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Heretic

Son of the Sun

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 12:50 PM
posted by iclfan2

Idk where they planned it. Probly on social media. Conservatives don’t riot, some cunts did and no one supported it. Come back when ur ass calls out the blm rioters. Or antifa. And quit following Rex Chapman and Tariq Nasheed. 

Also, for Automatik, hilarious that y’all accept a weaponless white women being shot, but complain when violent blacks get shot. 


Lol, cunts who happened to be MAGA conservatives. Try not to go full CC with your rebuttals, dude. Funny how the dude who probably posted more against the BLM/Antifa riots than anyone else goes from 0 to butthurt in .5 seconds when people post against the MAGA Capitol takeover.


Automatik

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 12:55 PM

It's just flat out laziness. People, especially on this site, LOVE to lump everything together and judge based on that.

If you speak out about the Capitol riot you get lumped in with Antifa/BLM sympathizers. 

Protip: not everything is the same as everything else. One opinion on a specific matter does not default reflect a stance on something else. 


"Oh well you didn't care when a police station was entered and burnt down!"  lol wut....who fucking thinks like that? 

geeblock

Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 12:57 PM
posted by iclfan2

So? There were attacks all summer on shit. You care now? A fucking police station got taken over. Free speech is free speech. If you pick and choose the side you like it is no longer free.


Did they plan it on social media? 

Also slow down man. Wasn’t u the one who said conservatives don’t riot and that they would just put their heads down and go to work if trump lost? 🤡 


iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 12:59 PM
posted by Heretic

Lol, cunts who happened to be MAGA conservatives. Try not to go full CC with your rebuttals, dude. Funny how the dude who probably posted more against the BLM/Antifa riots than anyone else goes from 0 to butthurt in .5 seconds when people post against the MAGA Capitol takeover.


I mean I hate the people that took over the capital. It’s embarrassing and gives the left rebuttals to their bullshit. The difference is the media and left loved (still love?) blm and Antifa at first. In case you forgot they related them to WWII soldiers and a guy literally stood in front of a burning building and said it was mostly peaceful.

I’ve been consistent in stating anyone protesting is a giant fuck. Especially supporting people who got killed bc they were fucks. 


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:03 PM
posted by iclfan2

Idk where they planned it. Probly on social media. Conservatives don’t riot, some cunts did and no one supported it. Come back when ur ass calls out the blm rioters. Or antifa. And quit following Rex Chapman and Tariq Nasheed. 

Also, for Automatik, hilarious that y’all accept a weaponless white women being shot, but complain when violent blacks get shot. 


Lol violent blacks. I condemn blm violence a ton. Pay attention. There were over 1000 protests mostly peaceful. Maybe the protests turned violent because the police were weaponeized against its own citizens instead of showing the same restraint they showed people trying to subvert democ


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:04 PM

I love how you can’t say blm without saying antifa 🤡 shows your tru colors 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:05 PM
posted by geeblock

Lol violent blacks. I condemn blm violence a ton. Pay attention. There were over 1000 protests mostly peaceful. Maybe the protests turned violent because the police were weaponeized against its own citizens instead of showing the same restraint they showed people trying to subvert democ


Lol they let those Fucks loot every store that existed. You live in a fantasy world. I knew you’d like that Biden and idiot athletes said “if they were black just imagine”. We don’t have to imagine. We all saw it all summer. Cops did nothing. 


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:07 PM
posted by Heretic

Lol, cunts who happened to be MAGA conservatives. Try not to go full CC with your rebuttals, dude. Funny how the dude who probably posted more against the BLM/Antifa riots than anyone else goes from 0 to butthurt in .5 seconds when people post against the MAGA Capitol takeover.


Yes 


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:07 PM
posted by iclfan2

Lol they let those Fucks loot every store that existed. You live in a fantasy world. I knew you’d like that Biden and idiot athletes said “if they were black just imagine”. We don’t have to imagine. We all saw it all summer. Cops did nothing. 


Lol ok 


Heretic

Son of the Sun

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:12 PM

posted by Automatik

It's just flat out laziness. People, especially on this site, LOVE to lump everything together and judge based on that.

If you speak out about the Capitol riot you get lumped in with Antifa/BLM sympathizers. 

Protip: not everything is the same as everything else. One opinion on a specific matter does not default reflect a stance on something else. 


"Oh well you didn't care when a police station was entered and burnt down!"  lol wut....who fucking thinks like that? 

My favorite is the "how can you speak against this; how much have you spoken out against that?!??!" faux-argument that basically is saying that you can't have an opinion against one side unless you've made enough comments against the other side to meet everyone's approval. Especially since the people who make that argument tend to lean pretty strongly to one side and put WAY more energy into bashing/criticizing the other side than their own.


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:26 PM

I think the points being made here are changing a lot of minds.  It's been a joy to see. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 1:56 PM
posted by like_that

I get this is your attempt to troll me with a mic drop comment about my free market beliefs, but I have been down this path before on this discussion here, and I already said a private business has the right to do whatever they want.  It still doesn't make it right what they are doing.  You can believe both at the same time,  you get that right?  It's no different than any other business doing something that you do not approve of.   I am not shocked this would be your take though.  You have proven time and time again you are nowhere as principled as you pretend to be. 

Also, this isn't even about Trump.  Idgaf about Trump, it's about who else and what else they will be censored and about people actually being ok with this.  The slippery slope is not about what they are doing, the slippery slope is that people like you are celebrating shit like this, while pretending to hold the moral high ground and remaining principled.  


Edit: I stand by my original point.  Anybody who cried about "fascism" the last 4 years, were just projecting.  They never gave a fuck about fascism. 

Oh I get the difference. The problem is you try and use some moral right and wrong on what is the right thing a company can do. How is that determined? You have your right and wrong, but obviously Twitter has its own version. You try and use some moral slippery slope, but your slope only applies to your whatever definition of censorship, which seems overly broad. No one is censoring anyone. You are not using the term correctly as usual. 

I'm not celebrating it at all actually. It is one company doing what they want. If this was a wide decree from the government using their heavy hand to silence critics...I would join you in saying holy shit this is censure. But, as it is one company, you are just crying wolf. 

Also, anyone that used terms like fascism the last four years should not be really taken seriously. 



Spock

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 2:10 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Oh I get the difference. The problem is you try and use some moral right and wrong on what is the right thing a company can do. How is that determined? You have your right and wrong, but obviously Twitter has its own version. You try and use some moral slippery slope, but your slope only applies to your whatever definition of censorship, which seems overly broad. No one is censoring anyone. You are not using the term correctly as usual. 

I'm not celebrating it at all actually. It is one company doing what they want. If this was a wide decree from the government using their heavy hand to silence critics...I would join you in saying holy shit this is censure. But, as it is one company, you are just crying wolf. 

Also, anyone that used terms like fascism the last four years should not be really taken seriously. 



its also a company protected by government regulations.  When you have that, you wave your rights to violate the 1st ammendment as far as I am concerned

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 2:33 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Now, I fully admit that Twitter does seem to apply a double standard on their flagging of posts. But, as a private company, they have every right to do that. Their slogan about being a public free speech place is suspect, but again, they are a private company and can do what they want without interference from the feds to force them to do things. 


Do they have the right to do so but claim they do not? If so, I don't believe that some legislation in that regard would run afoul of the 1st.

Automatik

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 3:01 PM

I don't think it will happen, but the reasoning could be:

Can't run in 2024, loses secret service benefits and 1mil/year travel allowance. 

Spock

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 3:08 PM

I doubt he would take the million......if he did I could see him giving it to charity and he likely already had private security.  


The whole 2024 thing is their angle for sure.  He is going independent and the republicans are scared shitless because they will NEVER win any election ever again.


The Dems are overplaying their hand.  They should want him out there running in 24 for that fact.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 4:45 PM

What do you all think would have happened if a protestor were killed by police at a BLM or Antifa riot?  How many BILLIONS in property damage nationwide do you think the total would be?

Unrelated, how bizarre is it that 3 other people died of natural causes during this - stroke, heart attack and undisclosed.  Obviously this group was a little older and out-of-shape.


And our soon to be new VP had the audacity to pretend the Capitol rioters got special treatment.  This has been going on for years.  The rhetoric from the left is just as divisive, inflammatory and dangerous as what Trump has been doing.  The only difference is a liberal media lends truth to that bullshit.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 4:47 PM
posted by Spock

He is going independent and the republicans are scared shitless because they will NEVER win any election ever again.

The Dems are overplaying their hand.  They should want him out there running in 24 for that fact.

First off, you appear to contradict yourself there.

Second, you seem pretty pleased over the prospect of Trump destroying the Repubs and handing the Dems all 3 branches for years.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 4:51 PM

I think about the only thing worse than Trump undermining our elections would be to impeach a POTUS, current or former, over what amounts to free speech.  Same with the 25th, but at least there might be an argument for that.

It would be a horrible precedent to impeach a POTUS because you don't like what you say.  As bad as the crap he's been saying for 4 years has been, it would be an astoundingly fascist maneuver to impeach him for his speech.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 4:58 PM
posted by gut

And our soon to be new VP had the audacity to pretend the Capitol rioters got special treatment.  This has been going on for years.  The rhetoric from the left is just as divisive, inflammatory and dangerous as what Trump has been doing.  The only difference is a liberal media lends truth to that bullshit.

Biden said it too, they’re idiots. Fuck their fake unity crap. 


gut

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 5:01 PM
posted by iclfan2

Biden said it too, they’re idiots. Fuck their fake unity crap. 


Yep.  The left never passes up a chance to make everything about racism.  It really fires up the useful idiots.

Fletch

Member

Sat, Jan 9, 2021 5:38 PM

I have always been puzzled by the so called “lies” and how bad Trump talks.  It all seems to be hugely subjective by the current media that hates him.

What he says most of the time is complete bait for the base and never once tried to reach elites and the left.



jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 11, 2021 8:07 AM
posted by geeblock

Lol violent blacks. I condemn blm violence a ton. Pay attention. There were over 1000 protests mostly peaceful. Maybe the protests turned violent because the police were weaponeized against its own citizens instead of showing the same restraint they showed people trying to subvert democ


Your second half of this post proves you are biased and not living in reality.