posted by gut

I think I just realized the 30+ year battle over immigration has become so politicized that we're guaranteed nothing will ever be done.  It's now a wedge issue, like abortion and guns.

 

Also, kudos to Rand Paul for planning to vote against Trump's "national emergency" and explaining why it was important to do so.  But really that vote should be 100-0.

This.  It's a shame the Republicans who cried about Obama doing the same thing (deservedly so) are now full of shit. 

^^^Nothing should be 100% one way vote.

posted by Spock

^^^Nothing should be 100% one way vote.

Anything where the sides are the rule of law against a specific interest should always be 100-0.

posted by Spock

^^^Nothing should be 100% one way vote.

Banishment of Sportslady from the OC would likely garner that sort of vote...

posted by thavoice

Banishment of Sportslady from the OC would likely garner that sort of vote...

I'm outraged that your wife let you get back on the internet. It was so peaceful on here without reading your white trash thoughts. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I'm outraged that your wife let you get back on the internet. It was so peaceful on here without reading your white trash thoughts. 

Again, you are soooo easy and predictable.  

HaHaHahahahahah!

Children, to each of your respective corners ...

;)

posted by Spock

^^^Nothing should be 100% one way vote.

When you're upholding the constitution it should.  Maybe ask a civics/history teacher at your school if you can hop in for a few classes.

posted by like_that

When you're upholding the constitution it should.  Maybe ask a civics/history teacher at your school if you can hop in for a few classes.

We sure as heck didnt uphold the constitution for the 8 years of Obama.

posted by Spock

^^^Nothing should be 100% one way vote.

What about Justice Scalia's Senate confirmation?  Was it okay for that to be unanimous?  Because it was.
 

posted by Spock

We sure as heck didnt uphold the constitution for the 8 years of Obama.

So because we didn't then, we shouldn't have to worry about it now either?

posted by Spock

We sure as heck didnt uphold the constitution for the 8 years of Obama.

 

 

and partisan hacks make the lowered bar the new standard for their own party instead of insisting that their side be better.

posted by queencitybuckeye

and partisan hacks make the lowered bar the new standard for their own party instead of insisting that their side be better.

But they'll still CALL their side better, citing the prior bar.

posted by Heretic

To get to the point, re: MS13.

They're a gang that consists of a notable amount of illegals.

In the grand scheme of things, as far as crime in this country goes, they're a drop in the bucket.

Because they have a notable amount of illegals, though, said drop in the bucket gets magnified to "TOTAL CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!" by wall-loving Rs as part of their "appeal to fear!" card. To the degree that I usually have trouble reading stuff that gets posted about them overly seriously because it will get taken to the level that it reminds me of the old urban legend about how IN A TOWN NEAR YOU (maybe even your town!), there are initiate gang members driving around at dusk with no lights on, waiting for someone to flash their lights at them, so they can run them down and kill them to pass their initiation. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if someone, somewhere has tried to bring that one back to make their case.

posted by QuakerOats

 

Oh well in that case let them target and kill cops.  Heck yeah.

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

"But members of the Salvadoran police have been killed by the dozens in each of the past three years, most in attacks that investigators and experts blame on MS-13, an international street gang. At least nine officers were killed in the first month of this year."

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12209317

 

…..and continuing to illegally infiltrate the US and target our officers.   But there is no reason for a wall; in fact open borders are what we need.

Always fun to see my points get proven!

So now people are up in arms because Will Smith is going to play the part of Venus/Serena Williams' dad. He's not dark enough. "Colorism matters".
 

Example: https://twitter.com/shadowandact/status/1102710645747863553

• Clarence Hill Jr @clarencehilljr

Colorism matters..love will Smith but there are other black actors for this role

 

 

My question is, wouldn't a little bit of makeup (which actors wear anyway) satisfy you, if skin color is a priority? Wouldn't a great actor getting the part satisfy you? 

I don't know, I probably won't even see the movie, so I'm asking others who are more into movies.

posted by CenterBHSFan

My question is, wouldn't a little bit of makeup (which actors wear anyway) satisfy you, if skin color is a priority?

Wait a minute.....are you suggesting a black actor put on "blacker face"?!?

posted by CenterBHSFan

So now people are up in arms because Will Smith is going to play the part of Venus/Serena Williams' dad. He's not dark enough. "Colorism matters".
 

Example: https://twitter.com/shadowandact/status/1102710645747863553

My question is, wouldn't a little bit of makeup (which actors wear anyway) satisfy you, if skin color is a priority? Wouldn't a great actor getting the part satisfy you? 

I don't know, I probably won't even see the movie, so I'm asking others who are more into movies.

Might we actually see a case of outrage over "darkface" between those of varying shades of black men?

And Clarence Hill is right.  Colorism matters, and he's exhibiting colorism by insisting that a black man "isn't black enough" to play the role.

posted by gut

My question is, wouldn't a little bit of makeup (which actors wear anyway) satisfy you, if skin color is a priority?

Wait a minute.....are you suggesting a black actor put on "blacker face"?!?

posted by gut

My question is, wouldn't a little bit of makeup (which actors wear anyway) satisfy you, if skin color is a priority?

Wait a minute.....are you suggesting a black actor put on "blacker face"?!?

This is great haha!

I probably could have worded it much better than I did. Oh well.

posted by O-Trap

Might we actually see a case of outrage over "darkface" between those of varying shades of black men?

Which reminds me - wasn't there a bit of a kerfuffle recently over a movie that edited an actor to either be darker or lighter (forget which)?

posted by gut

Which reminds me - wasn't there a bit of a kerfuffle recently over a movie that edited an actor to either be darker or lighter (forget which)?

Probably. I wouldn't be surprised.

posted by O-Trap

Might we actually see a case of outrage over "darkface" between those of varying shades of black men?

And Clarence Hill is right.  Colorism matters, and he's exhibiting colorism by insisting that a black man "isn't black enough" to play the role.

A section of our society has officially lost the plot.  

Are there really shades of true black?

posted by QuakerOats

Are there really shades of true black?

There is, within the black community, a segment that seems to see each other that way.  A 'light-skinned' black man will be seen as inferior by some, just because his skin isn't as dark as others'.

I get that ....shades of brown basically; but black is black.

posted by QuakerOats

 

I get that ....shades of brown basically; but black is black.

Apparently not.