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Reds Offseason Thread---New Manager, changes etc

  • Classyposter58
    thavoice;1574209 wrote:Votto was on with McCallister the other night. He mentioned how at times an organization must rely on its players to simply get better and progress when asked about the lack of offseason acquisitions.

    Cozart and Frazier need to make more progression. Ludwick needs to stay healthy and put up numbers, or Heisey must do it. Votto needs to put up some better numbers. I believe the catching position as a whole will put up better numbers with DM playing 5-6 days a week. BP is the type of guy I think plays better when he has an attitude so I expect a good year out of him. Question as we all know is how BH will play in CF. I dont thin we can expect Bruce to put up better numbers, maybe just be more consistant.

    He also commented about the new hitting coach. He basically talked how a hitter, especially vets, are pretty much set in what and how they do things and the new hitting coach/philosophy will change the overall hitting just a bit.

    It will be interesting. I dont see the Pirates doing what they did last year and I thin the Cards take a step back. The division will go from 3 postseason teams down to one. Reds win 90 and they win the division
    Good hitting coaches can lessen slumps though. As for your predictions on the Cardinals, there's almost no way barring injuries they win less than 90 games, I mean their rotation is stacked and they may have one of the best 8/9 inning shutdown combos in all of baseball. Add to that a tremendous defensive team with incredibly balanced hitting and that is another 95 win team.

    The Reds problem is the offense, losing Choo what does this team have outside Votto and Bruce? Phillips needs to hit the ball better and more guys will have to get on base, plus Cueto has to stay healthy. I like the staff a lot, especially Cingrani, and think with that bullpen the Reds may be one of the best in baseball when it comes to not allowing runs. Problem is the Nationals should be improved but yes Pittsburgh should take a step back as they lost some key players and overachieved with their record last season. I think Pittsburgh is a few years away from being very good with their batch of upcoming prospects
  • Heretic
    Classyposter58;1577696 wrote:Good hitting coaches can lessen slumps though. As for your predictions on the Cardinals, there's almost no way barring injuries they win less than 90 games, I mean their rotation is stacked and they may have one of the best 8/9 inning shutdown combos in all of baseball. Add to that a tremendous defensive team with incredibly balanced hitting and that is another 95 win team.

    The Reds problem is the offense, losing Choo what does this team have outside Votto and Bruce? Phillips needs to hit the ball better and more guys will have to get on base, plus Cueto has to stay healthy. I like the staff a lot, especially Cingrani, and think with that bullpen the Reds may be one of the best in baseball when it comes to not allowing runs. Problem is the Nationals should be improved but yes Pittsburgh should take a step back as they lost some key players and overachieved with their record last season. I think Pittsburgh is a few years away from being very good with their batch of upcoming prospects
    Only key players the Pirates lost were Byrd the rental and possibly Burnett, depending on what he does. The main worry about them is that some guys in key positions overachieved last year compared to previously (particularly Melancon and Grilli, who while out there together were easily the best 8-9 combo in the division).
  • thavoice
    Heretic;1577698 wrote:Only key players the Pirates lost were Byrd the rental and possibly Burnett, depending on what he does. The main worry about them is that some guys in key positions overachieved last year compared to previously (particularly Melancon and Grilli, who while out there together were easily the best 8-9 combo in the division).
    It very well could be like the reds team of 1999 I think it was who lost in a one game playoff to make the postseason. A number of guys overachieved and then the franchise brought in Griffey to push them over the hump.

    The pirates may put up another good season, who knows, but it is one of those things that I will believe it when I see it.

    The reds offense def needs an upgrade classy. The reds are counting on more from Frazier, Cozart, Meseraco and from LF in Ludwick. It is not too unrealistic to think that at least 2, if not 3, of those those guys/positions put up more than they did last year. 3 of them are young up and comers and the other is back from injury. I think Votto regains some of his pop and in RF, well, we cannot really expect Bruce to do more but maybe more consistant. I think he can go 35-110/120 in a season if he can shorten some of his dry spells just alittle.

    No one will be able to do what Choo did in terms of getting on base last year. In the 120+ years of the resd how many times has their LO guy gotten on base that often?
    Very few, if any.
  • wildcats20
    Ladies and gents, Sam LeCure.

  • Azubuike24
    Honestly...

    The Cardinals will be slightly better
    The Reds and Pirates will be slightly worse

    Now, last year, those teams ran away with the wild card, so "slightly worse" doesn't necessarily mean a playoff miss.

    However, I believe Milwaukee will be significantly better and the Cubs can't get much worse. So, even if these teams are just as good, the competition in-division will be tougher. On the contrary, I think both Atlanta and Washington will roll through the East again. The Mets and Phillies will be worse, or even. The Marlins won't be much better.
  • se-alum
    Making another big splash, the Reds claim a bum pitcher from the Cubs, and DFA Henry Rodriguez. I hope Uncle Walt wasn't actually getting paid this winter.
  • TedSheckler
    You mean THE Henry Rodriguez?
  • se-alum
    Rodriguez was the only infielder in AAA last year, that was capable of being called up and playing. He's probably an AAAA player, but this farm system is so weak with position players, that this doesn't make much sense. I guess they could hope he clears waivers, but I doubt a career .300 hitter and .350 OBP guy in the minors will, and he's only 24.
  • Azubuike24
    se-alum;1579926 wrote:Rodriguez was the only infielder in AAA last year, that was capable of being called up and playing. He's probably an AAAA player, but this farm system is so weak with position players, that this doesn't make much sense. I guess they could hope he clears waivers, but I doubt a career .300 hitter and .350 OBP guy in the minors will, and he's only 24.

    They have signed quite a few position player bums this year who should flood AAA.
  • thavoice
    The reds seem to have set themselves up to not have much depth going forward. Now, some guys will ultimately surprise us and do well down on the farm but the reds could be in for a catostrophic season if a few guys get injured.
  • justincredible
    wildcats20;1578598 wrote:Ladies and gents, Sam LeCure.

    The 'stache abides. Sam is a boss.
  • se-alum
    Latos slipped on the mound yesterday and tore his meniscus. Had surgery this morning.
  • Midstate01
    Luckily minor surgery and will be back in 2 weeks.
  • wildcats20
    According to this, the Reds are nearing an extension with Homer.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/418719/baseball-headlines?r=1
  • justincredible
    wildcats20;1581446 wrote:According to this, the Reds are nearing an extension with Homer.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/418719/baseball-headlines?r=1
  • wildcats20
    6 year, $100 mil.
  • se-alum
    wildcats20;1581464 wrote:6 year, $100 mil.
    I'd be very happy with that.
  • Ironman92
    He's improved every year.

    I need to see 90+ wins, 900+ K, 1150+ inn

    And 4+ playoff wins
  • thavoice
    se-alum;1581477 wrote:I'd be very happy with that.
    So would I if he continues to improve like I think he will.

    About Latos, seems minor, but dont underestimate it being a bad sign for him this season.....He had his elbow cleaned out and now this. Both minor, both easy to come back from, but when things start like this many times it points to a poor season.
  • TedSheckler
    wildcats20;1581464 wrote:6 year, $100 mil.
    Deal is official. 6 years, $105M
  • thavoice
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24448523/report-reds-homer-bailey-agree-to-6-year-105-million-extension


    and apparently BP still isnt talking to the media. I am ok with that.....he seems like a guy who plays better when he has an ax to grind.


    Fair deal for both sides I believe. I look for HB to get even more consistant and would commant much more after this upcoming season.
    In the coming years Cueto, Latos and LEake will be due up. Leake probably wont seek alot even though he is solid, and fully expect the reds to lose Cueto or Latos.
  • Midstate01
    Phillips is probably mad that homer got more money. I'm OK with him being quiet because he's likely to say something stupid again. And I agree with thavoice, he plays good with a chip on his shoulder.
  • se-alum
    thavoice;1582397 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24448523/report-reds-homer-bailey-agree-to-6-year-105-million-extension


    and apparently BP still isnt talking to the media. I am ok with that.....he seems like a guy who plays better when he has an ax to grind.


    Fair deal for both sides I believe. I look for HB to get even more consistant and would commant much more after this upcoming season.
    In the coming years Cueto, Latos and LEake will be due up. Leake probably wont seek alot even though he is solid, and fully expect the reds to lose Cueto or Latos.
    I think they'll let Cueto go, and move Stephenson into his spot.
  • Azubuike24
    The Reds would actually be smart to negotiate with Cueto now if they feel his health issues are behind him. He is as good or even more productive than Latos and Bailey, but due to his multiple and recurring injuries, his stock and FA value isn't as high.
  • Ironman92
    BP is a baby.