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queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Tue, Feb 9, 2021 7:28 AM
posted by Devils Advocate

A Trumpie is anyone that supports the Donald so much that they believe that Stop the steal was a viable solution to their  dismay that the orange fucker lost and that they could stop theyb could overtake the capital when congress was in session and that it didn’t matter because it was a cause that they supported

That's a fair description, thanks.

geeblock

Member

Tue, Feb 9, 2021 2:48 PM
posted by Devils Advocate

A Trumpie is anyone that supports the Donald so much that they believe that Stop the steal was a viable solution to their  dismay that the orange fucker lost and that they could stop theyb could overtake the capital when congress was in session and that it didn’t matter because it was a cause that they supported

Notice they couldn’t answer your question. What do you do when your party tries to overthrow the govt and kills 3 cops? “WHAT ABOUT BLM AND ANTIFA!! lol hilarious. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Feb 9, 2021 2:51 PM
posted by geeblock

Notice they couldn’t answer your question. What do you do when your party tries to overthrow the govt and kills 3 cops? “WHAT ABOUT BLM AND ANTIFA!! lol hila


No. No. No. Those crazy people were not representative of the Republican party. I mean it is not like they would stand for any of it and punish any of their members who supported the protests and movement or anything.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Feb 9, 2021 3:21 PM
posted by gut

That describes pretty much the entire Democratic party and their media.

For the last 20+ years, but lol at the pearl clutching (in this thread, the media, etc) now that Republicans suddenly started to do it. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Feb 9, 2021 3:26 PM
posted by like_that

For the last 20+ years, but lol at the pearl clutching (in this thread, the media, etc) now that Republicans suddenly started to do it. 

Did they? Cause I think the jury is still out on that. 

Fletch

Member

Tue, Feb 9, 2021 3:30 PM

The impeachment opening by the Dems was about 85% inaccurate in regards to historical facts.  


Unreal how they misrepresented and flat out lied about history.  


On the other side, the Trump guy is a terrible speaker.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 11:24 AM
posted by geeblock

Notice they couldn’t answer your question. What do you do when your party tries to overthrow the govt and kills 3 cops? “WHAT ABOUT BLM AND ANTIFA!! lol hilarious. 



Who tried to overthrow the government; who killed 3 cops? 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 11:29 AM
posted by QuakerOats


Who tried to overthrow the government; who killed 3 cops? 


Trump supporters? I mean they were yelling in support of Trump as they stormed in.....

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 2:51 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Trump supporters? I mean they were yelling in support of Trump as they stormed in.....

97% of the protestors were peaceful.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 2:59 PM
posted by gut

97% of the protestors were peaceful.

Irrelevant as his supporters actually stormed the capital. 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:10 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Irrelevant as his supporters actually stormed the capital. 


I would say it is pretty releveant based on the logic that was used the entire summer. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:14 PM
posted by like_that

I would say it is pretty releveant based on the logic that was used the entire summer. 

Well if we are using that logic...then yeah that 3% represents the whole of the protests and Trump supporters in general. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:23 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Well if we are using that logic...then yeah that 3% represents the whole of the protests and Trump supporters in general. 

As long as the same set of rules apply to everyone...

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:25 PM
posted by like_that

As long as the same set of rules apply to everyone...

Yeah sure. If that means all BLM supporters are bad then all Trump supporters are bad...if we want to follow that logic. 


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:34 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah sure. If that means all BLM supporters are bad then all Trump supporters are bad...if we want to follow that logic. 


Agreed.  We need to throw Biden supporters in there too for being complicit of burying sexual assault allegations. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:48 PM
posted by like_that

Agreed.  We need to throw Biden supporters in there too for being complicit of burying sexual assault allegations. 

LOL. I see what you did there...


majorspark

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 4:03 PM

At least the Chief Justice had enough sense to stay away from this unconstitutional farce.

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 4:14 PM

I mean, it was a riot not a real coup or insurrection.  Just seems a little hypocritical to use such inflammatory rhetoric, while impeaching Trump for inflammatory rhetoric.

Had that been BLM, capitol police would have been ordered to stand down.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 4:18 PM
posted by majorspark

At least the Chief Justice had enough sense to stay away from this unconstitutional farce.

Technically he couldn't because Trump is not THE current President. 

As for the question though, I think it is a valid legal aspect. If you think the President's term goes from 1/20 to 1/20, 4 years later then of course the President as they go out the door can be held to impeachment by the Congress during those last days.  All other aspects of the Presidency hold true, meaning they are Commander in Chief, can pardon people, can launch nuclear weapons etc. 

The President should be held accountable for any actions that occur during those last few moments. 


That all said. I think this Trump impeachment is a waste as it takes time away from moving forward. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 4:34 PM
posted by gut

I mean, it was a riot not a real coup or insurrection.  Just seems a little hypocritical to use such inflammatory rhetoric, while impeaching Trump for inflammatory rhetoric.

Had that been BLM, capitol police would have been ordered to stand down.

LOL. They were rioting for....to overturn the election results. Come on. 

geeblock

Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 6:52 PM

Their literal only defense at this point is bUt wHat aBouT lAsT sUmMer?

geeblock

Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 6:55 PM

The Republican Party just gets more embarrassing every day. From the guy on tape calling it a staged hoax to Marjorie Taylor Greene. I would be embarrassed to say that’s my party at this point. Also before you go all AOC on me. I’m not a Democrat. 

majorspark

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:02 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Technically he couldn't because Trump is not THE current President. 


By the same technicality Trump no longer holds civil office and the Senate has lost its authority to conduct a trial.  Just like the Chief Justice will not preside over a trial of someone who no longer holds the office of the Presidency.

Say the Senate holds the authority to conduct an impeachment trial of someone who no longer holds civil office.  If that office is the Presidency how does the Chief Justice not fulfill his obligation to preside over it?  This is not some circuit court judge.

Instead what you have is a circus where a rabid partisan juror presides over a show trial.  The office of the President and the impeachment process itself have suffered likely irreparable harm.  Its 3rd world shit.

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:23 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

LOL. They were rioting for....to overturn the election results. Come on. 

I never said they shouldn't be in jail, and probably some for a very long time.  But there's a definite double standard, which was somewhat already on display any time BLM went near a governor/mayor mansion.

Seriously though, 200 mostly disorganized mostly unarmed rioters isn't what I would call a coup attempt.

geeblock

Member

Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:41 PM
posted by gut

I never said they shouldn't be in jail, and probably some for a very long time.  But there's a definite double standard, which was somewhat already on display any time BLM went near a governor/mayor mansion.

Seriously though, 200 mostly disorganized mostly unarmed rioters isn't what I would call a coup attempt.

Maybe you should watch more footage. Check out the 5:00 minute mark