Another Mass Shooting possibly terrorism

• QuakerOats

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1767221 wrote: Of course, every time a mouse farts, you see it immediately in terms of the US political spectrum.

  
  Actually I see it and describe it in terms of safety and defending the homeland.
  
  It is odd what you see; perhaps you carry a bias.
• sleeper

  

  I think I get what Quaker is saying but its much easier just to jump down his throat.
  
  It's not right to racially profile anyone but the neighbor who felt there was suspicious activity decided against reporting it because they didn't want to deal with the PC culture that would label them racist. Perhaps if they were white, the cops would have been called and then event would have been avoided. However since we live in a society that focuses so much on race, its not worth the effort to report minorities for anything if you are white because the backlash for being wrong would be too great.
• Tiernan

  When you see the next door Sand Thugger start growing a beard you know he's been radicalized and it's time to report his shit.
• HitsRus

  

  Today, 05:36 PM#101
  
  I think I get what Quaker is saying but its much easier just to jump down his throat.

  pretty good illustration right here on the OC....plenty of people all too happy to label Quaker a racist for his incorrect thoughts/ opinions.
  A lesser poster might cower at the racist accusations thrown his way... Almost exactly like "the neighbor" who saw something suspicious but was afraid to report it out of fear of being labelled "racist"... An accusation so easy to make, and so hard to disprove.
  
  i have said before that Progressives and those that wield PC as weapon to intimidate people into silence/acceptance are some of the most dangerous people on the planet .
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lol you guys are trying to defend someone for saying that if you see a couple Muslim getting together, you should report them to the fbi.
  
  It's not a good look.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  SportsAndLady;1767231 wrote:Lol you guys are trying to defend someone for saying that if you see a couple Muslim getting together, you should report them to the fbi.
  
  It's not a good look.

  I agree.
  
  See something, say something is one thing. Calling the police on every middle eastern/muslim group you see together is another thing
• majorspark

  

  HighRoller74;1767232 wrote:I agree.

  I think everyone does even Quaker.
  

  HighRoller74;1767232 wrote:See something, say something is one thing. Calling the police on every middle eastern/muslim group you see together is another thing

  From what I understand neighbors did see something and did not say anything. Either because they did not want to racially profile or be perceived as doing so. From what I gather the activity they observed was "strange" but not obviously illegal. Would they think it as strange had white folks been engaging in it who knows.
• sleeper

  

  SportsAndLady;1767231 wrote:Lol you guys are trying to defend someone for saying that if you see a couple Muslim getting together, you should report them to the fbi.
  
  It's not a good look.

  I don't think that muslims getting together should be considered suspicious. I said the neighbor felt something was suspicious but didn't bother reporting it because he didn't want to deal with the PC backlash.
  
  That's all their is to the story. PC is actually killing people but let's just call everyone a racist!
• friendfromlowry

  Did I miss where suspicious activity was suspected? The link QQuakeroats provided in post #77 says:
  

  A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people.

  They could have been doing construction in the backyard for all he knows. Maybe this is just some yahoo coming in after the fact like "Oh yeah I knew something was up but couldn't say it because racism"
• SportsAndLady

  

  friendfromlowry;1767240 wrote:Did I miss where suspicious activity was suspected? The link QQuakeroats provided in post #77 says:
  
  
  
  They could have been doing construction in the backyard for all he knows. Maybe this is just some yahoo coming in after the fact like "Oh yeah I knew something was up but couldn't say it because racism"

  You're so PC bro!!!
• majorspark

  

  friendfromlowry;1767240 wrote:Did I miss where suspicious activity was suspected? The link QQuakeroats provided in post #77 says:

  This is one report I saw. I would not consider it suspicious activity per se. "Strange" maybe but I have engaged in like activities myself.
  
  [video]http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2015/12/03/6957601201500277186/640x360_6957601201500277186.mp4[/video]
  

  friendfromlowry;1767240 wrote:Maybe this is just some yahoo coming in after the fact like "Oh yeah I knew something was up but couldn't say it because racism"

  Likely the case if its coming out of the mouth of just one individual. Less likely if several other neighbors had the same suspicions. Meth labs have been busted under similar "strange" activities reported by neighbors. Its really up to the authorities to separate the wheat from the chaff.
• sleeper

  

  SportsAndLady;1767242 wrote:You're so PC bro!!!

  If you can't follow the line of logic, maybe you should go back to selling CFB tickets at Rutgers.
• SportsAndLady

  

  sleeper;1767250 wrote:If you can't follow the line of logic, maybe you should go back to selling CFB tickets at Rutgers.

  Lol awww. Don't get butthurt because people are correctly calling you a moron, sleeper. But please, tell us more about making a call to the FBI when I see two Muslims talking. It's quite funny.
• Glory Days

  

  isadore;1767130 wrote:gosh a ruddies
  1. so his wife accomplice is from Saudi Arabia. Someone from Saudi Arabia killing a large group of Americans, when has that ever happened.
  2. what are the chances are they going to let in those Syrian refugees in the near future.
  3. repeating myself. what are the chances that Trump takes a big bump in the polls.

  His wife was from Pakistan. The guy had been to Saudi Arabia only twice, for his pilgrimage and to pick up his wife when they got married.
• Glory Days

  

  SportsAndLady;1767231 wrote:Lol you guys are trying to defend someone for saying that if you see a couple Muslim getting together, you should report them to the fbi.
  
  It's not a good look.

  I know its hard for a simpleton like yourself not to understand what suspicious activity looks like, but them being Muslim probably isn't just what this guy noticed. could have been construction going on at night, the guy taking pipes into his house but not doing any plumbing work. random people showing up at the house during all hours of the night. maybe he saw empty ammunition boxes in his neighbors trash or the windows were blacked out. none of that is illegal, all of it is suspicious. hell I barely talk to my neighbors, but it wouldn't be hard to figure out when something is out of the ordinary after living here for a few months.
• j_crazy

  

  Glory Days;1767261 wrote:I know its hard for a simpleton like yourself not to understand what suspicious activity looks like, but them being Muslim probably isn't just what this guy noticed. could have been construction going on at night, the guy taking pipes into his house but not doing any plumbing work. random people showing up at the house during all hours of the night. maybe he saw empty ammunition boxes in his neighbors trash or the windows were blacked out. none of that is illegal, all of it is suspicious. hell I barely talk to my neighbors, but it wouldn't be hard to figure out when something is out of the ordinary after living here for a few months.

  
  totally on board with this train of thought. maybe all of that shit was happening. it should have definitely been reported. that's not what we're talking about here though. Quaker said
  "Until we overcome the Left's racial profiling bullshit, we are doomed.
  
  It is NOT racial profiling, it is CRIMINAL profiling (just like the Israeli's do at their airports etc), and it is the right thing to be doing."
  
  that frame of mind is racist. i totally understand that 18-40 year old men of arab descent have a pretty immaculate record when it comes to terrorist plots but you can't just start reporting, investigating or arresting these people strictly for being arab. what Quaker is saying is equivalent to having a police detail follow a black family around walmart because the manager thinks they're going to steal cigarettes and fried chicken. it's fucking stupid and deep down people know it. they just can't admit it because the chinese made "make america great again" hat they're wearing is leaching chemicals into their brains.
• lhslep134

  

  j_crazy;1767267 wrote:totally on board with this train of thought. maybe all of that shit was happening. it should have definitely been reported. that's not what we're talking about here though.

  
  Exactly. All we know is that there was a single person who said there was suspicious activity. That is nothing like what Glory posted, because if what Glory posted happened, it should have been reported.
  
  
  Instead, all we have is a vague statement to go off of and Quaker is acting like it obviously should have been reported, despite us not having all the facts, because he is clearly a paranoid racist when it comes to men of middle eastern descent.
  
  
  The ONLY way one could possibly read Quaker's posts regarding profiling as anything other than racist is if you're equally paranoid towards middle eastern men.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lol @ glory's post.
  
  Yeah, I'm sure they were just industrially walking pipes into their apartment. And the neighbor's definitely knew their schedules and thought, "hmm, the Malik's don't have any plumbing scheduled--because I would totally know their maintenance schedules--and they're bringing in some pipes. Honey get me the phone, these guys are terrorists what's the number for the FBI?"
  
  Random people showing up at night? Oh? You mean friends? I mean, are we seriously to report neighbor's who have friends who come over at night? LOL
  
  And are we to believe they threw thousands of rounds of ammunition in the fucking trash can on the corner?
  
  Jesus Christ you've gotta be the worst cop on this planet.
• isadore

  gosh a ruddies one person who benefits from the attack
  )Donald Trump is once again alone at the top of the Republican field, according to the latest CNN/ORC Poll, with 36% of registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents behind him, while his nearest competitor trails by 20 points. Three candidates cluster behind Trump in the mid-teens, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 16%, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 14% and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 12%. All other candidates have the support of less than 5% of GOP voters in the race for the Republican Party's nomination for president.
  
  
  

  Carson (down 8 points since October), former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (down 5 points to 3%) and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (down 4 points to 1%) have lost the most ground since the last CNN/ORC poll, conducted in mid-October.
  http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/donald-trump-poll-cnn-orc-national/
• SportsAndLady

  

  isadore;1767274 wrote:gosh a ruddies one person who benefits from the attack
  )Donald Trump is once again alone at the top of the Republican field, according to the latest CNN/ORC Poll, with 36% of registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents behind him, while his nearest competitor trails by 20 points. Three candidates cluster behind Trump in the mid-teens, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 16%, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 14% and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 12%. All other candidates have the support of less than 5% of GOP voters in the race for the Republican Party's nomination for president.
  
  
  

  Carson (down 8 points since October), former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (down 5 points to 3%) and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (down 4 points to 1%) have lost the most ground since the last CNN/ORC poll, conducted in mid-October.
  http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/donald-trump-poll-cnn-orc-national/

  This isn't the republican presidential race thread, dumbass.
• j_crazy

  

  but isadore's on point. these type of things really radicalize the masses and trump stands to benefit from that.
  
  Let's not forget that this country put american citizens of japanese decent into internment camps (one of which is just outside Powell WY) and forced them to build railroads during WW2.
• isadore

  SportsAndLady;1767275 wrote:This isn't the republican presidential race thread, dumbass.

  are you too stupid to realize that this is a thread about the incident and its effects. This is one of the effects. All this reaction to Quaker's comments as being racist or not. What do you think pushes up Trump's numbers you idiot, the fears caused by an incident like this.
• Al Bundy

  j_crazy;1767277 wrote:but isadore's on point.

  Those are words I never thought I would live long enough to ever see.
• QuakerOats

  majorspark;1767246 wrote: Likely the case if its coming out of the mouth of just one individual. Less likely if several other neighbors had the same suspicions. Meth labs have been busted under similar "strange" activities reported by neighbors. Its really up to the authorities to separate the wheat from the chaff.

  
  Thank you; you are tracking well. I never said nor implied that you report any and all Middle Easterns whenever you see one or more; the progressives on here merely took a comment and ran wild with it, again. Rather, if you saw a group of those who do fit the terrorist profile and their presence appeared abnormal for any number of reasons such as they had never been around before, it was not "a holiday", they were hauling materials in an out of a residence, they showed up at odd times during the day (such as when most people would be at work) etc...etc... then yes you probably have a duty to at least inform authorities of what you are seeing and let them make the decisions from there. Yes, most citizens should be able to do some preliminary 'separating the wheat from the chaff', and if they still feel there could be a problem arising, then let the authorities take it up, as Spark says. Essentially this is what I said and meant. And it is good to know there are at least a couple of others agreeing with such a rational approach.
  
  For the last time; it is not about race and religion; it is about criminality and terrorism. And as much as the Left seemingly appears to have wished it were WASP's flying the planes on 9/11; it wasn't!
• lhslep134

  

  QuakerOats;1767280 wrote:I never said nor implied that you report any and all Middle Easterns whenever you see one or more

  Yes you did you racist POS.
  

  QuakerOats;1767150 wrote: A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks.
  
  It is NOT racial profiling, it is CRIMINAL profiling (just like the Israeli's do at their airports etc), and it is the right thing to be doing.

  
  Now shut the fuck up and continue to be a paranoid racist towards middle easterners.