posted by iclfan2

Funny how it’s only an idea or a media construct (which is hilarious bc the media does all they can to not even talk about it) on one side. 

I don't mean that there aren't people there rioting and doing whatever else. I just mean that they're a bunch of lunatics and not part of some sort of entity called "Antifa". My original point on this was to a geeblock post where he was saying "these weren't Antifa, they were anarchists".  That's let me saying "they weren't dorks, they were geeks."

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don't mean that there aren't people there rioting and doing whatever else. I just mean that they're a bunch of lunatics and not part of some sort of entity called "Antifa". My original point on this was to a geeblock post where he was saying "these weren't Antifa, they were anarchists".  That's let me saying "they weren't dorks, they were geeks."

No it was an actual group from what I read and they weren’t antifa. They have their own agenda. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Does it really matter what they're called?  Antifa seems more like a media construct. It's not like there's some central Antifa organization, is there?  So Antifa, anarchists. - what's the difference?

It matters if you look at it from a counter terrorism point of view. The goals and tactics are different. It is like say the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah. Both radical terrorist organizations, but different. Same with right organizations like the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers. Same, but different. 

posted by Fletch

To ignore the connection between the silent media/antifa/the democrats is just a way of making you look stupid.  

They are all in bed together

Does that same logic apply to the QAnon/ Proud Boys/ Oathkeepers group and the Republicans or not? 

I don't think so, nor do I think your statement is accurate. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

It matters if you look at it from a counter terrorism point of view. The goals and tactics are different. It is like say the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah. Both radical terrorist organizations, but different. Same with right organizations like the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers. Same, but different. 

Agreed, same but different. To be honest, never heard of Oathkeepers, may have to look up what those loons believe.

posted by jmog

Agreed, same but different. To be honest, never heard of Oathkeepers, may have to look up what those loons believe.

Oh, it is a fun deep dive. I talked to my sister in law in the Army about them the other day. She mentioned they are all over military's bases and a great recruiter of former soldiers. She also said she has studied them in her insurgency class she took a year ago. They use classic insurgency tactics and language. Same goes to the 3%. They are also some loons. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Does that same logic apply to the QAnon/ Proud Boys/ Oathkeepers group and the Republicans or not? 

I don't think so, nor do I think your statement is accurate. 

No it doesnt.  BLM and ANTIFA are being enabled and allowed to openly break the law, riot, burn down federal buildings and private property.  The media puts them on TV and gives them a platform to spew their hate and violence.

The proud boys and other right wing groups dont have the privilege of being protected by elected officials and the media.

Can you site one time that the "radical" right has taken over a city block for a "summer of love?"

posted by Spock

No it doesnt.  BLM and ANTIFA are being enabled and allowed to openly break the law, riot, burn down federal buildings and private property.  The media puts them on TV and gives them a platform to spew their hate and violence.

The proud boys and other right wing groups dont have the privilege of being protected by elected officials and the media.

Can you site one time that the "radical" right has taken over a city block for a "summer of love?"

Didn't they just try to take the US Capitol this month? 

Great timing. Proud Boys leader turns out to be a rat. 

posted by Automatik

Great timing. Proud Boys leader turns out to be a rat. 

MyPillow guy Mike Lindell’s big lie special on OAN begins with an epic disclaimer pic.twitter.com/3nsoAznOUU

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 5, 2021

Lol some people need to say this before they post 

For the record there are cells of branded antifa and of course we know that there are antifa that are not. I'd say that in general they are so far left that they hate liberals too. Hence you see spray-painted sometimes "liberals get the bullet too".

And while antifa and BLM might have a co-dependent relationship now, at some point they will be the targets of antifa. BLM made a huge goof accepting them and at some point it will bite them in the ass.

posted by CenterBHSFan
BLM made a huge goof accepting them and at some point it will bite them in the ass.

Did they?  Or does Antifa just sort of show up at every "peaceful agitation"?

Going to be interesting to see how the liberals deal with their growing BLM problem.  They don't know they have a problem, yet, but just wait until another there's another bad shoot.  Ginning up the mob usually doesn't end well, for anyone.

posted by gut

Did they?  Or does Antifa just sort of show up at every "peaceful agitation"?

I've never seen any BLM organizers or participants telling them to get the hell away from them. Have you?

No, they've been as snug as bugs in a rug doing their business together. Mutual acceptance.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I've never seen any BLM organizers or participants telling them to get the hell away from them. Have you?

I don't know.  Do you have any clips of BLM sharing the stage and mic with Antifa?  Or photos of them meeting together to strategize?

When their methods are all the same ....who cares.  Both groups are literally terroris geoups

posted by gut
I don't know.  Do you have any clips of BLM sharing the stage and mic with Antifa?  Or photos of them meeting together to strategize?

Nope.

My point was is that they have been accepting each other and doing their shit side by side with no problems. Acceptance. 

It's going to bite one of them in the ass and it won't be antifa

posted by CenterBHSFan

Nope.

I figured as much

posted by gut
I don't know.  Do you have any clips of BLM sharing the stage and mic with Antifa?  Or photos of them meeting together to strategize?

Lack of speaking out against them constitutes acceptance IMO.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Lack of speaking out against them constitutes acceptance IMO.

That describes pretty much the entire Democratic party and their media.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Lack of speaking out against them constitutes acceptance IMO.

Their silence is deafening

I have an interesting question since y’all brought it up. Do y’all feel the same silence for the Trumpies and the Republicans?😇

posted by Devils Advocate

I have an interesting question since y’all brought it up. Do y’all feel the same silence for the Trumpies and the Republicans?😇

About?

posted by Devils Advocate

I have an interesting question since y’all brought it up. Do y’all feel the same silence for the Trumpies and the Republicans?😇

Define "The Trumpies"

A Trumpie is anyone that supports the Donald so much that they believe that Stop the steal was a viable solution to their  dismay that the orange fucker lost and that they could stop theyb could overtake the capital when congress was in session and that it didn’t matter because it was a cause that they supported