How Much Trouble Is OSU and Tressel in Now?!

• thedynasty1998

  

  krambman;703221 wrote:Really, because Jim O'Brian was fired over $2,000 that he paid to a former recruit from Serbia that never ended up coming to OSU.

  
  Jim O'Brien isn't Jim Tressel.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;703202 wrote:Is it still IPOTW?

  
  Yes, because Jermil Martin being at Ashland for one week has nothing to do with anything. Is Jermale Martin relevant? Yes. Is him transferring from OSU relevant? Yes. Is where he transferred to relevant? No. Is how long he was there relevant? No.
• FatHobbit

  

  thedynasty1998;703212 wrote:Very interesting that Smith won't be in NYC, however.

  
  That scares the hell out of me.
• thedynasty1998

  

  lhslep134;703233 wrote:Yes, because Jermil Martin being at Ashland for one week has nothing to do with anything. Is Jermale Martin relevant? Yes. Is him transferring from OSU relevant? Yes. Is where he transferred to relevant? No. Is how long he was there relevant? No.

  
  So it was IPOTW only because I mentioned where he transferred to? You really are reaching.
  
  You claimed I was making it up, but have proved I'm not.
  
  How long he was there is relevant, because he was kicked out of school after the administration interviewed him (prior to the NCAA) and learned of his involvement. They determined it was significant enough to get him off campus. And I only mentioned Ashland, because that's where I went and I still have contacts amongst the administration.
• LJ

  

  thedynasty1998;703229 wrote:Jim O'Brien isn't Jim Tressel.

  
  It's a fireable offense in his contract, and honestly, I believe he would be let go. I also honestly would want him let go as well.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;703193 wrote:LOIC has to do with the whole program, I understand that. I don't know exactly what happened, but I'll go through and list things that could potentially be issues:
  
  * A procedure is established for timely communication among various university offices regarding determinations that affect compliance with NCAA rules.
  * Informational and educational programs are established to inform athletics boosters of the limitations on their activities under NCAA rules and of the penalties that can arise if they are responsible for rule violations.
  * An internal monitoring system is in place to ensure compliance with NCAA rules.
  * An external audit of athletics compliance is undertaken at reasonable intervals.
  * The chief executive officer and other senior administrators make clear that they demand compliance with NCAA rules and that they will not tolerate those who deliberately violate the rules or do so through gross negligence.
  
  If Tressel was aware back when Yahoo states, that is point #1.
  
  If the tattoo parlor owner is considered a booster (I don't know if he was), that's #2.
  
  I think #3 and #4 would result from any major violation.
  
  If the NCAA has a problem with not only the tattoos, but also factors in Troy Smith and Clarett, then the last point could be reasonable.

  
  #1 is the only thing broken (if true of course)
  #2: He wasn't a true booster in the sense of the word (openly contributing money to the university), and if he was, I'm sure that he was well versed by OSU on the rules, even if he chose to ignore them. So OSU is fine here
  #3 is completed by the compliance office so they're fine there
  #4 I'm sure the compliance office takes care of as well
  #5 I'm pretty sure OSU has made it aware that they demand compliance.
  
  
  So once again, SHOCKER, you're wrong. If anyone is in trouble here, it would be Tressel, not the program.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;703237 wrote:
  You claimed I was making it up, but have proved I'm not.
  

  
  What have I claimed you're making up?
  
  The only things I've claimed are Martin played at OSU in '09 and that you're an idiot, both of which are truths.
• thedynasty1998

  

  LJ;703238 wrote:It's a fireable offense in his contract, and honestly, I believe he would be let go. I also honestly would want him let go as well.

  Absolutely it's a fireable offense. Just think it would take more than this to fire Tressel.
  

  lhslep134;703245 wrote:What have I claimed you're making up?
  
  The only things I've claimed are Martin played at OSU in '09 and that you're an idiot, both of which are truths.

  Why am I an idiot? I've brought more facts to this discussion than you have.
  

  lhslep134;703239 wrote:#1 is the only thing broken (if true of course)
  #2: He wasn't a true booster in the sense of the word (openly contributing money to the university), and if he was, I'm sure that he was well versed by OSU on the rules, even if he chose to ignore them. So OSU is fine here
  #3 is completed by the compliance office so they're fine there
  #4 I'm sure the compliance office takes care of as well
  #5 I'm pretty sure OSU has made it aware that they demand compliance.
  
  
  So once again, SHOCKER, you're wrong. If anyone is in trouble here, it would be Tressel, not the program.

  If nothing else, you admitted that one of them was broken. So, as long as a booster is informed what is right and wrong, that's all the responsibility of the University? Yea right.
  
  And internal monitoring system in place could have potentially caught this before it got out to hand. Yes, they have something in hand, but if they are not doing their job it's pointless.
  
  You are pretty sure OSU has made it clear they demand compliance? Yea, every school does, but that doesn't mean rules are not broken.
• charliehustle14

  The longer this drags on without a statement from the university, the more worried I become. This sucks. I was hoping this would get some what sorted out prior to me going to class today.
• sportswizuhrd

  thedynasty1998;703214 wrote:BTW, Rovell is the GOAT on Twitter!

  
  Yes, indeed. I never watch him on CNBC and will come across his blog/articles once in a while but he is great on twitter.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Speaking of Twitter:
  

  TPeezy2
  THE Ohio State Buckeyes face and overcome adversity that comes our way! Brings us closer together As a team. And brings us closer 2 GOD

• SportsAndLady

  

  Soooooo.......
• thedynasty1998

  

  SportsAndLady;703261 wrote:Soooooo.......

  
  If you're asking me.... How does this bring them closer to GOD?
• OneBuckeye

  

  It would be a fireable offense but it has to be proven/disproven before hand... don't put the cart infront of the horse. I think everyone is just trying to figure out what the claim is at this point. I don't think they have already convicted Tressel of being guilty. Something will come out today i'm sure but I wouldn't expect anything more than "we are looking into it" "the ncaa already looked into it, nothing to see here." type of statements.
• SportsAndLady

  

  thedynasty1998;703265 wrote:If you're asking me.... How does this bring them closer to GOD?

  
  Lol i'm not asking you...I'm just sitting here saying to myself "soooo what the hell is going to happen?"
  
  I hate all this waiting
• krambman

  

  charliehustle14;703258 wrote:The longer this drags on without a statement from the university, the more worried I become. This sucks. I was hoping this would get some what sorted out prior to me going to class today.

  
  Agreed. This is not a "no news is good news" type of situation.
• OneBuckeye

  

  ^ It is still under 24 hours, I think it hasn't been too long. yet.
• Fab1b

  

  I'm not worried that OSU hasn't addressed this yet. Why should they, yet? There is no evidence presented in that article that came out.
• thedynasty1998

  

  OneBuckeye;703281 wrote:^ It is still under 24 hours, I think it hasn't been too long. yet.

  
  Yea, but in this day when everything is instantaneous, 24 hours is too long. OSU has to make a statement today prior to 5:00 IMO. I would expect their statement to be something very generic, but something has to be said.
  
  I also heard Tressel has a book signing scheduled for tonight, wonder if that is still on?
• thedynasty1998

  

  Fab1b;703282 wrote:I'm not worried that OSU hasn't addressed this yet. Why should they, yet? There is no evidence presented in that article that came out.

  
  That's why you come out right away and say just that.
• Fab1b

  

  Because that is what Yahoo, ESPN, etc...wants, to hear OSU come out and deny it. OSU should be the ones saying nothing until you show me the proof. OSU can only do more harm (if in fact true) to come out and deny, deny, deny. It's best for them to say nothing until the facts are presented to them. IMO!
• thedynasty1998

  

  Fab1b;703299 wrote:Because that is what Yahoo, ESPN, etc...wants, to hear OSU come out and deny it. OSU should be the ones saying nothing until you show me the proof. OSU can only do more harm (if in fact true) to come out and deny, deny, deny. It's best for them to say nothing until the facts are presented to them. IMO!

  
  You are probably correct. As a fan, we want to know. But OSU certainly pays PR guys to advise them on these types of situations, so I'm sure when they do comment it will be done strategically.
• Fab1b

  

  You to are right, as a fan we want to know. But we don't get to I am sure OSU is doing it strategically like you said and that would be best for them.
• OneBuckeye

  

  Fab1b;703299 wrote:Because that is what Yahoo, ESPN, etc...wants, to hear OSU come out and deny it. OSU should be the ones saying nothing until you show me the proof. OSU can only do more harm (if in fact true) to come out and deny, deny, deny. It's best for them to say nothing until the facts are presented to them. IMO!

  The thing is, if they come out and deny deny deny and Yahoo! still has another bullet in the chamber, like emails, phone calls etc then the whole AD is in jeopardy and not just JT. I think that is why they are taking their time, because if there is evidence they don't want to come out right away denying it. They just need to do their due diligence and check it out.
• krambman

  

  OneBuckeye;703307 wrote:The thing is, if they come out and deny deny deny and Yahoo! still has another bullet in the chamber, like emails, phone calls etc then the whole AD is in jeopardy and not just JT. I think that is why they are taking their time, because if there is evidence they don't want to come out right away denying it. They just need to do their due diligence and check it out.

  
  Agreed, but at this point they need to make some kind of statement. Even if it's just to say "We've been informed about the Yahoo! story and we are looking into it, we have no further comment at this time, but we will be scheduling a press conference in the next few days." That would be enough. Complete and total silence doesn't seem good.