Another Mass Shooting possibly terrorism

• FatHobbit

  

  HitsRus;1767709 wrote: The big problem is that this administration will not admit that we are at war with radical Islam.., to the point of not even saying the word. We need to act like we are at war... Not sidestep it.

  I understand what you are saying, but I'm glad we aren't at war with Islam. I have no interest in fighting the 80% (I made this number up) of Muslims who don't want a fight. I just threw up in my mouth a little defending Obama. I do wish he wouldn't be such a ***** when he talks about who are enemies are and he definitely uses ANY opportunity to push gun control but I am glad he steers away from making this about religion.
• HitsRus

  

  It's not about religion, it is about radical, violent religion... And you need to identify the problem as it is and not worry about offending someone. We are not fighting the I.R.A...we are fighting radical Islamic groups. Instead of worrying about offending the 90% of peaceful Muslims, we need to emphasize that it IS a Muslim problem, and charge them with the responsibility of helping eradicate it. Obama needs to call on peaceful Muslims to report radicals within their community... It is their duty as Americans not to be silent or complicit about this.
• Tiernan

  No such thing as a "peaceful Muslim" when are you dopes gonna finally realize this? The religion promotes the use of violence to advance the ideals of Islam. All Muzzies are secretly pulling for their radicalized bros & sistas to pull off major attacks against the infandels. To paraphrase Custer..."the only good Muzzie is a dead Muzzie"
• lhslep134

  

  fish82;1767632 wrote:Watching CenterBHSFan put ihslep over her knee is pretty amusing.

  
  I was not aware centerBHS losing his/her shit over my posts is putting me over his/her knee, but to each their own I suppose.
• sleeper

  

  Tiernan;1767729 wrote:No such thing as a "peaceful Muslim" when are you dopes gonna finally realize this? The religion promotes the use of violence to advance the ideals of Islam. All Muzzies are secretly pulling for their radicalized bros & sistas to pull off major attacks against the infandels. To paraphrase Custer..."the only good Muzzie is a dead Muzzie"

  If you truly believe this you're an idiot.
• FatHobbit

  

  Tiernan;1767729 wrote:No such thing as a "peaceful Muslim" when are you dopes gonna finally realize this?

  Kinda like there's no such thing as a nice drunk?
• FatHobbit

  

  sleeper;1767751 wrote:If you truly believe this you're an idiot.

  I really don't think he's the only one, which is why I appreciate Obama tip toeing around the Muslim issue. I think it would not be hard to make this all Christians against all Muslims. And I think some of the leadership of each group would LOVE that.
• Tiernan

  sleeper;1767751 wrote:If you truly believe this you're an idiot.

  ...and if you Don't you're a naive fool.
• Automatik

  

  sleeper;1767751 wrote:If you truly believe this you're an idiot.

  And ignorant racist. Not surprised at all.
• Tiernan

  Automatik;1767925 wrote:And ignorant racist. Not surprised at all.

  I love it when white people who can't think for themselves because they have been so indoctrinated with PC bullshit love to call other white people who can see reality..."racist". As if you believe that is the ultimate insult. Well here's the shocker dickwads...ill wear that insult from naive assholes like a badge of honor.
• Glory Days

  

  Heretic;1767490 wrote:Please tell me you were really drunk when you posted it or at least going for Sleeper's usual "hilarious exaggeration to make point" gimmick, because if not, you might have hit a whole new level of stupidity where you apparently learned everything about police work from an Arnie film. I think about anyone here would agree if you saw masked, armed people going in and out of a house, that is suspicious and worthy of reporting to someone in authority. I'd also consider the concept of guys dressed like that running around a neighborhood while in the planning stages utterly laughable. I'd say the main argument on this thread comes down to these points:
  
  1. The common sense theorem that people with actual, working brains who are planning this sort of violent assault aren't going to try to attract any sort of suspicion before the fact and, therefore, will keep any activities on the down-low and likely have a plausible-sounding alibi in case any neighbors would have suspicions. "Oh, we have some family/friends from the east coast vacationing out west, so they're spending a few evenings/nights hanging out with us." or something like that. Only so many virgins to go around; no one is getting their supply if they get busted before leaving their house due to the neighbor seeing their big "BBQ: ISIS MEMBERS ONLY, BYOB" banner flying in their yard.
  
  2. A vaguely-phrased statement from an article that the right wing politard crowd here is twisting to fit their personal agenda. Where a guy is quoted as saying he noticed strange people in the area, but dismissed it since he didn't want to racially profile them. To me, that read: "Some Middle Easternish neighbors are having Middle Eastern strangers over. In this day and age, that's the sort of thing that's hard to ignore, but they don't seem to be doing anything out of the ordinary, so there's no reason I should harass them just based on nationality". Some on this site took it another way, making the leaps of faith necessary to deduce he saw definitely suspicious activity and was afraid to say anything because the PC Police would humiliate him. While it's cute watching people jacking off over tragedy because their little politard brain sees a way to use it to strike a blow against progressives (THE TRUEEEEEE EEEEEEVVVVVIIIIIILLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!) and all, no one still has posted a legit link verifying that their "read between the lines" rendition has any legitimacy.
  
  That is the big problem with these things -- they're good at keeping things on the down-low until it's time. The Syed dude in this event, from looking him up on Google Images, appeared like a regular, normal guy. Go back a ways and the guy that survived the Boston Marathon bombing looked like a normal college student. Both seemed to have normal friends/acquaintances who were shocked to hear they'd been involved in terrorism activities. Now, on the flip side, go to the white terrorist who shot up the Planned Parenthood in Colorado. That guy looks completely deranged from his mug shot, but no one stopped/profiled him before he started shooting.
  
  If people aren't going to be able to stop a guy who looks like that from reaching his objective and starting to gun people down, how are they logically going to stop plots of normal-seeming people who seem to be competent at fitting in with regular society? Seems that might be the sort of thing a person in law enforcement might want to be more concerned about, as opposed to going full retard to "prove" a point that's flawed to begin with.

  yeah I was joking. the point was though that suspicious activity isn't always illegal or overt. even simply having friends over might be odd if for the past 6 months, your neighbor didn't have anyone over.
• friendfromlowry

  Tiernan is pushing his opinion on social matters? Better bust out that Ebola thread:
  http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?45376-Ebola-Now-on-our-shores-what-happens-next&highlight=ebola
• CenterBHSFan

  

  While ISIS does indeed relish killing Christians, they are perfectly happy killing anybody they can get their hands on. So, with that in mind, I don't think it will ever be a strick "Christian vs. ISIS" sort of warfare.
  
  With that in mind, I also agree with the fact that Obama needs to just step up to the plate and label things as they are. And then say it. I think he'll feel better for doing so... However, he's shown by example, up to this very day, that he's quite anxious and not willing to do so. Neither is any leader in the democratic party (Obama, Clinton, Sanders, etc.) willing to do so. They are too invested in gun control and using these types of tragedies as a vehicle to push what they want. After all, never let a tragedy go to waste.
  
  As to the profiling matter, I absolutely do not have a problem with using that as an instrument to protect citizens. After all, policework demands that profiling be used in everyday mundane matters and not just according to skin color. The issue underlying in this is to what extent? I don't know the answer to that. But that is up to the people who have worked in that area of expertise to determine, no everyday schmucks like us (although I'm sure we all can come up with some very definite ideas).
  But the fissures in the current standards are widening everyday and obviously something will need to be adjusted somewhere. That much is obvious.
• Automatik

  

  Tiernan;1767936 wrote:I love it when white people who can't think for themselves because they have been so indoctrinated with PC bullshit love to call other white people who can see reality..."racist". As if you believe that is the ultimate insult. Well here's the shocker dickwads...ill wear that insult from naive assholes like a badge of honor.

  You suggested the solution to ISIS is the eradication of a population of 1.6 billion people. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
• HitsRus

  

  I don't know why we worry about "profiling" non citizens. As an American you have rights under the Constitution( unless of course they don't fit the Progressive agenda )when you go into other countries you are subject to laws/ restrictions of that country. The same should be the case here.
• fish82

  

  lhslep134;1767746 wrote:I was not aware centerBHS losing his/her shit over my posts is putting me over his/her knee, but to each their own I suppose.

  Indeed.
  
  Carry on. :laugh:
• sleeper

  

  CenterBHSFan;1767959 wrote:With that in mind, I also agree with the fact that Obama needs to just step up to the plate and label things as they are. And then say it. I think he'll feel better for doing so...

  Obama gave a public address last night that did essentially this.
• superman

  sleeper;1768006 wrote:Obama gave a public address last night that did essentially this.

  I was shocked when he actually referred to the Fort Hood shooting as terrorism.
• Tiernan

  Automatik;1767962 wrote:... the eradication of a population of 1.6 billion people.

  That's what I'd call a "good start".
• Automatik

  

  Ok Hitler. :laugh:
• QuakerOats

  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-plot-world-domination-revealed-6968444
  
  
  read this
• SportsAndLady

  

  QuakerOats;1768049 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-plot-world-domination-revealed-6968444
  
  
  read this

  You're easily gullible to propaganda.
• QuakerOats

  I know; I should have never listened to that guy who called them a JV team.
• Tiernan

  Automatik;1768012 wrote:Ok Hitler. :laugh:

  Time to clean up the ovens...
• isadore

  HitsRus;1767983 wrote:I don't know why we worry about "profiling" non citizens. As an American you have rights under the Constitution( unless of course they don't fit the Progressive agenda )when you go into other countries you are subject to laws/ restrictions of that country. The same should be the case here.

  gosh a ruddies do you actually know anything about Constitutional Law and precedents,