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Fab1b

charliehustle14;702926 wrote:Why would he be kidding? OSU gets sent through the ringer annually when it comes to the media. Whether it's any kind of violation (no matter how big or small), losing consecutive national titles, or simply just playing in the Big Ten, OSU takes a beating from the national media. OSU is definitely one of the most magnified programs in college football.

100%!! Ty you are smoking crack!

ytownfootball

When a program is in the top 10 on an annual basis, the microscope is on full fucking power, it goes with the territory. Why? Because the story of how they cheated to get there sells more shit than the feel good story does. They'll look for overpriced Barbie dolls sold at garage sales by players if they think they could get away with it.

charliehustle14

SI picking it up now

Btw, I hate Mandel. He's such a douche. Just tears down whoever the hot topic is at the moment.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/03/07/tressel.yahoo.report/index.html#ixzz1FyljOtMw

Pittman wrote that on his Twitter back in December, why be concerned about it now?

Fidmeister

ytownfootball;702929 wrote:Lack of institutional control suggests numerous incidents over a period of years, this is one "incident" that has no truth, names or proof behind it yet if ever, but you bring up "lack of institutional control"

priceless my man, priceless

This would be repeated violations by five players (one penalty, but they didn't just go to the store once) followed up by lying from the head coach.

I'm not saying the NCAA makes sense. I am saying they'd slam Ohio State with that. Because, after the other things in this decade (Clarett, Troy Smith's cell bill, the litany of secondary violations recruiting Seantrel Henderson, etc..) the NCAA could very well see it as Ohio State not exerting control over its football program. It wouldn't be the penalty that fit the crimes. But it's what they'd attach to it.

Writerbuckeye

ou1980;702865 wrote:S@#$!!!!!

Now its on the front page of Yahoo! with a title "Coach knew of issues"

And you would expect competent journalism from Yahoo why, exactly?

Just because they got one right with Bush, doesn't mean they follow the basic rules of journalism when their story is very weak.

ytownfootball

Sorry fid, still just one (1) incident that has been investigated and ruled on already.

Writerbuckeye

Ty Webb;702925 wrote:USC
Florida
Alabama
LSU
Oregon

All five of those teams have been more scutinized than Ohio State

The whole Clarett thing was more scrutiny by itself than all those schools have seen -- combined -- in the last decade.

The NCAA literally lived at Ohio State for several months.

Please find me ANY evidence that any of those schools endured anything even remotely close to that kind of investigation. Not to mention the NY Times and ESPN spending months each looking into the allegations of wrong doing.

You just threw a bunch of shit out there without one shred of evidence to back it up -- much like the Yahoo story at this point.

Fab1b

Fox Sports Radio now reporting it

Writerbuckeye

Heretic;702917 wrote:That's what bothers me about the article, too. I tend to read Yahoo columnists very often and found those two to both be very good reads (Robinson's a pure CFB guy, while Wetzel is a general sports columnist). I was surprised and disappointed to see their names attached to an allegation article that delivered no "proof" beyond some "a guy told Tressel about this before the school admitted knowledge" story with no name attached. This is a big allegation concerning the head coach of one of the top programs in the country...you just don't say "we heard this" without providing concrete evidence.

Let's compare this story of a single allegation -- with one unnamed source -- to the story Yahoo did regarding the allegations against Reggie Bush. In that story, they had documents and several NAMED sources.

If they're so damn confident of this, then where is the corroboration? Unless they're holding back for some unknown reason, what they've put out there is about as weak an example of "journalism" as you'll see. It looks like a way to get lots of web site hits (and revenue) and not much else.

ytownfootball

Let us also look at the timing of this news shall we? Is it a coincidence that the men's BB team just finished the season on a high note spanking the shit out of Wisconsin on the national stage.....yesterday? Man, they sure ran the shit out of that clip when Wiscy rushed the court that was the Bucks first loss eh?

What? this un-named sourced story couldn't have run months ago? Please...give me a break

dwccrew

Writerbuckeye;702949 wrote:
Ty Webb;702925 wrote:USC
Florida
Alabama
LSU
Oregon

All five of those teams have been more scutinized than Ohio State
The whole Clarett thing was more scrutiny by itself than all those schools have seen -- combined -- in the last decade.

The NCAA literally lived at Ohio State for several months.

Please find me ANY evidence that any of those schools endured anything even remotely close to that kind of investigation. Not to mention the NY Times and ESPN spending months each looking into the allegations of wrong doing.

You just threw a bunch of shit out there without one shred of evidence to back it up -- much like the Yahoo story at this point.

Ownage!

ytownfootball;702954 wrote:Let us also look at the timing of this news shall we? Is it a coincidence that the men's BB team just finished the season on a high note spanking the shit out of Wisconsin on the national stage.....yesterday? Man, they sure ran the shit out of that clip when Wiscy rushed the court that was the Bucks first loss eh?

What? this un-named sourced story couldn't have run months ago? Please...give me a break

I'm not quite that big into the conspiracies against OSU.

I won't be worried about this until there is evidence presented that warrants me to be worried.

Big Gain

THINK ABOUT IT!!!

Who would the anonymous source be?

Who would be able to say they knew in April?

Why would the source be anonymous?.

Who would have anything to gain?

VERY simple, no one other than someone at the tattoo parlor/drug house who is looking for a reduction in sentence.

Even if true why would anyone believe a drug dealer?

Ask yourself the questions, come up with a more logical anonymous source.

ytownfootball

dwccrew;702956 wrote:

I'm not quite that big into the conspiracies against OSU.

I won't be worried about this until there is evidence presented that warrants me to be worried.

I'm not either, but at this point it has as much credence as un-named sources. Funny, spring workouts started today for the football team too...hmmm

SportsAndLady

ytownfootball;702954 wrote:Let us also look at the timing of this news shall we? Is it a coincidence that the men's BB team just finished the season on a high note spanking the shit out of Wisconsin on the national stage.....yesterday? Man, they sure ran the shit out of that clip when Wiscy rushed the court that was the Bucks first loss eh?

ytownfootball;702958 wrote: Funny, spring workouts started today for the football team too...hmmm

Now you're just sounding a bit delusional...

krambman

Here's what I want to know: if this person went to Tressel in April, why would they have gone to Yahoo! Sports and not contact the NCAA when this all broke in December? Clearly they contacted Yahoo!, Yahoo! definitely didn't find them.

OQB

SportsAndLady;702975 wrote:Now you're just sounding a bit delusional...

You sure would know what delusional is...

bases_loaded

krambman;703011 wrote:Here's what I want to know: if this person went to Tressel in April, why would they have gone to Yahoo! Sports and not contact the NCAA when this all broke in December? Clearly they contacted Yahoo!, Yahoo! definitely didn't find them.

Part of some plea in the FBI investigation?

Hamp89

krambman;703011 wrote:Here's what I want to know: if this person went to Tressel in April, why would they have gone to Yahoo! Sports and not contact the NCAA when this all broke in December? Clearly they contacted Yahoo!, Yahoo! definitely didn't find them.

$$$

Fly4Fun

bases_loaded;703034 wrote:Part of some plea in the FBI investigation?

Ah, it all makes sense now

The federal government is pleading down a guy in a tattoo parlor so the NCAA can stick it to Jim Tressel and Ohio State...

It certainly wouldn't be one of the players making a deal... what they did was only wrong to the NCAA, not something the Federal government would worry about.

bases_loaded

Fly4Fun;703038 wrote:Ah, it all makes sense now

The federal government is pleading down a guy in a tattoo parlor so the NCAA can stick it to Jim Tressel and Ohio State...

It certainly wouldn't be one of the players making a deal... what they did was only wrong to the NCAA, not something the Federal government would worry about.

So its not possible that in some sort of statement as part of a plea that tressels name pops up?

OneBuckeye

Even if it's not true I would expect Tressel to retire sooner rather than later. Ohio State runs a clean program, they just have some idiot athletes who get themselves into sticky situations. Unlike Oregon, USC and Auburn who break NCAA rules as a athletic department to gain advantages in recruiting and thus get one on the field. I don't think Tressel would want to put up with this bull shit for very long, especially if this is complete hearsay. I would expect Ohio State and Tressel to deny deny deny whether or not it is fact or fiction. Like the Cam Newton case, you can't get punished for what you can't prove.

Fly4Fun

bases_loaded;703041 wrote:So its not possible that in some sort of statement as part of a plea that tressels name pops up?

In what scenario do you see the owner of the tattoo parlor just dialing up Jimmy T on the phone and saying "Hey man, a bunch of your athletes sold me shit, deal with it!"

What possible reason would he have had to contact Tressel or OSU about this?

Fab4Runner

I think I'll wait for more proof than the word of an anonymous source. Anyone remember that whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Sure, were not in a court of law, but I see no reason to believe this story until there's actual solid proof. Ohio State went through an NCAA investigation and was punished for the rules they broke. To me that's reason enough to stand behind Tressel and the rest of the organization until evidence suggesting otherwise comes out.

OneBuckeye

Fab4Runner;703081 wrote:I think I'll wait for more proof than the word of an anonymous source. Anyone remember that whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Sure, were not in a court of law, but I see no reason to believe this story until there's actual solid proof. Ohio State went through an NCAA investigation and was punished for the rules they broke. To me that's reason enough to stand behind Tressel and the rest of the organization until evidence suggesting otherwise comes out.

+1 This "evidence" should already be known to the NCAA as they already did their investigation and handed out the punishment.

thedynasty1998

I mentioned a couple things on another thread, but I know a couple people who have been involved in this whole tattoogate and have heard some rumblings. First off, I was told that it wasn't over after the suspensions. I don't think that meant Tressel was in trouble, but I've heard there were drugs and cars involved.

A name that no one has probably heard, that was involved was Jermil Martin. The RB who transferred to Ashland University, but was only on campus for about a week. Word is that he was as involved, if not more so, than all the others. Maybe Yahoo spoke to someone like him and offered him $5,000 or whatever to tell them the details. If anyone would know whether or not Tressel was aware, you would imagine it would be someone that was involved first hand.

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