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Holy fuck just agree on a stimulus package already
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posted by friendfromlowry
Holy fuck just agree on a stimulus package already
Not until after the elect
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Why are we scared democrats will pack the court and couldn’t give a fuck less about Republicans blocking the court until it’s their turn and walking back on their reasoning to do so?
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posted by jmog
1. Not voting on a nomination to SCOTUS is perfectly legal. We may not like it but it’s legal.
2. It is the law of the land that there are 9 SCOTUS justices. So by definition “packing the court” is against the law. Of course they just have to make a “new” law and hope it passes constitutionality checks in the courts.
So one is legal the other is not. Hope this helps.
Lol it was rhetorical bud obviously this site leans righter than the rain. It’s not a mystery why democrats are bad and Republicans are good here.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2020 5:32 AM
posted by kizer permanente
Lol it was rhetorical bud obviously this site leans righter than the rain. It’s not a mystery why democrats are bad and Republicans are good here.
"What's worse, they are setting precedent to have the republicans follow suit. Bloody hell."
You just wanted to snark. It's ok, we all do it.
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As far as supreme court justices go, the dems were salty over Garland and paid it back in spades to Kavannaugh. Loosely speaking, that made things even. But that wasn't good enough by a long shot, was it?
You don't have to be right wing to be able to acknowledge what they have done since. Not any of it is good.
Further, I just saw Tulsi Gabbard, yesterday, saying that out of the democrat majority House, only 4 people have signed the bipartisan bill that addresses ballot harvesting.
The dems are a bigger problem right now than the republicans. But go off.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2020 6:23 AM
So I just saw an article about a big Trump sign next to a highway in California. There were complaints about it being a possible fire hazard and the highway state patrol deemed it a traffic hazard because people were slowing down to take pictures and so the state went onto the property and took it down.
I actually think that the traffic hazard reason has more validity to it. I guess I see the situations as having to prioritize what is the most immediate danger, and that makes me lean towards somebody causing a wreck because they wanted a good photo.
On the other hand, I can also see some dipshit burning it (or trying to) and sparking off a brush fire.
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posted by jmog
1. Not voting on a nomination to SCOTUS is perfectly legal. We may not like it but it’s legal.
2. It is the law of the land that there are 9 SCOTUS justices. So by definition “packing the court” is against the law. Of course they just have to make a “new” law and hope it passes constitutionality checks in the courts.
So one is legal the other is not. Hope this helps.
Cite me the passage in the Constitution where it sets the number of justices? It is simply set by Congress. Congress can thus pass a new law and expand it if they want and the courts would have zero reason to strike it down.
Congress could also get creative and start to reform or set new standards on how justices are appointed and confirmed if they wanted to. Mayor Pete had a few interesting ideas, but I've also seen where they can say each President can nominate 1 or 2 every four years.
I think all options are on the table and we could use this time to actually reform our broken nominating process.
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posted by friendfromlowry
Holy fuck just agree on a stimulus package already
The Senate does not want to budge nor do they think they can get it in before the election.
I find that hilarious because now they really care about price tag and budget deficit when for four years only Rand Paul has cared.
I am going to equally find it hilarious when in 2021 Republicans will find their fiscal spines against any D agenda.
I mean it kind of does look like they care more about the Supreme Court seat than the relief efforts. You wonder why the Rs are probably going to lose the Senate....
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posted by ptown_trojans_1
Cite me the passage in the Constitution where it sets the number of justices? It is simply set by Congress. Congress can thus pass a new law and expand it if they want and the courts would have zero reason to strike it down.
Congress could also get creative and start to reform or set new standards on how justices are appointed and confirmed if they wanted to. Mayor Pete had a few interesting ideas, but I've also seen where they can say each President can nominate 1 or 2 every four years.
I think all options are on the table and we could use this time to actually reform our broken nominating process.
What's broken about it other than your side losing?
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posted by queencitybuckeye
What's broken about it other than your side losing?
I mean... I’m not really sure it’s “his side”. The US is not a conservative country. Why should they have conservative Judges? The only reason we have Republicans in office is gerrymandered districts and the electoral college. And poor states who vote against their self interest bc muh fetus.
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posted by kizer permanente
I mean... I’m not really sure it’s “his side”. The US is not a conservative country. Why should they have conservative Judges? The only reason we have Republicans in office is gerrymandered districts and the electoral college. And poor states who vote against their self interest bc muh fetus.
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posted by iclfan2
Yes?
It’s not. In almost any way. And it’s a shame we need the Supreme Court to defend normal people from religious ideologies tbh
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posted by kizer permanente
Yes?
It’s not. In almost any way. And it’s a shame we need the Supreme Court to defend normal people from religious ideologies tbh
Gerrymandering does not effect the presidency or the Senate. Half your paragraph was wrong. Killing babies is such a small part of everything, it’s still crazy the left pushes it. Even if Barrett agrees against it, it just ends up with states right, which is what conservatives care about anyway. Also, you don’t have to be religious to not accept killing babies. (And I barely care about that subject)
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On policy Americans poll left of center. They believe in social blankets. They believe gay people are in fact people. They believe women should have control of their body. There’s been 1 *conservative in the last 28 years to actually win popular vote vs 6 left of center candidates. Which would reflect why Americans poll left of center. To think a majority of Americans are conservative or right of center is intellectually dishonest.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2020 10:03 PM
posted by iclfan2
Gerrymandering does not effect the presidency or the Senate. Half your paragraph was wrong. Killing babies is such a small part of everything, it’s still crazy the left pushes it. Even if Barrett agrees against it, it just ends up with states right, which is what conservatives care about anyway. Also, you don’t have to be religious to not accept killing babies. (And I barely care about that subject)
Nah it’s literally the south’s reason for voting conservative. You’re lying to yourself if it’s not a key component to why people vote how they do.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2020 10:05 PM
posted by iclfan2
Gerrymandering does not effect the presidency or the Senate. Half your paragraph was wrong. Killing babies is such a small part of everything, it’s still crazy the left pushes it. Even if Barrett agrees against it, it just ends up with states right, which is what conservatives care about anyway. Also, you don’t have to be religious to not accept killing babies. (And I barely care about that subject)
Nope... the electoral college effects the presidency and gerrymandering affects the House.
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posted by jmog
This post and the one above it kind of shows you failed your HS government/civics class.
Lol ok. See this is you.. I don’t agree with you so you’re dumb. I have no reason to show I’m right. Just you’re dumb. Why are you so dumb.
You’re like a 7 year old.
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posted by jmog
Congratulations on becoming the antithesis of QO on this board, someone who spews non-sense, just in your case from the left.
So refute me. Oh that’s right. All you do is say everyone is dumb and you’re right.