubbering idiot.  Trump will get Biden all fired up and Biden will crack.

Maybe so, but he'd spank Trump in MI/WI/PA. Trump needs to hold at least one of those to be re-elected. 

The real question is Biden enough to win the primary?  I have an eerie feeling that Bernie will have a large enough base the entire primary while everyone else cannibalizes the vote.  Kinda like Trump with the GOP primary.

Hogan is making rumblings as head of the R Governor Association. He made some interesting comments about the RNC really protecting Trump from a primary. 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/21/larry-hogan-2020-trump-1179635

Kind of adds more smoke to the idea he is running. 

posted by jmog

Fail, they even said in the article that generic D vs R(Trump) is in favor of the D. So basically if you add up all the odds for all the Ds it is better odds than Trump. 

 

You either failed math or just spread lies that you want to agree with. 

Excuse me, I merely posted a link; I did not make any comments.

And to correct your inference, it was a generic D vs a generic R – not Trump –

wherein the D had an edge.

Take care.

The D in that equation will eventually be a socialist hence it wont be voted for.

Why don’t the socialists run as socialists instead of hiding behind the democrat moniker?  Libertarians run as libertarians. 

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

Why don’t the socialists run as socialists instead of hiding behind the democrat moniker?  Libertarians run as libertarians. 

and lifelong Democrats run as Democrats instead of switching sides to be the 45th president.

posted by queencitybuckeye

and lifelong Democrats run as Democrats instead of switching sides to be the 45th president.

Given the significant shift to the left of the political spectrum, an 80’s democrat is easily a republican today.

posted by QuakerOats

 

Given the significant shift to the left of the political spectrum, an 80’s democrat is easily a republican today.

 

Do you have a tissue, there's a couple of drops on your chin.

Listening to Sanders town hall.  Wow he is in la la land.

Please keep in this.  The debates with Trump will be awesome

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-sanders-spokesman-calls-hillary-clinton-team-biggest-a-holes-in-american-politics

Sanders’ team with some exceedingly choice words for Clinton and her team; gotta love it.

Fake news.