2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

• shook_17

  

  falcons are going to lose. hello 24th pick!
• SportsAndLady

  

  So 4th and 24th in the first round. Better make it happen H&H.
  
  Oh and no thanks on Holmes.
• like_that

  

  shook_17;1043200 wrote:falcons are going to lose. hello 24th pick!

  Good deal. Can't help help but play the "what if" game though. At one point in the season it was looking like the Falcons were not going to make it.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1043214 wrote:Good deal. Can't help help but play the "what if" game though. At one point in the season it was looking like the Falcons were not going to make it.

  As I mentioned on the Falcons/Giants game thread, good thing the Dirty Birds sold the farm for Julio Jones, who was supposed to be their "missing piece", so they could go from a #1 seed (last year) to a #5 (this year) and be one and done. Heckert is the man!
• shook_17

  

  ^^ haha i seen that. good shit BR. matt ryan looks so uncomfortable rolling out of the pocket.
• shook_17

  

  and the giants DL is sick
• BR1986FB

  shook_17;1043244 wrote:and the giants DL is sick

  Yep. Get that in Cleveland and people won't necessarily need to worry about bolstering that cornerback position opposite of Haden.
• shook_17

  

  BR1986FB;1043249 wrote:Yep. Get that in Cleveland and people won't necessarily need to worry about bolstering that cornerback position opposite of Haden.

  id love to have a DL like that in cleveland. they are freaks fast, strong and make plays. damn. maybe one day.
• OQB

  

  BR1986FB;1043225 wrote:As I mentioned on the Falcons/Giants game thread, good thing the Dirty Birds sold the farm for Julio Jones, who was supposed to be their "missing piece", so they could go from a #1 seed (last year) to a #5 (this year) and be one and done. Heckert is the man!

  That trade is looking better and better......now we just have to draft an impact player with the 24th pick.
  

  shook_17;1043244 wrote:and the giants DL is sick

  Very jealous.....they are fun to watch.
  

  shook_17;1043250 wrote:id love to have a DL like that in cleveland. they are freaks fast, strong and make plays. damn. maybe one day.

  Don't we all....lol I think we are headed in that direction building our lines through the draft.
• BR1986FB

  If the Donks pull the upset, I believe the pick will be #23.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  BR1986FB;1043249 wrote:Yep. Get that in Cleveland and people won't necessarily need to worry about bolstering that cornerback position opposite of Haden.

  I dont worry about it now bc Brown was decent this season.
• grodt

  

  I've seen 23rd if Denver loses, 22 if they win.
• wes_mantooth

  

  yeah, no need to add a corner. Another pass rusher or good linebacker and all the sudden our corners look like all pros. Pittsburgh has used that formula for years....their corners are lousy.
• shook_17

  

  the pick can range for 21 to 24. hopefully tebow keeps it up! a steelers lose and moving up in the draft yet again, makes a great sunday
• BR1986FB

  shook_17;1043515 wrote:the pick can range for 21 to 24. hopefully tebow keeps it up! a steelers lose and moving up in the draft yet again, makes a great sunday

  I don't think Tebow is a very good QB but when he gets into scrambling situations he's dangerous. That schoolyard shit allows WR's to eventually break free, wide open......that's when he capitalizes. They have been doing it to the Steelers all game.
• shook_17

  

  BR1986FB;1043562 wrote:I don't think Tebow is a very good QB but when he gets into scrambling situations he's dangerous. That schoolyard **** allows WR's to eventually break free, wide open......that's when he capitalizes. They have been doing it to the Steelers all game.

  i agree. id love to see the steelers lose. all the people talking shit all week how it was a cake walk. smh @ them.
• BR1986FB

  Just saw on my feed, Browns have 4 & 22 in the first round.
• IggyPride00

  

  Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmur should take a good long hard look at what is going on in Denver, and the fact they are still playing next week.
  
  John Fox swallowed his pride and totally changed what he was doing to fit what strengths Tebow had, instead of trying to force him to be something he's not because that is what the system he runs mandates, and flexibility is completely not an option.
  
  When they are assessing RGIII for this upcoming draft, I hope to God they can look at the bigger picture and see that the tools he (and quarterbacks like him) bring to the table are far more valuable than the high ground of being able to say you run a pure west coast system regardless of who is on the roster.
  
  Mike should call John Fox and ask him if being alive in the second week of the playoffs is worth having to adjust your system for.
  
  The threat of Tebow running put so much pressure on Pittsburgh defensively, and made that OT throw possible. Cleveland, playing them twice a year, could use a dual threat QB like that as it is a great equalizer.
  
  I hope someone in Berea was watching that game and saw what someone like RGIII could do for us if we worried about putting him in a position to succeed like Denver has done for Tebow.
• BR1986FB

  IggyPride00;1044257 wrote:Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmur should take a good long hard look at what is going on in Denver, and the fact they are still playing next week.
  
  John Fox swallowed his pride and totally changed what he was doing to fit what strengths Tebow had, instead of trying to force him to be something he's not because that is what the system he runs mandates, and flexibility is completely not an option.
  
  When they are assessing RGIII for this upcoming draft, I hope to God they can look at the bigger picture and see that the tools he (and quarterbacks like him) bring to the table are far more valuable than the high ground of being able to say you run a pure west coast system regardless of who is on the roster.
  
  Mike should call John Fox and ask him if being alive in the second week of the playoffs is worth having to adjust your system for.
  
  The threat of Tebow running put so much pressure on Pittsburgh defensively, and made that OT throw possible. Cleveland, playing them twice a year, could use a dual threat QB like that as it is a great equalizer.
  
  I hope someone in Berea was watching that game and saw what someone like RGIII could do for us if we worried about putting him in a position to succeed like Denver has done for Tebow.

  Couldn't agree with this MORE but I think it's wishful thinking. Holmgren can do no wrong in his eyes and the WCO is the perfect system. :rolleyes:
• Mulva

  

  I'm pretty confident that if the Browns bring in a good QB I'll be more confident about our future going forward than I am about Denver's future with Tebow.
  
  I think it's cool that Fox adjusted his system to get them wins this year, but that offense isn't a long term answer.
• BR1986FB

  Mulva;1044279 wrote:I'm pretty confident that if the Browns bring in a good QB I'll be more confident about our future going forward than I am about Denver's future with Tebow.
  
  I think it's cool that Fox adjusted his system to get them wins this year, but that offense isn't a long term answer.

  I don't know that Tebow's their long term solution but his scrambling ability/threat to run loosened up Pittsburgh's defense. A QB like RG3 could present matchup nightmares.
• wes_mantooth

  

  BR1986FB;1044285 wrote:I don't know that Tebow's their long term solution but his scrambling ability/threat to run loosened up Pittsburgh's defense. A QB like RG3 could present matchup nightmares.

  True, lets hold out for braxton miller in a couple years.
• Pick6

  

  IggyPride00;1044257 wrote:Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmur should take a good long hard look at what is going on in Denver, and the fact they are still playing next week.
  
  John Fox swallowed his pride and totally changed what he was doing to fit what strengths Tebow had, instead of trying to force him to be something he's not because that is what the system he runs mandates, and flexibility is completely not an option.
  
  When they are assessing RGIII for this upcoming draft, I hope to God they can look at the bigger picture and see that the tools he (and quarterbacks like him) bring to the table are far more valuable than the high ground of being able to say you run a pure west coast system regardless of who is on the roster.
  
  Mike should call John Fox and ask him if being alive in the second week of the playoffs is worth having to adjust your system for.
  
  The threat of Tebow running put so much pressure on Pittsburgh defensively, and made that OT throw possible. Cleveland, playing them twice a year, could use a dual threat QB like that as it is a great equalizer.
  
  I hope someone in Berea was watching that game and saw what someone like RGIII could do for us if we worried about putting him in a position to succeed like Denver has done for Tebow.

  The Ravens also beat Pittsburgh twice this season without a mobile quarterback. I wouldn't put too much stock into one game. Its not like this is the same Steelers team as recent years past, either.
• ytownfootball

  

  wes_mantooth;1044291 wrote:True, lets hold out for braxton miller in a couple years.

  Of course we could just trade with Oakland for Pryor and get the same result, but I don't know if that would be able to happen with Al gone...
• BR1986FB

  twithersAP Tom Withers
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Talked with # Browns G Eric Steinbach. Looks
  good. Feels great. Ready to go following back surgery that cost him season.