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  • wildcats20
    Dookies getting everything and then some from the Catamounts of Vermont.
  • Mulva
    Vermont is shooting like 75%. This is unreal.
  • wildcats20
    And this is when Vermont starts missing and the Dookies take over.
  • ts1227
    wildcats20;1542466 wrote:And this is when Vermont starts missing and the Dookies take over.
    If they keep shooting at that clip the refs will just step in
  • wildcats20
    Holy Christ alive.
  • wildcats20
    That wasn't a foul at the end and a shame it was called. Even Dookie Jay Williams agrees.
  • wildcats20
    Regardless, pretty disappointing for Vermont to not even get a shot off. Should have been a catch and shoot from the corner, instead dude tried to make a play towards the rim with 1 second left SMH.
  • Ironman92
    Jesus.....can't wait for the rematch in the tourney. SMH
  • Ironman92
    reclegend22;1542242 wrote:Somewhere, ironman02 is involuntarily bouncing back to life like one of those clay people in that Buffalo Bills ESPN commercial.

    A dominating win for UNC over a top three team and the defending national champ. Did not think that would happen so soon after the events of the past week. What a turnaround.
    A great day and a shitty day for I 02
  • reclegend22
    Sadly, after the East Carolina game last Tuesday, the close game isn't all that surprising. Giving up 90 points in regulation to an America East team is just absurd, though.

    But as potent as they are offensively, the Blue Devils are the complete opposite on defense. Not sure when Coach K instituted the Doug Moe fun-n-gun attack, but there are actually defensive possessions where Duke doesn't even appear to attempt to guard anybody in the paint. A lot of that is the result of having almost zero rim protection -- nobody who can block or alter shots or serve as a second line of defense in case things break down for Duke's guards who are often overextending themselves in the passing lanes. So it often becomes a situation where Parker and Hood are conscious of not wanting rack up cheap fouls early on, and thus apply only a front of pressure. Amile Jefferson is just not the guy Duke needs playing center. He's too thin and not long enough to act as a Brian Zoubek-type enforcer who can deter penetration from small guards and eat up offensive and defensive rebounds.

    Duke is in big trouble. If they get past Alabama on Wednesday, I hate to think what will happen against Arizona while employing this kind of "defense."
  • birddog23
    K would probably never do it but I believe Duke is athletic enough to play 2-3 zone

    They have long, athletic guards that can be effective on the top of zone and on the wings. Put Jefferson or Hairston in the middle, maybe Parker at times. Or Cook can just stop getting completely blown by on the dribble, that'd probably help.
  • reclegend22
    One thing is certain, if this trend keeps up, Duke's guards are going have to start being more judicious about when and how far out to pressure the passing lanes because there is absolutely no help waiting for them if they get beat. Vermont just kept working Duke's guards by moving the ball quickly around the perimeter and then once they found a sliver of an opening they pounced, knowing they had a clear path right to the bucket. It's no wonder Vermont shot almost 70%. They only took about 8 threes. They were getting open bunnies all night.

    Since K is not likely to go zone, I'd definitely support instituting a pack-line defense around the arc just to stop the easy drives to the basket. If that means giving up some more threes, I don't give a shit at this point. This has got to stop.
  • ironman02
    Carolina followed up their win over Louisville by losing on the road to UAB and former Carolina assistant Jerod Haase, 63-59.

    The Heels were 1-12 from three point range, 4-11 from the FT line, and were out-rebounded 52-37. Just unbelievable.

    Until Hairston (probably never) and McDonald (probably mid-season) return, Paige is the only perimeter threat. The post play is wildly inconsistent, and McAdoo continues to regress with each passing game.
  • centralbucksfan
    AS an OSU fan, wondering how good/bad Maryland is? I looked at scores. Have a couple of losses. But haven't seen them play. I would assume they have at the very least, "some" talent. Wont' be an easy game for OSU I am sure.
  • Laley23
    They have Dez wells. I'm sure craft will shut him down and no one else really of note.
  • reclegend22
    Former Michigan three-point specialist Evan Smotrycz is actually Maryland's leading scorer, I believe. So Thad Matta should be very familiar with him, which might help. But yeah, as Laley said, Dez Wells is Maryland's quote unquote stud, but he's been fairly disappointing this season. The kind of guy with the natural ability to blow up every now and then, but is largely inconsistent.
  • reclegend22
    The Atlantic Coast Conference represented last night, going 4-2 against the Big Ten. Six more games are to be played tonight.

    There was a tie last year, following three straight years of Big Ten wins, and obviously the ACC dominated the first 10 years of the event. Syracuse and then Louisville next year should go a long ways to ensure the ACC's superiority is reestablished in this event moving forward.

    Unfortunately, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Purdue and Nebraska (Miami sucks) will probably all win tonight.
  • Laley23
    reclegend22;1547632 wrote:The Atlantic Coast Conference represented last night, going 4-2 against the Big Ten. Six more games are to be played tonight.

    There was a tie last year, following three straight years of Big Ten wins, and obviously the ACC dominated the first 10 years of the event. Syracuse and then Louisville next year should go a long ways to ensure the ACC's superiority is reestablished in this event moving forward.

    Unfortunately, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Purdue and Nebraska (Miami sucks) will probably all win tonight.
    Purdue is poised to finish 12th in the B1G. I dont even know who they are playing, but they will lose.
  • Laley23
    Also, this conference challenge is retarded now. Still great to have a guaranteed "big game" for your team, but as a whole it is completely flawed.

    ACC has about 54 teams and the B1G has 12. I would honestly be shocked it the ACC ever lost it again in the current shape of the conferences. Having to send out Nebraska, Purdue, PSU, Northwestern on a yearly basis ensures 3 losses out of the 4 games...
  • Mulva
    I would lean towards UVA over Wisconsin.
  • Heretic
    Laley23;1547651 wrote:Also, this conference challenge is retarded now. Still great to have a guaranteed "big game" for your team, but as a whole it is completely flawed.

    ACC has about 54 teams and the B1G has 12. I would honestly be shocked it the ACC ever lost it again in the current shape of the conferences. Having to send out Nebraska, Purdue, PSU, Northwestern on a yearly basis ensures 3 losses out of the 4 games...
    Don't worry bro! Rutgers is coming to save the day!

    lol
  • Prescott
    This "challenge" has lost its luster. The ACC chose to become a behemoth conference, which takes most of the middle and bottom end competition away.

    BTW, did any road teams win last night?
  • Heretic
    Prescott;1547720 wrote:This "challenge" has lost its luster. The ACC chose to become a behemoth conference, which takes most of the middle and bottom end competition away.

    BTW, did any road teams win last night?
    Both conferences chose to be behemoths. The Big 10 is on the verge of having 14 teams with Maryland and lolRutgers entering soon (next year, isn't it?).

    My question, since I don't pay attention to these things. When one conference has the numbers edge on the other in challenges like this, how is it determined which teams from the larger conference don't participate?

    To me, fairness would dictate something like (in a 16-team vs. 14-team set-up -- and that is what the two conferences will be in the future isn't it?) the top six and bottom six teams from the larger conference and then 2/4 of the middle-of-the-pack teams. As opposed to a system where, say, the bottom couple teams from a conference always seem to get passed over, so its middle-of-the-pack teams get to pad their win total against the Nebraskas and Rutgers of the B1G world.
  • Mulva
    Heretic;1547730 wrote:Both conferences chose to be behemoths. The Big 10 is on the verge of having 14 teams with Maryland and lolRutgers entering soon (next year, isn't it?).

    My question, since I don't pay attention to these things. When one conference has the numbers edge on the other in challenges like this, how is it determined which teams from the larger conference don't participate?

    To me, fairness would dictate something like (in a 16-team vs. 14-team set-up -- and that is what the two conferences will be in the future isn't it?) the top six and bottom six teams from the larger conference and then 2/4 of the middle-of-the-pack teams. As opposed to a system where, say, the bottom couple teams from a conference always seem to get passed over, so its middle-of-the-pack teams get to pad their win total against the Nebraskas and Rutgers of the B1G world.
    the 2 ACC teams not involved this year are Clemson and va tech, I believe. They finished 11 and 12 in the conference last year.

    edit: and wake. So the bottom 3 from last year.
  • Heretic
    Mulva;1547788 wrote:the 2 ACC teams not involved this year are Clemson and va tech, I believe. They finished 11 and 12 in the conference last year.

    edit: and wake. So the bottom 3 from last year.
    Well, that helps explain why the ACC is up 4-2 right now and, as Rec said, could be expected to regain dominance in this thing.