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Bio-Hazzzzard

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 28, 2019 9:07 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Lol, no it’s not. 

 

Trust me, it really is. 

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 28, 2019 9:45 PM
posted by iclfan2

The left is really mad that Schultz might run.

Yea I saw footage where some guys called him all kinds of stuff and already accused him of reelecting trump

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 28, 2019 10:27 PM
posted by Spock

Yea I saw footage where some guys called him all kinds of stuff and already accused him of reelecting trump

Wow. And you didn’t think to share that stuff here where some dudes said stuff about a guy. That stuff sounds riveting. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 8:09 AM

So Kamala last night said she is for Medicare for all, and wouldn't mind getting rid of all insurance companies... Some old prosecutor videos came out of her also, basically bragging about trying to charge poor people whose kids were truant. I can't imagine the left would be as fine with it if it were a white male.

Elizabeth Warren (worth millions) took to twitter to complain that Dan Snyder bought a yacht, apparently his earned money should be taken from him and given to students to pay off their loans, not sure where she was going with this. 

It is one thing to dislike Trump and believe in more "welfare", but the left is leaning awfully left these days. Is there anyone running as a "moderate"?

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 8:17 AM
posted by iclfan2

It is one thing to dislike Trump and believe in more "welfare", but the left is leaning awfully left these days. Is there anyone running as a "moderate"?

I don't think so. They're going after millenials and the college/Berkeley crowd, so there's no room for it anymore. They know that the boomers are dying off and the Gen X'rs are part of what they call the "exhausted majority". So they're catering to the fresher faces in the hopes that they can grow a voter block to last for some time.

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 8:50 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Bit of an extreme comparison don’t you think?

You're right, it is extreme...but in the opposite way. One killed 17(I think?) and another kills around 700,000 per year.

 

We are killing over 15% of our babies per year through abortion. 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 8:59 AM
posted by jmog

You're right, it is extreme...but in the opposite way. One killed 17(I think?) and another kills around 700,000 per year.

 

We are killing over 15% of our babies per year through abortion. 

You weirdo conservatives and your obsession with abortion is creepy. I’ll bow out of this one. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:09 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

You weirdo conservatives and your obsession with abortion is creepy. I’ll bow out of this one. 

I am not that passionate about this topic (I personally tend to lean that it is fucked up), but I find the opposite of what you stated.  I think the obsession this country has with abortions in general is fucking creepy and weird.  Most other countries are not obsessed with abortion and think its completely odd that people here celebrate it. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:13 AM

Ok, hard reset. 

As this is the 2020 thread, let's see officially who is running. 

For the Ds: 

  • Elizabeth Warren 
  • Kamala Harris 
  • Kirsten Gillibrand 
  • Julian Castro 
  • Pete Buttigieg 
  • John Delaney 
  • Andrew Yang
  • Tulsi Gabbard (announced she is looking into it, but that is it so far) 

Said he is looking into it: Independent Howard Schultz.

Others that are most likely going to run for the Ds: 

  • Cory Booker 
  • Joe Biden 
  • Bernie Sanders

All others are possible runs and includes like 10 others. 

 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:20 AM

Saw on Twitter that Kamala Harris is being dragged for having an affair with a married man and getting plum positions (jobs) because of it. In today's climate people don't really care if you traipsed around with a cheater. For me it is her California ideology that will block me from voting for her. 

From looking at the list of names between dems and reps I am inclined not to vote for anybody. Much like I was in '16, but I voted for Johnson instead. I don't see a Johnson to vote for this time around so I might leave that box alone.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:24 AM

And I don't think I'll be voting for Nikki Haley if she does run:

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1090246267173855232 

In my quest of getting acclimated to normal life, the challenge is real. When you get in an elevator and you wonder why it is taking so long to get to your floor, it helps if you hit a button. #PayAttentionToDetails

 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:24 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Saw on Twitter that Kamala Harris is being dragged for having an affair with a married man and getting plum positions (jobs) because of it. In today's climate people don't really care if you traipsed around with a cheater. For me it is her California ideology that will block me from voting for her. 

From looking at the list of names between dems and reps I am inclined not to vote for anybody. Much like I was in '16, but I voted for Johnson instead. I don't see a Johnson to vote for this time around so I might leave that box alone.

Nobody gives a fuck about this, but both sides pretend they do. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:27 AM

On the R side, I hope, I really hope Hogan or Kasich challenge Trump. 

I say Hogan has a better chance than Kasich as Hogan's record is more down the middle than Kasich's. Hogan also can show he can work with Rs and Ds in a very blue state. Hogan knows how to work with a D legislature.

But, I know the odds are slim for that to actually happen. 

 

 

wkfan

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:29 AM

Kasich is a complete douche.....

Do.Not.Want

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:29 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

You weirdo conservatives and your obsession with abortion is creepy. I’ll bow out of this one. 

Yeah, obsession with killing a baby...and I am not a conservative, I am a libertarian. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:30 AM
posted by like_that

 Most other countries are not obsessed with abortion and think its completely odd that people here celebrate it. 

Yea, I was thinking marches and pink pussy hats celebrating killing the unborn because you don't know how to use birth control was a lot more odd.

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:32 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

You weirdo conservatives and your obsession with abortion is creepy. I’ll bow out of this one. 

Did you not see the people in NY state house CHEERING when they passed a bill allowing abortion right up until birth?

Are you sure the obsession is just on the conservative side?

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:33 AM

Kamala talking as a DA vs. Kamala talking as a Senator.....it's quite the contrast in identity politics and pandering.

And it illustrates, yet again, that this country does not have political leadership, but rather politicians who say & do what voters want to hear to get elected.

Of course, you get someone up there who takes an unpopular positions and explains and justifies it eloquently.....then that person ends-up a policy wonk that no one listens to.  Doesn't help so called "journalists" and bloggers attack those positions, sometimes propped-up with "research" deliberately tailoried to support an agenda.

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:33 AM
posted by like_that

I am not that passionate about this topic (I personally tend to lean that it is fucked up), but I find the opposite of what you stated.  I think the obsession this country has with abortions in general is fucking creepy and weird.  Most other countries are not obsessed with abortion and think its completely odd that people here celebrate it. 

This is a good post/response.  I think abortions are more about partisanship than they are anything else.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:42 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

On the R side, I hope, I really hope Hogan or Kasich challenge Trump. 

I say Hogan has a better chance than Kasich as Hogan's record is more down the middle than Kasich. Hogan also can show he can work with Rs and Ds in a very blue state. Hogan knows how to work with a D legislature.

But, I know the odds are slim for that to actually happen. 

 

 

Both have 0 chance of winning a primary against Trump. I used to like Kasich (don't get me wrong, I would take him over trump 100000000000000X), but he became unhinged and has burned too many bridges by placating to the left. 

Edit:  Trump also stuffed him into a locker during the last primary.  I don't think that would change. 

 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:49 AM
posted by ernest_t_bass

This is a good post/response.  I think abortions are more about partisanship than they are anything else.

Abortion.  Guns.  Climate change.  Lot of bullshit issues that Dems and Repubs take different sides of to seem like they are different.  And neither side has moved the needle on any of those issues.  But great issues to bloviate on without having to know much on the subject.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:50 AM
posted by jmog

Did you not see the people in NY state house CHEERING when they passed a bill allowing abortion right up until birth?

Are you sure the obsession is just on the conservative side?

I never said the other side isn’t creepy and weird. You both are. 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:51 AM
posted by like_that

Both have 0 chance of winning a primary against Trump.

Trump's not getting primaried unless we have a recession.  And assuming the economy is still doing well, most are probably grossly underestimating Trump's chances of re-election.

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 9:56 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

You weirdo conservatives and your obsession with abortion is creepy. I’ll bow out of this one. 

 

posted by SportsAndLady

I never said the other side isn’t creepy and weird. You both are. 


No, but you DID single out conservatives.  

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 29, 2019 10:01 AM

I am surrounded by corporate speak everyday. Can we please nip the use of “primaried” as a verb. Awful.