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queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 30, 2019 2:02 PM
posted by Spock

A country with 350,000,000 people in it and these are the 15-20 people that we can get on both sides to be president.  Pretty sad state of affairs here in the good ole USA

The bigger problem lies in the absurd size of government. If it did only what the founders intended, we wouldn't need the best and brightest.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Wed, Jan 30, 2019 2:11 PM
posted by Spock

A country with 350,000,000 people in it and these are the 15-20 people that we can get on both sides to be president.  Pretty sad state of affairs here in the good ole USA

With the sort of intense scrutiny that comes from being the leader of a large country in an era where news is 24/7 via an amazing number of sources ranging from TV to print to radio to the Internet, where so much of it is tailored to the viewpoints of certain groups (making it so that no matter what a person does, they'll be lauded as heroes by some places and painted as villains by others), it's basically devolved into a situation where the best and brightest are too smart to want to put up with that shit, leaving things to the narcissists who just want to see their name in the headlines and egomaniacs who are dumb enough to think they are smart enough to ride out the storm and get through it unscathed.

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 30, 2019 3:28 PM

^^^True......you forgot about the main thing......how rich you have to be to be president.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Wed, Jan 30, 2019 4:26 PM
posted by Spock

^^^True......you forgot about the main thing......how rich you have to be to be president.

Yeah, that's true. You need a ton of money to go with the narcissism and ego. All of which are good qualities in their own ways (look at how many athletes get rich in part due to their "I'm the best!" ego causing them to train to the level they can do otherworldly feats), but not necessarily actual leadership qualities.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 30, 2019 5:30 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

The bigger problem lies in the absurd size of government. If it did only what the founders intended, we wouldn't need the best and brightest.

 

Exactly.  Had the federal government not become so ridiculously vast and powerful, the fight for who wants to try and control it would be far less.  We need to eliminate 30% of it tomorrow, and another 20% next year.

 

Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 8:21 AM

I cant wait to see one of the Dems defend killing a 38 week old bably on national TV during a debate.  

 

It would be so easy to destroy one of these Dems in a debate.

BRF

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 10:38 AM

Sherrod Brown might be throwing his hat in the ring. 

fish82

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 10:50 AM

Today's hot take from Blue Check Mark Twitter:

Howard Schultz isn't "self made," since he grew up in government-funded housing projects.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 11:01 AM
posted by fish82

Today's hot take from Blue Check Mark Twitter:

Howard Schultz isn't "self made," since he grew up in government-funded housing projects.

 

 

Did he pay taxes on the imputed value of his free housing?

 

 

 

Oh wait, not only do you get free income and all your expenses paid, you don’t have to pay taxes on any of it.  We’ll just steal the money from the productive labor of others to cover it.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 11:19 AM
posted by fish82

Today's hot take from Blue Check Mark Twitter:

Howard Schultz isn't "self made," since he grew up in government-funded housing projects.

Laughed a lot at this. The media literally hates anyone who isn't a "democrat". Praise AOC for lying about being poor and from the Bronx, and shit on Shultz who was actually poor and LITERALLY got rich himself. And now hate him for having so much money. Do they hate Oprah now too?

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 11:40 AM
posted by iclfan2

Laughed a lot at this. The media literally hates anyone who isn't a "democrat". Praise AOC for lying about being poor and from the Bronx, and shit on Shultz who was actually poor and LITERALLY got rich himself. And now hate him for having so much money. Do they hate Oprah now too?

Yes: https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1090889500815835139

So, people who hate billionaires, I have a question--if Oprah ran for president, would you call her a greedy sociopath for amassing a fortune too?

Everyone on this tweet smugly saying “yes”: Please explain why a self-made black woman is a sociopath b/c she made as much money as the richest white dudes. So intersectionality ends where wealth begins? And where is that? How many millions are acceptably “moral”?

Some of the people replying in this thread are nuts! 

Belly35

Elderly Intellectual

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 11:45 AM
posted by BRF

Sherrod Brown might be throwing his hat in the ring. 

Perfect I will fill it with shit and throw it back at him ....  He is a worthless 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 12:20 PM
posted by Belly35

Perfect I will fill it with shit and throw it back at him ....  He is a worthless 

Class act

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 1:11 PM

He probably will puss out and back out with an apology tour, but the left getting rattled by Howard Schultz is hilarious.  In 2016 it would be a comedy sketch to portray the Starbucks CEO as a non-progressive/non-leftist. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 1:13 PM
posted by like_that

He probably will puss out and back out with an apology tour, but the left getting rattled by Howard Schultz is hilarious.  In 2016 it would be a comedy sketch to portray the Starbucks CEO as a non-progressive/non-leftist. 

The jealousy of rich people is quite a sight to see.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 31, 2019 2:04 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Yes: https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1090889500815835139

So, people who hate billionaires, I have a question--if Oprah ran for president, would you call her a greedy sociopath for amassing a fortune too?

Everyone on this tweet smugly saying “yes”: Please explain why a self-made black woman is a sociopath b/c she made as much money as the richest white dudes. So intersectionality ends where wealth begins? And where is that? How many millions are acceptably “moral”?

Some of the people replying in this thread are nuts! 

 

 

Quite literally

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 9:59 AM

According to the AP, it's official. Cory Booker has launched!

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 10:33 AM

 

Checking in to see if any more Marxists (parading around as democrats) have announced.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:22 PM

Seeing so much crap on twitter about how our economic system is completely immoral because of the existence of billionaires. JFC. "They're hoarding money like Scrooge McDuck!" 

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:29 PM
posted by iclfan2

The jealousy of rich people is quite a sight to see.

I think Dems would probably love it if Tom Steyer ran, as a Democrat.  Then again, that party has gone so all-in with identity politics that a rich "old" white guy is clearly toxic.

But the truth is, the left only bitches about "corporate greed", rich people, etc... when they disagree with the policy.  They LOVED Elon Musk, right up until about the time he had the audacity to suggest maybe we need a new, more objective news media.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:32 PM
posted by justincredible

Seeing so much crap on twitter about how our economic system is completely immoral because of the existence of billionaires. JFC. "They're hoarding money like Scrooge McDuck!" 

I sort of would like to see the left implement all these taxes on the obscenely rich.....so finally the average joe would look at $500B+ deficits and realize "wait a minute, we really can't afford all this unless they come for MY MONEY next!!!!"

It is the most underhanded and deceptive lie out there that the rich just need to pay "their fair share" and then everyone can get all this free stuff.  Everywhere something like that is held up as a model, the average joe pays MUCH HIGHER taxes.  All this stuff loses popular support, by wide margin, when people realize it isn't actually free.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:52 PM
posted by gut

I sort of would like to see the left implement all these taxes on the obscenely rich.....so finally the average joe would look at $500B+ deficits and realize "wait a minute, we really can't afford all this unless they come for MY MONEY next!!!!"

It is the most underhanded and deceptive lie out there that the rich just need to pay "their fair share" and then everyone can get all this free stuff.  Everywhere something like that is held up as a model, the average joe pays MUCH HIGHER taxes.  All this stuff loses popular support, by wide margin, when people realize it isn't actually free.

Yeah, the 90%/70% tax thing might sound good and all if you don't think about it for more than, I don't know, 0.1 seconds, but if I was super-rich and that super-richness was in part due to something I'd created or a service I was providing, something tells me that the minute my taxes exploded upwards, I'd be going pure Pharma-Bro on people, raising my prices to astronomical levels in an "If I'm getting gouged, everyone is!" tactic. Either that or shutting shit down (whoops, loss of jobs; what an UNEXPECTED side effect!) and retiring with my savings (or starting something up again) in a country that's being a bit more fiscally reasonable about things.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:58 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah, the 90%/70% tax thing might sound good and all if you don't think about it for more than, I don't know, 0.1 seconds, but if I was super-rich and that super-richness was in part due to something I'd created or a service I was providing, something tells me that the minute my taxes exploded upwards, I'd be going pure Pharma-Bro on people,

First time I heard/saw this... I laughed! 

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:58 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah, the 90%/70% tax thing might sound good and all if you don't think about it for more than, I don't know, 0.1 seconds, but if I was super-rich and that super-richness was in part due to something I'd created or a service I was providing, something tells me that the minute my taxes exploded upwards, I'd be going pure Pharma-Bro on people, raising my prices to astronomical levels

Maybe.  The super-rich probably would just say "screw it" and start selling their companies.

And either way, I'm sure MANY are already taking steps to offshore and shield their wealth.  If I was worth $1B and Pelosi is coming at me with a 3% annual wealth tax, then I renounce my citizenship.  Good luck getting my money.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Fri, Feb 1, 2019 2:04 PM
posted by justincredible

Seeing so much crap on twitter about how our economic system is completely immoral because of the existence of billionaires. JFC. "They're hoarding money like Scrooge McDuck!" 

*Posting thru iPhone founded/owned by billionares on social media pages owned/founded by billionares*  "Teh BillIonares aRe" 

*Takes loan out from bank to start a business, buy a house, or pay for tuition* "seLfiSh anD JusT hOardiNg"

*Receives biweekly paycheck from employer owned by a billionare* "ALL tEh MoniEs!!"